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- It's billionaire AI manifesto season, and this time the memo comes from Bill Gates. Sean and Andrew dig into Gates's August 2026 essay "The turbulent AI era is here. The choices we make now are critical." — a nearly 6,000-word warning that AI will be "either the greatest equalizer ever invented, or the worst source of injustice," and that society has no plan for navigating the transition. Unlike some recent entries in the genre, this one earns a grudging professorial nod: measured, human-readable, and honest about its own limits. The conversation works through Gates's three big risks — employment disruption on a Great Depression scale (with no bounce-back), bad actors wielding one-person-terrorist-organization capabilities, and the psychological effects of AI companions on children growing up in a greenhouse without wind. Then it turns to his most provocative proposal: the "human reserve," a set of roles and functions society deliberately protects from automation, even when machines could do them. Is that a profound act of preservation or a quiet act of surrender? The hosts riff their way from national parks to faculty zoos before landing on the harder questions Gates himself admits he can't answer — who decides what stays human, and by what criteria? Along the way: why agriculture might be AI's most transformed sector, the case for taxing robots, the greenhouse-tree problem of frictionless childhoods, and Andrew's challenge to universities to build institutes for navigating advanced technology transitions before the moment passes. A conversation about what it means when the warnings futurists have sounded for decades finally arrive with a billionaire-sized microphone — and whether talk becomes action.
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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
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Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
----- - Something is hiding in your words — and not even you can see it. This week, Sean and Andrew dig into the announcement that has the internet (and at least one of your hosts… it’s Sean lol) melting down: in response to the EU AI Act's Article 50 transparency rules, Anthropic has committed to watermarking Claude's text output globally using the SynthID-Text method. But this isn't a stamp, a logo, or metadata you can scrub. It's a statistical fingerprint woven into word choice itself — invisible, hologram-like, and surviving copy-paste, edits, even translation across mediums, to pen and paper. Which raises a question the hosts keep circling: when a machine's word choices carry a hidden agenda, is that still your writing? Sean and Andrew argue that as writers every word carries weight — "significant" and "meaningful" are not interchangeable — and that trading precise word choice for detectability changes what writing is. Sean pushes on the deeper why: in a world where AI's background radiation has touched nearly everything since late 2022, what do we actually gain from knowing? From there, the conversation moves through the scarlet letter of AI accusation, the eerie accuracy of new detection tools like Pangram, the difference between AI-remixed and AI-generated, and Andrew's proposed reframe: the question isn't whether someone used AI, but whether they wrote with care. The episode closes with a provocation worthy of Futures Improv: if we can cognitively offload reading and writing entirely, were humans meant to do it forever — or is the written word just one tipping point among many?
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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
----- - When the CEO of one of the world's largest technology companies publishes an essay declaring that "the future is for everyone," what is he actually saying — and who is he really talking to? This week, Sean and Andrew sit down with Mark Zuckerberg's superintelligence manifesto and read it the way futurists read any vision of tomorrow: not as prediction, but as an artifact of how power imagines the future. What they find is a fascinating tension. On one hand, the essay's six big promises — a personal AI agent, creation tools, one-person companies at scale, a tireless tutor in every subject, science that cures disease, and free access for billions — describe things many of us might genuinely want. On the other, every promise arrives wrapped in what futures scholars call a "used future": someone else's vision, handed down so completely that imagining an alternative becomes difficult. Along the way, the conversation winds through the strange rhetorical style of the modern CEO manifesto, the long shadow of enshittification, what Ghost in the Shell and Ex Machina have to teach us about dependency and ownership of the self, and the flip that turned superintelligence from an existential threat into a marketing promise. Underneath it all sits the question the essay never quite asks: who gets to decide what a future "for everyone" looks like — and should that ever be one company's call?
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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
----- - What happens to your voice when a machine can write faster than you can think? This week, Sean and Andrew take on one of the most personal questions in the AI conversation: not whether artificial intelligence will replace us, but whether we'll quietly hand over the parts of ourselves that matter most. The conversation starts with Jaron Lanier's provocative claim that there is no AI — that what we call artificial intelligence is really the collective work of humans wearing a mask — and builds toward a question with real stakes: as these tools cross the chasm into everyday life, what happens to the voices of the generations learning to write alongside them?
