Mamamia Out Loud

Outside a Massachusetts courtroom, women have travelled across the country to hold signs that read "she needed help". Jessie Stephens unpacks forensic fandom — the internet's habit of working a real trial as if it’s a season of Lost — and why those signs might not be about Lindsay Clancy at all.
Plus, Holly Wainwright is back from holidaying in Harry and Meghan’s new home and has a surprising (for her) new take.
Also, Married at First Sight is reportedly going sober, drastically cutting its alcohol rules after a series of scandals. Jessie has thoughts about whether a show built on a hand grenade survives without one.
And, Olivia Rodrigo is our crush and pin-up in a week when we need heroes, and why men are cutting off their eyelashes for a really dumb reason.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
Listen: The Blindside Divorce & Everything Is Embarrassing
Listen: Taylor's Missing Dress & The Best Friend Curse
Listen: Goodbye Dolly & The Controversial ‘Pop-In’
Listen: New Couple Launch & A Very Hollywood Situationship
Listen: The Swans Aftermath & WTF Harry And Meghan?
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What to read:
Lindsay Clancy's defence is calling witnesses. They paint a picture of the months before the killings.
Mamamia Out Loud special episode: The Lindsay Clancy conversation.
Is Meghan and Harry's return to the UK actually a big deal? An explainer.
'I had a conversation with Olivia Rodrigo and it brought up my biggest insecurity.'
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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright & Jessie Stephens on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
The OGs are back. Mia, Holly and Jessie are back together on Mamamia Out Loud for the first time in… well, none of them can actually remember how long it’s been.
And Jessie is officially back from maternity leave! In case you missed it, she also joined Kate Langbroek on this week’s No Filter, where she got very vulnerable about the last six months of her life. There were things Mia didn’t even know about Jessie and now you get to hear all about them too.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to No Filter: "I Went to a Really Dark Place": Jessie Stephens on the Six Months Nobody Saw
Listen: A Lil' Treat: Jessie’s Ready To Tell Her Twin Birth Story
Listen to our latest episode: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
Listen: The Blindside Divorce & Everything Is Embarrassing
Listen: Taylor's Missing Dress & The Best Friend Curse
Listen: Goodbye Dolly & The Controversial ‘Pop-In’
Listen: New Couple Launch & A Very Hollywood Situationship
Listen: The Swans Aftermath & WTF Harry And Meghan?
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
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What to read:
Jessie Stephens doesn't know what just happened.
Exactly what Jessie Stephens' day looks like now.
On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers.
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It took $18 billion to get kids off instagram. Meta has agreed to pay the landmark sum to make social media safer. Mia breaks down what’s actually changing, whether it will actually help, or whether we’re all too addicted.
Plus, Mia and Nicole Kidman have something surprisingly specific in common. There’s a “freezer spell” trend taking over group chats, is it setting a boundary… or just a very cold way of avoiding a difficult conversation?
A tragic death has prompted a deeply uncomfortable conversation about sex, consent and what young people now consider normal. Amelia looks at why sexual choking has become so widespread among young people and why experts say that consenting to something doesn’t necessarily make it safe.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: The Blindside Divorce & Everything Is Embarrassing
Listen: Taylor's Missing Dress & The Best Friend Curse
Listen: Goodbye Dolly & The Controversial ‘Pop-In’
Listen: New Couple Launch & A Very Hollywood Situationship
Listen: The Swans Aftermath & WTF Harry And Meghan?
Listen: Would You Go Topless In Front Of Your Dad?
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Conversation
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
We're in for a scary year on socials in 2025.
'Australia's been blocked from Pornhub. As a sex expert, I think we're getting this wrong.'
The deeply concerning way porn is changing the brains of young boys.
'I desperately need to go clubbing with Nicole Kidman.'
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Did you know you can ghost your long-term partner? Enter the 'disappearing boyfriend'. Is this actually a new dating phenomenon, or just heartbreak with better branding?
Plus, there’s another way to be 'mid'. That messy, awkward, deeply embarrassing stage we all have to endure before we become remotely good at something.
And Mia has been sorting her friends into two very important categories: the ones you see in daylight… and the ones you’d actually call at 2am.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
Recommendations
Em recommends RecpieTin Eats' Quick and Dirty Focaccia recipe for the perfect pot luck bring.
Mia recommends Gracie Abram's new album, Daughter From Hell.
Amelia recommends Villa Coco by Andrew Sean Greer.
Plus, a third recco... Nagi's Pad See Ew recipe.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Taylor's Missing Dress & The Best Friend Curse
Listen: Goodbye Dolly & The Controversial ‘Pop-In’
Listen: New Couple Launch & A Very Hollywood Situationship
Listen: The Swans Aftermath & WTF Harry And Meghan?
Listen: Would You Go Topless In Front Of Your Dad?
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Conversation
Listen: The Part of Hayden Panettiere's Story Everyone's Missing
Listen: The Fake Bump Conspiracy Continues. Anne Hathaway Edition.
Listen: Logies Recap & The Melbourne Lawyer Fired for a TikTok
Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
'I've seen hundreds of divorces. The women who cope best all do this one thing.'
'I thought we were in the honeymoon phase. Then my husband blindsided me.'
'Last week, a guy told me honestly why he was dumping me. I wish he'd just ghosted.'
'I'm talking to a guy who ghosted me a year ago. He has absolutely no idea who I am.'
15 women on the cringe-worthy moment that keeps them up at night.
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Mia Freedman, Emily Vernem & Amelia Lester
Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray
Video Producer: Josh Green
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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Dolly Parton has died at 80, and the world has lost one of its most beloved icons. Mia, Amelia and Em unpack what made Dolly so universally loved. From her music and iconic look to her extraordinary business brain and the millions of books she’s given to children.
Plus, would you have a baby for $75,000? Singapore is offering new parents a huge cash incentive to tackle its declining birth rate.
And is the humble ‘pop-in’ officially cancelled? Is turning up at someone’s house unannounced rude or even, controversial?
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to Unleashed: 'I'm Wearing Red Undies For Financial Reasons'
Listen to our latest episode: New Couple Launch & A Very Hollywood Situationship
Listen: The Swans Aftermath & WTF Harry And Meghan?
Listen: Would You Go Topless In Front Of Your Dad?
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Conversation
Listen: The Part of Hayden Panettiere's Story Everyone's Missing
Listen: The Fake Bump Conspiracy Continues. Anne Hathaway Edition.
Listen: Logies Recap & The Melbourne Lawyer Fired for a TikTok
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
Legendary country singer Dolly Parton has died, aged 80.
'The world feels a lot less sparkly': All the celebrities paying tribute to Dolly Parton.
'I'm a doctor and this is why women over 40 are full of s***. Literally.'
Apparently we're all constipated right now, but most of us won't admit it.
The real reason less of us are having babies in 2025.
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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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