The Good, The Bad & The Rugby: Australia & New Zealand

The Nations Championship kicks off up north this week, and World Cup winner Mike Tindall joins Jeremy Paul, Kieran Read and Justin Marshall to preview the Wallabies v England at Twickenham.

Tins tells JP his greatest asset is enthusiasm (“realism, not so much”), explains the pressure on Steve Borthwick and England’s yellow-card problem, gives his take on the high-scoring Prem and the driving maul, and asks whether the northern game really needs the Nations Championship. He also shares the story of JP’s season at Gloucester, where the questions to the forwards coach went on so long the session was over before anything physical happened.

Then the boys turn to the All Blacks: South Africa’s tough tour north, Scotland at Murrayfield (and whether they’ll go into their shell again), Wales 70 years without a win, and why Dave Rennie still wasn’t happy after 93 points in two Bledisloe tests.

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00:00 — Intro: Nations Championship standings

01:12 — Wallabies v England: the old midfield and Carter Gordon return

04:42 — Kick accuracy and getting Suaalii into the game

05:54 — How the Wallaby style matches up with England

06:24 — Mike Tindall joins: "Realism, not so much"

08:17 — 71–52: what's happened to defence in the Prem?

10:13 — Tins on the driving maul changes

12:15 — How much pressure is Steve Borthwick under?

13:30 — England's discipline problem

15:10 — Does the north need the Nations Championship?

17:10 — The southern view: putting something on the line

19:50 — Three World Cup winners and a semi-finalist

20:23 — How England fix their yellow-card problem

24:00 — Doddy, Lewis Moody, Ed Slater and Nathan Charles

26:02 — JP at Gloucester: the quiz master

28:38 — Black Eye Gin and the Black Eye Rugby Fund

31:00 — Rugby looks after its own

33:05 — Harvey Norman Effortless Moment: who's ahead of the game?

35:20 — The All Blacks' injury toll

35:50 — Do you start the same side?

36:40 — Scotland at Murrayfield: 2017 and last year's comeback

41:10 — The lone piper and Kieran's debut

42:40 — How Scotland beat the All Blacks

43:20 — Wales: 70 years without a win

44:10 — The All Blacks' Murrayfield streak

45:02 — Rennie wasn't happy

46:55 — Rotate for Wales? Selection and squad culture

47:46 — Outro
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The Bledisloe series is done, and it ended with the All Blacks running riot over the Wallabies in Sydney. Andy Rowe, Kieran Read, Justin Marshall and Jeremy Paul start by paying tribute to young South African lock Hyron Andrews, then look at the rugby world rallying behind Nathan Charles, including the All Blacks’ special haka in the sheds.

JP is back and fired up about the Wallabies’ defence. That kicks off a big debate on structure versus character. The boys also cover Beauden Barrett’s comeback, Fabian Holland and Scott Barrett running the engine room, Peter Lakai’s rise, the loose forward mix, and whether Damian McKenzie is the long-term 10 or 15. They finish with a preview of the Nations Championship as the northern tour approaches.

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Chapters00:00 Intro00:41 Tribute to Hyron Andrews01:43 Nathan Charles and the All Blacks’ gesture in Sydney04:01 JP corners Cheese for the show06:25 Where has JP been?07:42 The Wallabies’ defensive collapse11:09 Structure vs character17:05 The Sydney crowd and a silent haka20:03 Harvey Norman Effortless Moment: Beauden Barrett24:35 Fabian Holland and the forward engine room28:47 Should Scott Barrett be captain again?29:30 Peter Lakai, a star at 2333:46 Loose forward balance and the 6-2 bench36:21 DMac: 10 or 15 at the World Cup?40:22 That 40-metre pass41:24 Nations Championship preview49:38 Wrap
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The All Blacks put 50 on the Wallabies at Eden Park, and Kieran Read called it in the group chat before kick-off. Andy, Justin Marshall and Kieran break down the second-half blowout: the lineout penalty that swung momentum, Damian McKenzie at 10, the Barrett brothers’ dominance, and how the All Blacks owned the air and the 22.

Harry Wilson takes the Harvey Norman Effortless Moment (and the best No. 8 in the world debate kicks off), Jeremy Paul goes missing in action, and the boys get into where the Wallabies went wrong, their midfield crisis heading to Sydney, and why the Bledisloe should be a three-test series.

Plus, All Blacks halfback Cam Roigard joins Andy straight out of the team review on sniping around the ruck, the shorter kicking game, and playing with D-Mac.

