Conversations

Jessica Kirkness with the story of her grandparents, who both grew up profoundly deaf in a hearing world, and how she navigated the space in between sound and silence. (R)
Jessica grew up in the outer suburbs with a big extended family, with her grandparents living right next door.
Her grandparents, Melvyn and Phyllis, were affectionate, kind and wise and Jessica often spent more time after school in their house than her own.
But their house was distinctly different.
The doorbell never rang, the alarm clock never sounded, and the television was on but the audio was off.
Melvyn and Phyllis were profoundly deaf, and they lived in two worlds - among the hearing, and within the deaf community which had its own language and way of doing things.
Jessica grew up in that space between two worlds.
She felt that her grandparents' lives were both extraordinary and ordinary, and that their deafness was so exquisitely misunderstood that every part of her felt summoned to translate.
Jessica has recently written down the story of her life growing up between the two worlds of the hearing and the deaf, as a GODA, or a grandchild of deaf adults.
The House with All the Lights On is published by Allen and Unwin.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Nicola Harrison, Executive Producer was Carmel Rooney.
It explores deafness, living with a disability, profound deafness, hearing loss, AUSLAN, language, sign language, CODA, grandparents, love, family, relationships, granddaughter, grandchildren, intergenerational families, mixed families, technology, deaf accent, lip reading, migrants, hearing world, accessibility, head injuries, meningitis, hospital, acquired disability, deaf gain, communication, music, translation.

Saul Eslake grew up knowing he was adopted. For many years he knew nothing about his biological parents, but when he adopted his own children, he began the search for his birth family.What he discovered in his adoption file revealed a very complicated story, and It took him more than two decades to unravel the mystery.
En route, he discovered a confected newspaper scandal, a story of British pilots at an orgy, and a complicated divorce.
Then years on, he experienced the joy of meeting the siblings he never knew existed.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Jen Leake, the Executive Producer is Nicola Harrison.
It explores adoption, family history, secrecy, orgies, pilots, British scandals, unusual family stories, strange family history, family history, adoption records, secrets, family secrets, divorce, pilots, tabloid press, adopted siblings, birth records, adoption process, adoption file, records, rejection, history, crime, fraud, genealogy, blood relatives, siblings, Tasmania, growing up in the UK, data, mystery.
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Dave Pearson runs Bite Club, a support service for anyone who has survived a shark attack. Dave’s own brush with death came in 2011, when a three-metre-long bull shark almost took his arm. (R)
Dave lived that day, but it’s what happened during his recovery that he didn’t see coming.
Dave Pearson was with his mates on the NSW Mid North Coast back in 2011, and couldn’t get in the water fast enough to try out his brand new surfboard.
He’d caught a few waves when he was slammed by what felt like a freight train.
Under the water, through the bubbles and the shock, Dave saw something huge, brown and grey.
Dave survived that day, but it’s what happened during his recovery that he didn’t see coming.
He founded Bite Club to support survivors through the mental heath challenges following their shark attacks.
Bite Club is a closed Facebook group available to those who have survived an attack by an apex predator.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Alice Moldovan, Executive Producer was Carmel Rooney.
It explores sharks, attacks, bull sharks, near death experience, grief, survival, recovery, water sports, surfing, ocean, water safety, summer in Australia, summer holidays, increasing shark attacks, what to do if you're attacked by a shark.
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In 2007, Vicki McAuley's husband Andrew set off from Tasmania in a kayak, aiming to become the first person to paddle to New Zealand, but a month later authorities received a distress call and then his kayak was found with no sign of Andrew.
Vicki and their little son Finn, were waiting with friends and family for Andrew at Milford Sound when the devastating news came through.Further information 
Vicki McAuley's book Solo was published in 2010.
The documentary about Andrew's attempt is also called Solo, directed by Jennifer Peedom and released in 2008.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Jen Leake, the Executive Producer is Nicola Harrison.
It explores love, mountaineering, sea kayaking, solo sea kayaking, extreme adventure, psychology, adventurer, the Tasman Sea, gale force storms, ocean currents, waves, swells, Fortescue Bay, rescue, kayak design, hypothermia, family, grief, yoga, writing.
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Debra Richardson joined the police at age 18 in the 1980s, working undercover as a prostitute and surviving the Russell Street bombing. Years later, she met her foster son, Yuri, who had also survived disaster.
Deb and her family met Yuri after they agreed to care for one of the many children brought to Australia for short-term stays following the Chernobyl disaster in Ukraine.
Decades later, a journey to help that foster son, now living in a war zone, ended up helping Deb in ways she never expected.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Jen Leake and the Executive Producer was Nicola Harrison.
It explores women in the police force, police academy training, sexism, undercover police work, the Russell Street Bombing, car bomb, PTSD, Chernobyl disaster, Chernobyl children, John Farnham, Russian mafia, Project Yuri, charity, war in Ukraine, aid work, family, foster care.
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