Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

The future of high-tech warfare has arrived. Just look to the conflicts in Ukraine and Iran to see how much drones and robots have remade the modern battlefield. Is the U.S. positioned to win wars in this new era? What are the ethical constraints of waging autonomous warfare? My guest this week is Christian Brose, the president and chief strategy officer of Anduril, a defense technology company building a slate of autonomous weapons and defense systems for the American military.

00:00 - Intro

03:18 - Drones on the Russia - Ukraine battlefield

8:17 - Iran's stalemate and American military readiness

17:11 - Anduril is more than a "Lord of the Rings" reference

25:33 - Force fields and a layered defense

31:12 - The challenges of "finicky" autonomous systems

44:44 - The ethics of automating the kill chain

(A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.)

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What’s really driving the humanities crisis in higher education? As enrollment and reading decline, I asked Jennifer Frey, a professor of philosophy, what it was like to run a liberal arts program that was gutted. I wanted to know whether she thinks the age of A.I. could bring back the kind of education she says is fundamental to human formation.

00:00 - Intro

2:08 - Why study the humanities?

5:00 - Do the humanities mean more morality?

15:00 - Shakespeare vs. John Grisham

24:07 - The Tulsa Honors College

34:43 - Left-wing critiques and specialization

44:10 - Is conservatism a friend to liberal arts?

56:32 - Why the humanities are crucial in the age A.I.

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The United States and China are really the only two countries that matter right now in shaping the A.I. future. As President Trump and President Xi Jinping meet in Beijing, there’s a kind of Cold War atmosphere, with people talking about an A.I. arms race. But who is winning? Are we even in a race at all? Kyle Chan, a foreign policy fellow at the Brookings Institution, says it’s hard to call it a race because the U.S. and China have very different A.I. goals.

00:00:25 U.S. vs. China in A.I.

00:03:07 Everyday A.I. in China

00:07:41 China's A.I. chip limitations

00:12:14 China's A.I. advantage: energy & deployment

00:16:10 China's public mood on A.I.

00:19:44 AI, job displacement and social concerns

00:23:53 Robots for China's labor shortage

00:26:55 China's view on America's AGI fixation

00:31:16 Distilling A.I. models

00:38:39 U.S. needs more A.I. deployment

00:41:48 U.S. chip policy and the hawk's argument

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A stalemated war. Fractured alliances. A rival waiting in the wings. It feels to me that we’re having an “end of the American empire” moment. My guest this week, Ray Dalio, is an unlikely prophet of doom — the billionaire Bridgewater investor conquered Wall Street by studying history and mastering global trends. He foresaw the 2008 financial crisis,and these days he’s warning that the U.S. is repeating the patterns that ended great empires of the past.

0:00 - Intro

01:24 - The rise and fall of empires through big cycles

08:35 - Geopolitical tensions: China, Iran and the Suez Canal

14:27 - Fiat currency or gold?

24:19 - America’s coming ‘heart attack’

30:37 - Acts of nature, A.I. and technology

43:37 - ‘Could we have a Japanese future?’

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Self-driving cars are here. But what kind of future will they bring: safe roads and extra time or dystopian traffic jams? My guest this week is Andrew Miller, who writes about self-driving cars and transportation policy. I love the open road, so I press him on what’s lost when we give away driving to the robots.

0:00 - Intro

01:27 - The sales pitch for Waymo, Tesla, and Zoox 

12:24 - How autonomous are autonomous cars? 

20:14 - Liability: Who is responsible for an accident?

31:56 - Political obstacles: Spying, data, labor

38:53 - 20:35: The good and bad scenarios

48:25 - Are we losing the “romance of the road”?

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