Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Jase, Missy, and Al dive into an unfiltered conversation about cheating, confession, and the judgment that often follows when sin comes into the light. Joined by longtime friend, author, and counselor Kasey Van Norman, they confront the lie beneath adultery and why hiding can feel safer than healing, especially in church culture. Kasey shares her own story of infidelity, exposure, and redemption, revealing how honesty brought freedom even when consequences were severe. 

In this episode: 1 John 1, verse 7; John 8, verses 1–11; Ephesians 6, verses 16–17; Isaiah 6, verses 5–8

“Unashamed” Episode 1260 is sponsored by:

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wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621

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Chapters:

00:00 Unashamed “after dark”

03:58 Why church smiles don’t match Sunday morning reality

07:12 Parenting later in life changes everything

09:16 Missy welcomes longtime friend Casey Van Norman

12:38 Duck hunting & menopause don’t mix

20:36 Casey’s marriage story & the moment everything shifted

27:48 Believing in God but believing the wrong lie

35:04 Confession, consequences, & real freedom

42:18 Illness, criticism, & choosing grace anyway

49:36 Creating space for healing

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The Robertsons dig into why truth doesn’t always play well in modern culture, and why Jesus wouldn’t be popular in a TikTok world built on virality and approval. The guys talk through everything from their long-running distrust of dentists to why being pro-life isn’t a matter of personal preference or opinion. They reflect on how stories like The Chronicles of Narnia communicate hard truths better than arguments ever could and why true change is often so uncomfortable.

Today’s conversation is about Lesson 2 of C.S. Lewis on Christianity taught by visiting Hillsdale professor Michael Ward. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/.

More about C.S. Lewis on Christianity:

Encounter the faith & wisdom of C.S. Lewis

C.S. Lewis’s writings bring the great questions of the Christian faith to life. Through his imaginative and invigorating style, Lewis answers these questions in ways that are compelling to those outside Christianity and energizing to those within the Christian faith.

In this free, seven-lecture course, Professor Michael Ward—a leading scholar of C.S. Lewis—will explore Lewis’s:


argument for objective moral value in response to the rise of modern subjectivism;


bittersweet path to conversion and the role of enjoyment in the Christian life;


advice regarding the proper way to pray and read the Bible;


teachings concerning the purpose of pain and how to confront suffering and loss;


insights about the nature of heaven and hell.

This course examines these fundamental topics not only through his classic works—including Mere Christianity, The Screwtape Letters, and The Abolition of Man—but also through Lewis’s personal experiences with doubt, conversion, suffering, grief, and joy. Through this course, students will discover Lewis’s core lessons regarding the truth and goodness of the Christian faith and how to apply those lessons to one’s life. 

Join us today in discovering C.S. Lewis’s enduring lessons about the meaning and practice of Christianity. Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/

Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621

Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts.

Chapters:

0:00 – All good conversations need caffeine

4:05 – Why studying C.S. Lewis still matters today

8:25 – “I can’t believe anything unless it makes sense”

13:10 – Objective truth vs. subjective feelings

18:20 – The problem of evil & why moral outrage points to God

23:55 – How suffering backed C.S. Lewis into Christianity

29:10 – Tolkien, Dyson, & relaxing into the Christian story

34:40 – Faith as participation, not just belief

40:05 – Why C.S. Lewis wouldn’t be popular in today’s culture

45:30 – Christianity isn’t safe but it is good

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As the Robertsons begin wrapping up their first full duck season without Phil, they reflect on legacy, hard work, and the faith that shaped their family. Phyllis joins the conversation to look back on Phil’s later years, the weight of the words “I never knew,” and the healing that followed Phil’s honesty instead of silence. The guys and Phyllis discuss trauma, forgiveness, and how truth spoken even late in life can still bring restoration. 