At the heart of the episode is an experiment Andrew ran on his own research: he had an AI write an academic paper, then spent days rewriting it in his own voice — and fed both anonymized versions back to the machines to judge. The results were stranger than either host expected, surfacing what may be a distinctly AI idea of "good writing": a mic drop at the end of every paragraph, prose economy over human warmth, crescendo without resolution. From shepherd's tones and cargo cult publications to the embodied, storytelling nature of reading itself, Sean and Andrew explore what machines can't know about communication — and why that matters for anyone who writes, teaches, or thinks for a living.
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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
----- - What happens when a humanoid robot pulls up a chair in a high school classroom (or rather its torso is bolted to the table)? In this episode, Sean and Andrew dig into the story of Sally — an AI-powered humanoid robot being piloted in a school district in western New York State as part of a coding and computer science lab. On paper, it's a familiar edtech pitch: a locally trained assistant, no internet access, supporting teachers rather than replacing them. But the closer the hosts look, the stranger the story gets — starting with the robot's manufacturer, whose corporate family tree traces back to the intimacy doll industry (yes - think sex bots), and whose design choices raise uncomfortable questions about gender, embodiment, and what we signal to students when we choose what a machine-teacher should look like.
From there the conversation opens into bigger territory: Why humanoid robots at all? What does a hyper-realistic face add to learning that a screen, a book, or a well-designed AI tutor can't? Where's the research, the safety evaluation, the pedagogy? And what does it mean to run this experiment on a population of teenagers? Along the way: the psychology of gendered machine voices in fighter jet cockpits, the fate of a hitchhiking robot that met a grim end in America, Asimov's vision of mechanical teachers, and why every school district superintendent should probably watch a little more science fiction before signing a purchase order.
It's a conversation that's funny, occasionally uncomfortable, and ultimately serious about a question that isn't going away: as AI enters the classroom in physical form, who decides what it looks like — and what are our kids learning from that decision?
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Modem Futura is a production of the Future of Being Human initiative at Arizona State University. Be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. To learn more about the Future of Being Human initiative and all of our other projects visit - https://futureofbeinghuman.asu.edu
Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: @ModemFutura
Follow us on Instagram: @ModemFutura
Host Bios:
Sean M. Leahy, PhD - ASU Bio
Sean is an internationally recognized technologist, futurist, and educator innovating humanistic approaches to emerging technology through a Futures Studies approach. He is the Executive Director for the Future of Being Human Initiative and Research Scientist for the School for the Future of Innovation in Society and Senior Global Futures Scholar with the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Futures Laboratory at Arizona State University.
Andrew Maynard, PhD - ASU Bio
Andrew is a scientist, author, thought leader, and Professor of Advanced Technology Transitions in the ASU School for the Future of Innovation in Society. He is the founder of the ASU Future of Being Human initiative, Director of the ASU Risk Innovation Nexus, and was previously Associate Dean in the ASU College of Global Futures.
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Modem Futura is a weekly futures podcast exploring the future of science, technology, and society — your guide to where foresight meets real-world impact. Hosts Sean Leahy and Andrew Maynard — educators, futurists, and public scholars — dive into the breakthroughs and big questions shaping tomorrow: AI ethics, space exploration, climate tech, bio-engineering, digital media, STEM education, and the shifting future of work. In candid, banter-filled conversations with innovators, scholars, and storytellers, they unpack how emerging technologies influence human values, creativity, and culture — and what these trends mean for you today.
Whether you're curious about quantum computing, synthetic biology, or the sociology of robots, Modem Futura connects cutting-edge research with the narratives that drive innovation. If you're looking for a futurist podcast that trades hype for genuine curiosity, join us each week to explore possible, probable, and preferred futures. Follow and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts — and be part of the conversation exploring what it will mean to be human in the future.
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