Conversations

After a painful divorce, Charlotte Ree began to piece her broken heart back together by cooking for her neighbours (R)
Charlotte Ree grew up in a family full of love, but with its own particular challenges. 
Her mum struggled with mental illness, which meant Charlotte grew up very quickly.
Charlotte met the man who would become her husband when she was 19. Within a few years, they married, but money became a major source of pain in the relationship.
One night on a boat, Charlotte realised her marriage was over.
Divorce was a devastating turning point for her, and at the same time she found herself living alone in Sydney's lockdown.
Eventually Charlotte decided to find a unique way out of her heartbreak; by cooking for her neighbours.  
Some time later, she also found the courage to look for love again.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Nicola Harrison, the Executive Producer was Carmel Rooney.
It explores family history, mental illness, relationships, looking for love, love stories, modern love, divorce, recovering after divorce, cooking, baking, unusual family stories, strange family history, family history, lockdown, Covid lockdown, loneliness, solitude, eating, starvation, nourishment, cooking for one, cooking neighbours, baking cakes, cakes, cake batter, broken heart, mending a broken heart, food as love, finding love after divorce, finding love again, healing from a broken heart, men and women, dating apps, life on the dating apps, strange stories from dating apps, recovery from heartbreak, cooking as a cure for pain, cooking for love, cooking for your life, cooking, mothers, complicated mothers, complicated mother daughter relationships, unconditional love, acceptance, accepting your parents.
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Philosopher and writer Eamon Evans on humanity's relentless and impossible pursuit of happiness through materialism, social media and self help, and why the kindest and best people have been 'crushed by life' a couple of times.
Eamon started to think more deeply about happiness and contentment in his 20s, after a bout of serious depression.
He realised that trying to be happy all the time was paradoxically making him miserable, and says that's true for most of us in this modern world.
Eamon began to trace the history of human's infatuation with being happy.
What he found was that the story of humanity was tied up with other pursuits like survival, honour, virtue and discipline until very recently.
Only in the 20th century did people start wanting to stop to smell the roses all the time, but Eamon says a permanent state of happiness impossible and emotionally counterproductive.
In fact, our obsession with being happy is actually making us sad, and on top of that, it's making us sad about the fact that we're sad—a concept called 'meta-unhappiness'.
Eamon acknowledges misery can sometimes be pathological, and it's important that lifesaving progress has been made on creating spaces here people can speak out and seek help.
But in terms of daily, natural feelings of struggle, he says it's better to accept these as a normal part of human life, and look upon seasons of misery as miracles that build character, make us kinder, and more interesting.
The Importance of Being Miserable is published by Simon and Schuster.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Meggie Morris, Executive Producer was Nicola Harrison.
It explores advertising, marketing, smart phones, addiction, dopamine, serotonin, Gen Z, glimmers of hope, gratitude, being grateful, how to be grateful, gratitude journal, Buddhism, enlightenment, Mad Men, advertising, capitalism, mental health, mental wellbeing, self help books, religion, industrial revolution, greed, property, wants versus needs.
To binge even more great episodes of the Conversations podcast with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski go the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

Judy grew up on a farm in north-east Victoria.
When she was seventeen, a family tragedy saw her thrust into life as a farmer for the first time.
Being a young farmer led her into local politics, and eventually into a burgeoning friendship with a lanky, much-loved local politician named Tim Fischer.
On their first date, Tim took Judy to the Tocumwal Debutant Ball, and it was a disaster.
But despite the age difference, the two of them eventually fell in love and started a family.
When their first son, Harrison, was diagnosed with autism Judy became an advocate for people on the autism spectrum.
The family is still grieving Tim, whom they lost to leukaemia in 2019.
But Judy is now working to make her beloved family farm, ‘Grossotto’, a sanctuary for vulnerable adults.
Learn more about Care Farms.
Listen to Tim Fischer in conversation with Richard Fidler.
Watch the 2018 Australian Story about the Fischer Family.
This episode was produced by Nicola Harrison, Executive Producer was Carmel Rooney.
It explores love, marriage, relationships, Auspol, local politics, country Australia, regional Australia, rural communities, motherhood, age gap relationships, grief, death, grieving a spouse, neurodivergence, autism spectrum disorder, raising children with autism.
To binge even more great episodes of the Conversations podcast with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski go the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

The world's leading eucalyptus expert, Professor Steve Hopper, on what science and culture say about these spectacular trees, and how Noongar elders in WA's South West led his 'second education' in botany.
Australia is one of the richest places on earth when it comes to botanical biodiversity.
Tens of thousands of species of trees and flowers have developed over millions of years of isolation.
But perhaps the most iconic of all native flora is the humble eucalyptus.
From Queensland's ancient rainforests and the alpine region of New South Wales, to the wilds of Tasmania and the granite outcrops of coastal Western Australia, gum trees are synonymous with the Australian landscape.
There are 900 different species of eucalyptus, from giant gums close to 100 metres tall, to tiny wee mallee trees the same height as a kindergartener. 
Steve Hopper has recorded more than 100 of those species, and believes there are still more waiting to be found.
This episode of Conversations was produced by Meggie Morris, Executive Producer is Nicola Harrison.
It explores botany, climate change, extinction rates, gum trees, eucalypts, California wild fires, biodiversity hotspot, Australia's native flora, koalas, mallee, jarrah, karri, ancient trees, dinosaurs, Australiana, Western Australia, Great Southern Blue Mountains, Tasmania, South West of WA, Albany, Stirling Range, Snowy Mountains, red gum, stringy gum, Australian wildflowers, Kew Gardens, London, the United Kingdom, Joseph Banks, environmental exploitation, Indigenous knowledge, Indigenous healing, eucalyptus oil medicinal properties, dreaming, conservation, gardening.
To binge even more great episodes of the Conversations podcast with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski go the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.

UK writer Zadie Smith became a world-wide sensation with the publication of her first novel White Teeth when she was 24. Now aged 50, she's bringing her trademark intelligence and wit to the subject of midlife.
Her latest work is Dead and Alive, a new book of essays, where she writes about black British history, paintings, politics, our online lives and getting older.
She also talks about up growing in North West London and where she's returned to live with her own family.
Zadie will be in Australia next month as part of the All About Women festival at the Sydney Opera House on March 8th and at The Wheeler Centre in Melbourne on March 10th.
Further Information
All About Women at Sydney Opera HouseZadie Smith at The Wheeler Centre
This episode explores growing up in North West London, immigrants, black British history, the internet, smart phones, social media, the technology of the book, mid life, being 50, free university, Cambridge, diversity, academia, tap dancing, painting, politics, being a writer, non-fiction, young novelists, find success at young age.
To binge even more great episodes of the Conversations podcast with Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski go the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts. There you’ll find hundreds of the best thought-provoking interviews with authors, writers, artists, politicians, psychologists, musicians, and celebrities.