To hear Phyllis’s story from the beginning, watch her first Unashamed appearances in episodes 95 and 96 here: 

https://youtu.be/9n4Ab6mL9W0?si=YD9337YYIr5_AC6n

https://youtu.be/kA4BCl5mhbY?si=MJgoQOfNB0EXjkwk

And pre-order her book I Never Knew at https://ineverknewbook.com 

In this episode: Hebrews 12, verse 11; Romans 12, verse 2; 2 Corinthians 5, verse 17; Philippians 3, verse 13

“Unashamed” Episode 1258 is sponsored by:

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Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts!

https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l

Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts.

Chapters:

00:00 Opening the first duck season without Phil

03:42 Remembering Phil’s work ethic & love of the hunt

08:27 Living off the land & the values Phil passed down

13:41 Why hard work formed the Robertson family worldview

18:02 Phyllis is sharing her story with the world

23:55 How the letter, the photo, & faith connected the dots

29:48 “I never knew” — the moment Phil met his daughter

34:55 Trauma, forgiveness, & healing later in life

41:10 Telling the truth unlocks restoration

46:20 Phil gets the last word

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Jase opens up about late-season duck hunting, exhaustion, and a call he wishes he could take back, owning a miss that came from pushing himself too far. Phil’s old-school wisdom and the legendary ham bribe prove  lessons that still hold up when put to the test. The guys turn to why confidence and self-help can only take you so far when it comes to real change. Plus, Jase discovers Napoleon Dynamite about 25 years too late!

In this episode: Genesis 14, verses 18–24; Genesis 4, verse 10; Psalm 110, verses 1–4; Hebrews 1, verses 1–4; Hebrews 6, verse 19; Hebrews 7, verses 15–28; Hebrews 9, verses 11–14; verses 21–24; Hebrews 10, verses 19–22; Hebrews 12, verses 22–24; 1 John 1, verse 9; 1 John 2, verses 1–2; 1 John 3, verses 11–18; Romans 8, verse 11; 2 Corinthians 5, verse 1

“Unashamed” Episode 1257 is sponsored by:

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Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts!

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621

Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts.

Chapters:

00:00 – Duck season burnout, sleep deprivation, and bad decision fatigue

05:48 – Phil could be bribed by ham

08:49 – Jase demonstrates the duck call Phil invented 

16:55 – Jewish history reveals the salvation of all people

22:14 – Who is Melchizedek? Who’s Napoleon Dynamite?

32:06 – Why people chase indestructible heroes but miss real strength

38:42 – Confidence, conscience, and why self-help can’t carry the weight

46:02 – Justice vs forgiveness and what kind of life actually lasts

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Jase wakes up expecting a quiet morning and instead finds himself facing a household mess that leads to an honest, awkward conversation with his daughter Mia about late-night choices and personal responsibility. Al reflects on a painful season when his marriage felt like it was on the brink. Looking back, he shares how learning to see past failure made it possible to imagine a future again, even when hope felt out of reach. The guys offer a candid look at family tension, personal growth, and how hard moments can become turning points when you’re willing to face them head-on.

In this episode: 1 John 1, verses 5–10; 1 John 2, verses 1–2; John 17, verses 20–26; 1 Timothy 2, verses 3–6; Hebrews 1, verses 1–4; Hebrews 2, verses 14–18; Hebrews 4, verses 14–16; Hebrews 3, verse 14; Hebrews 11, verse 1; 1 John 4, verse 17; Psalm 2, verses 1–8; Matthew 4, verses 1–10; Romans 8, verses 1–17

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Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts!

https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l

Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts.

00:00 Jase’s quiet house turns into total chaos06:08 Crawfish season, pain, and unexpected lessons10:54 When dogs refuse the “portal” to the outdoors15:42 Why light and darkness can’t live together21:18 Walking in fellowship instead of hiding in sin27:36 Jesus as our defender and mediator33:44 Confidence before God explained39:28 Why Jesus became human45:41 Living the good life by the Spirit51:10 Setting up the next Hebrews discussion

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