Mamamia Out Loud

Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem & Jessie Stephens on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: The Emmy’s Love Story We Can’t Stop Thinking About

Harry and Meghan pulled their kids out of school after just two days, and Holly has a theory about what's really driving it and who should be footing the bill to fix it.
Plus Karl Stefanovic's podcast has gone dark for three weeks. We chat about the court battle with his business partner and the very rich name he's floated as a possible saviour.
Also, Em Vernem runs through the biggest Emmy wins, the show that swept almost everything and the surprise appearance from a celebrity's cat!
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Listen to our latest episode: Sydney Sweeney Knows Exactly What She's Doing & The 'Paperclip' Theory
Listen: Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’
Listen: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
Listen: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
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All the very best looks from the 2026 Emmy Awards red carpet.
The 2026 Primetime Emmy Awards are here and there's one major TV show missing from the nominees.
The 7 best and most underrated TV shows of 2026 (so far).
Harry and Meghan just moved back to England. SNL UK gave them a brutal welcome home.
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We're being told AI could end humanity, which is a lot for a Monday. But don’t worry, Sydney Sweeney is here to tell us how much she loves sports!

There’s a skit going viral about Harry and Meghan that has people divided on whether it’s a little bit funny or a little bit mean.

An AI researcher quit his job last week and told us that the people building this stuff genuinely believe it could kill us all within the decade. Amelia explains what the whistleblowers are calling for and why "just regulate it" might not be the easy fix everyone assumes.

Plus Holly's making the case for 'hopepunk' - why choosing hope right now might be the most rebellious thing you can do. Borrowing from Caitlin Moran and Nick Cave, we explore how you can actually change anything in a world this broken, and why giving up isn't an option.

Also, Sydney Sweeney's new ad for a sports betting app has her straddling a basketball hoop naked, and it has united female athletes around the world. They’re furious. We unpack why women in sport feel it’s pushed us backwards and whether the ad is doing exactly what it was designed to do.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Why We All Quit Therapy & When The Internet Says ‘Leave Him’
Listen: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
Listen: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
We asked 3 pro athletes what people often underestimate about women in sport.
This is what happens when a child is told they are the wrong 'size' for sport.
Harry and Meghan just moved back to England. SNL UK gave them a brutal welcome home.
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Are Aussies anti bush? Not the former president, the bikini kind. A viral essay asked why nobody blinked when a writer wore hers to the beach, and Em wants to know whether Australia is culturally anti-bush while America is having a big bush renaissance (a bush-enaissance if you allow).
Would you post about it if your partner killed the family pet? A well-known content creator told her 1.8 million followers that her husband had killed the injured bird they were nursing back to health, and the internet unanimously said the same thing: leave him. But is it actually that simple, or is there a difference between the line you'd draw with your partner and the line you'd draw with a friend?
Plus, one of the biggest names on the internet has just quietly ended a show she's been running for 12 years, and Em thinks she's stopped too soon.
And therapy is over-rated! Why none of us are having it at the moment and what we’re doing instead.
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And, because it's Friday, our best recommendations for your weekend:
Holly recommends The Unleashed episode with Ginni on voluntary assisted dying
Em recommends a leather journal from Milligram, plus their $15 ruled notebooks if you're just starting out
Mia recommends The Ultimatum: Queer Love, both seasons, now streaming in full on Netflix
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: When Keeshia’s Lip Filler Went Wrong
Listen: You Can't Say That About Your Kids & The Infamous Woman We Just Don't Believe
Listen: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
Constance Hall's husband killed her rescue bird. There's more to the story.
'Millennial hobby energy' is the reason we'll never be happy.
'These are the 5 winter hobbies I'm obsessed with for under $50.'
'I'm a psychologist. This is the one thing you should never do in therapy.'
HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: ‘I desperately needed to find some calm… So I read one very particular book and I got a hobby.’
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Mia Freedman & Emily Vernem
Group Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas
Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit
Video Producer: Josh Green
Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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The algorithm has been serving you the word 'algorithm' all week and we explain why. Is your feed about to change forever?

Why aren't women allowed to break script and say they feel relief when their kids leave home? One very famous Gen X icon did and Mia and Holly have thoughts.
Why would a woman about to go to jail invite a controversial documentary maker into her home for a month? Jessie unpacks the Elizabeth Holmes news.
And can two people who hated each other for fifteen years really just... go back to normal? Apparently a quarter of all siblings are estranged at some point and Liam and Noel Gallagher might just have a message for Princes William and Harry.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex
Listen to The Quicky's latest episode: Algorithms: Will You Opt In Or Out?
Listen: Raygun And The Confidence Question
Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
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Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter.
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
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What to read:
'I watched Louis Theroux's new documentary. The real problem isn't who you think.'
The question nobody asked before the social media ban.
Michelle Obama's daughters 'tested limits' as teens. She feared life in the White House messed them up.
'This new trailer is the most unsettling thing I've ever watched.'
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem & the latest addition to the group chat, Keeshia Pettit on our subscriber-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation here: The King's Very Pointed Harry Letter & Alix Vs Alex

King Charles has sent a very formal letter about Prince Harry's return to Britain — and it's basically him telling the whole world that nothing has changed. Harry's still not part of the royal family.
Plus, Alix Earle's new Netflix show is finally addressing the very public feud with another famous Alex, Call Her Daddy host Alex Cooper. It turns out there's something more serious behind this 'celebrity' drama.
Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Raygun And The Confidence Question
Listen: Your House Needs A Dirty Zone & Everything That Got Jessie Stephens Through Mat Leave
Listen: Gwyneth’s Dinner Party Disaster & Tom Cruise’s New Love Interest
Listen: The Lindsay Clancy Frenzy & Holly’s Surprising Harry Take
Listen: What Mia Didn’t Know About Jessie’s Postpartum
Listen: The Names In Nicole Kidman’s Freezer & It's Time To Talk About Choking
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see
Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
These two women had a very public fallout. We're now learning what happened.
King Charles just released a pointed letter about Harry and Meghan. It makes one thing very clear.
'I spent a morning with Prince Harry. It wasn't at all like I expected.'
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Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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