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The Good, The Bad & The Rugby Australia & New Zealand – with Andy Rowe, Justin Marshall, Kieran Read and Jeremy Paul.

CHAPTERS00:00 Intro00:38 All Blacks put 50 on the Wallabies02:20 The lineout penalty that swung the game05:05 D-Mac at 10: where does he sit?08:06 Winning the physical battle: the Barrett brothers and Tupou Vaa’i12:17 Shopify13:42 How the All Blacks owned the air and the 2218:11 Changes for Sydney: Fabian Holland and the 5-3 bench24:31 Harvey Norman Effortless Moment: Harry Wilson26:53 Wilson vs Wiese: best No. 8 in the world?28:12 JP goes missing29:59 Marshy on losing the Bledisloe and the three-test series debate32:13 Wallabies’ tactical errors and soft points37:50 Can the Wallabies bounce back?41:50 The Wallabies’ midfield crisis47:33 Cam Roigard joins the show50:00 Sniping around the ruck53:16 The shorter kicking game and the Gilbert ball54:54 Playing with D-Mac56:16 Should the Bledisloe be a three-test series?57:32 Outro
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The Bledisloe Cup heads to Eden Park, and the Wallabies arrive fresh off a big win over the Springboks. Kieran Read and Justin Marshall are joined by Jeremy Paul to preview the clash. JP thinks the Wallabies have their best shot at Eden Park in years.

The episode opens with a tribute to former Wallaby hooker Nathan Charles following his MND diagnosis. The panel talks about his remarkable story, the rugby community rallying behind him, and the search for a cure.

They also cover:

Hunter Paisami's suspension and what it means for the Wallabies midfield.
Ryan Lonergan's kicking game and why he's this week's Harvey Norman Effortless Moment.
The battle of the loose forwards and the All Blacks' lack of turnover ball.
Scott Barrett and Shannon Frizell returning.
Richie Mo'unga at 10 with Ruben Love out.
A 6–2 bench split and the case for Caleb Tangitau
Score predictions.

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Intro
00:45 Nathan Charles and the fight against MND
07:03 Wallabies preparation and Eden Park
08:19 Ikitau injury and the Paisami suspension
12:24 Harvey Norman Effortless Moment: Ryan Lonergan
15:08 Donaldson at 10 and the Wallabies loose forwards
18:22 Wallabies game plan
22:13 JP's prediction
22:55 All Blacks loose forward debate
24:56 The turnover problem
34:38 Scott Barrett and Shannon Frizell return
39:13 Mo'unga in for Love
43:52 Back three and the aerial battle
49:30 Bench balance: 5–3 or 6–2?
54:46 Score predictions and outro

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The Wallabies beat the Springboks 42-38 in Perth, and they finished the game with only 11 men on the field. Andy is joined by Wallaby Jeremy Paul and former All Black Justin Marshall for a quick reaction to one of the strangest Test matches ever played.

JP is thrilled and a bit shaken. Marshy calls Andy out for jumping on the bandwagon. The boys look at Len Ikitau's world-class return at 13, the TMO comms failure that had the referee taking calls on a mobile phone, and four Wallabies in the bin at once. They also cover Rassie's call to bring on eight replacements together, Harry Wilson's captaincy and choice to take the points, and why the Boks couldn't use a four-man advantage to win it.

Marshy gives his common-sense fix for refereeing without a TMO. Plus Fraser McReight's big game, and a look ahead to the Bledisloe Cup opener at Eden Park.

Chapters

00:00 – Intro: the Wallabies' famous 11-man win

00:38 – Marshy calls out Andy's bandwagoning

01:28 – Suaalii on the wing and Len Ikitau's class at 13

03:26 – The elephant in the room: TMO failure and "phone-gate"

04:39 – Four in the bin: were the yellow cards fair?

06:51 – Sympathy for referee Andrea Piardi

09:11 – Free-to-air exposure and a huge sporting weekend

11:04 – Why not just use the touch judges?

12:43 – Perth as the 2027 World Cup opener and Rassie's eight-man bench change

13:40 – Marshy's fix: refereeing without a TMO

15:19 – How the delays affected the game

17:07 – "Were you cooked?" JP on 42-17 becoming 42-38

17:30 – Set piece, the red zone and Harry Wilson taking the points

19:38 – Beating the blitz, and where the Boks went wrong with a four-man advantage

22:14 – Fraser McReight: "a player and a half"

23:19 – Next up: Bledisloe Cup at Eden Park

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