Mamamia Out Loud

Outlouders, enjoy this free bite of Mia exploring what we're (scientifically) calling 'weird twin shit' with resident Mamamia twins, Jessie and Clare Stephens. Catch the full chaos of Jessie And Clare Stephens’ Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder at 5 pm TODAY. Not a subscriber yet? Honestly, why wait?

Jessie Stephens is pregnant with twins — which feels cosmically aggressive when you remember she is a twin (to Clare Stephens — keep up, people). Especially when you consider that Jessie and Clare were raised by a woman who had two sets of identical twins herself. And yes, Anne Stevens would like the universe to calm down.
On this subscriber episode, Mia Freedman gets Jessie and Clare in the studio to unpack eerie twin intuition (just one example: Clare knew Jessie had two heartbeats going on in her womb before Jessie even told her), and the very real logistics of carrying two babies at once.
We talk:
Why some people say “How exciting!” at the news of twins while others go instantly grey

The science vs superstition of twins having twins

Miscarriage, sibling timing, and the emotional whiplash of joy and fear

Collapsed ribs, reflux, and the indignity of sleeping upright

Plus, there’s debate about birth-room access, grandparent maths, and whether 'weird twin shit' is now officially hereditary.
It’s intimate. It’s chaotic. It’s extremely twin-coded.

Remember, this is your free sample of today's subs episode. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.
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Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
Listen: Jessie's Twins Update & What We Really Did Over The Holidays
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What to read:
JESSIE STEPHENS: On being pregnant with twins. As a twin. With twin brothers.
"We lived 30 years as fraternal twins. Then, two weeks ago, we took a test."
CLARE STEPHENS: 'The story of how I became a (very viral) meme.'
CLARE STEPHENS: A rude stranger, a note from a neighbour and the age of utter intolerance.
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"Three months ago, I made my biggest mistake and cheated on her..." These were the words that a Norwegian biathlete shared in his live press interview, minutes after winning bronze at the Winter Olympics. So why did Sturla Holm Laegreid choose to tell the world he messed up his chance with "the love of his life" and will his grand gesture to get her back work?
Also, the world can't look away from the devastating true-crime story of the apparent abduction of US TV star Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy. Today, there's been an announcement that a man has been detained after the release of a nightmarish video, but why has this case captured the world's attention and does that spotlight help, or harm, a real-time investigation?
Plus, Lindsay Vonn is a US ski-racer who should possibly never have started the race that just ended her career. So is her story a triumphant one about resilience, or a cautionary one about ego?
And look, Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester were not going to leave the studio without a dose of scurrilous gossip: The footballer dumped immediately after they lost the Superbowl; why Kendall Jenner needed hand-holding in the Bad Bunny show; Kim and Lewis and, the couple most likely to infuriate their friends are (maybe) back together. Yes, it's JLO and Ben, 2.5.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard!
Listen: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read
Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
Watch Mamamia Out Loud:
Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube
What to read:
On Saturday, Nancy Guthrie's doorbell camera disconnected. By morning, she'd vanished.
'All I can think about is the Winter Olympics penis scandal.'
'One moment during the Super Bowl halftime show brought me to tears.'
A slap, a 24-year age gap, and the controversy surrounding Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron.
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Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.
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Outlouders, enjoy this free taste of Mia asking which generation of parents is top of the leaderboard on today's subscriber episode. Listen to the complete episode of The Best (And Worst) Generations Of Parents. A Leaderboard! at 5pm today. Not a subscriber, you say? Do yourself a favour.

What happens when Gen X realises she’s starting to look like her mum — and that her kids are now the age she was when she thought her parents were ancient? A very MMOL conversation, that’s what.
In this subscriber-only episode, Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Jessie Stephens unpack how parenting has shifted across generations — from Boomer hands-off freedom, to Gen X helicoptering, to Millennial optimisation, expertise and AI-assisted anxiety spirals.
They talk latchkey childhoods, being raised by parents who were very much the main characters, and why modern parenting feels like a never-ending performance review. There’s guilt, control, tracking apps, bedtime boundaries, feminist car lectures, and the uncomfortable truth that our kids don’t magically become independent just because they turn 18.
Outlouders, we want to hear from you: did you parent the way you were parented — or swing wildly in the opposite direction? Let us know in Mamamia Outlouders.

Remember, this is your little treat; a sample of the full subs experience. The full debrief drops for subscribers at 5pm.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: The Most Bizarre Celebrity Profile We’ve Ever Read
Listen: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule
Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
Watch Mamamia Out Loud:
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What to read:
'I'm a millennial mum. These are the differences I've noticed between Gen X and millennial parents.'
A teacher has compared the parenting of baby boomers, Gen X and millennials and... woah.
Gen X and Millennials just discovered 'dishonest harmony'. They blame the Boomers.
The forgotten middle children of Generation X have something to say.
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Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]
Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
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It’s Super Bowl Day in the US and while we’re not clear on the result, we do know that Kim Kardashian decided it was date night and Bad Bunny is actually one extremely good bunny. So, why did he inspire other musicians to put on a rival halftime show?
In other business, the 'Coldplay kiss cam' woman is telling her side of the story of the night that changed her life, and Jessie Stephens, Clare Stephens and Holly Wainwright ask: What do you do with the kind of infamy that no-one wants?
And, Recipe Tin Eats’ Nagi Maehashi is mourning the loss of her very good boy, the famous Dozer. Have we learned how to say goodbye to pets properly? And what do we do with that very particular grief?
Plus, Melinda Gates and what you owe a truly terrible ex. And Bianca Censori — Kanye West’s wife — has given a long and winding interview about why she’s ready to put clothes on. Why, though?
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Do I Matter? & The Bathroom Taboo
Listen: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule
Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media
Watch Mamamia Out Loud:
Mamamia Out Loud on YouTube
What to read:
When Bill Gates married Melinda, there was a condition. He could go on a yearly holiday with his ex.
The one thing about the Epstein files everyone is missing.
A guide to the Epstein files for people who don't have all day.
Millions of Australians loved Dozer. Now RecipeTin Eats' Nagi Maehashi has said goodbye.
It would be different if she had a voice.
The disturbing truth about why Bianca Censori left Kanye West.
THE END BITS:
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Mia Freedman is in full-on producer mode at the moment with the launch of her shiny new project Unleashed. Today, however, she’s back in the hosting chair on Mamamia Out Loud as she spills to Jessie Stephens and Em Vernem what this producer gig malarkey is all about. Outlouders, trust us, you’re going to eat this up.
And, do you matter? Are you essential or just... existing? Mia, Jessie, and Em unpack the 'mattering' movement and why it’s taking over from 'let them'.
Plus, hotel bathrooms. Something’s changed, and it’s making us feel most exposed. The hosts dig into this trend and why some things — even with your partner — are better left private.
Also, Valentine’s Day = loneliest day for singles? Em begs to differ. There’s actually a worse one, and she’s explaining why.
Aaaand did we mention that hair tinsel is back? Naturally, Mia is fully here for it. Welcome to the world of disco hair.
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Recommendations
Em recommends the new season of Bridgerton and The Spill's Watch Party, Viral Moments, Marriage Rules & The Life Of A Maid
Jessie recommends On The Edge by Kate Horan
Mia recommends these sparkly hair clips from Amazon.
What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: The Female Emaciation Era — Holly & Jessie Weigh In
Listen: An Urgent Theory About Kim Kardashian & Lewis Hamilton
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip - Karl Stefanovic, Melania Trump & Sydney Sweeney, Oh My
Listen: Fertility Vampires & The Murkiness Of 'Affair Baiting'
Listen: It's Time To Burp Your House & The 3, 5, 7 Underwear Rule
Listen: The New 'Wronged Wife' Divorce Playbook
Listen: A Royal Summer Update Of Very Big Feelings
Listen: The Productivity Hack Jessie Swears By & Rogue Habits We Can't (Won't) Quit
Listen to Watch Party: BRIDGERTON S4: Viral Moments, Marriage Rules & The Life Of A Maid
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts
Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including Unleashed, the brand new show for Gen X women who need a laugh.

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Watch Mamamia Out Loud:
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What to read:
'I'm happily married and think celebrating Valentine's Day is cringe. Here are my 7 reasons why.'
MIA FREEDMAN: 'The pants that divided the Internet a little bit.'
6 facts that will change the way you watch the new season of Bridgerton.
'The new season of Bridgerton fulfils a dream I didn't realise I had.'
THE END BITS:
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GET IN TOUCH:
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Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.
Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.
Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud
CREDITS:
Hosts: Emily Vernem, Jessie Stephens & Mia Freedman
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
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