Everything Electric Podcast

This week, Helen Czerski catches up with Michael Liebreich on why hydrogen's hype is deflating, what the electrification staircase says we should do now, and why the energy transition is easier than it looks.
0:00 Introduction and welcome to Michael Liebreich
2:04 What is the "hydrogen soufflé"?
5:35 Hydrogen ladder 6.0: cheaper batteries and a growing "row of doom" 
9:14 Why clean hydrogen will likely stay blue, and white hydrogen reality check
14:07 Wind and solar overtake gas, and the primary energy fallacy
18:45 Do fuel cells have a future? Data centres and backup power
21:29 The electrification staircase: the 70% still to electrify
32:56 Who it's for, plus noisy motorbikes, Orwell's coal fire and induction hobs
37:39 Trump, heatwaves, Hormuz and Australia's battery boom
47:13 Skiing, glaciers, "no cold turkey on progress", and the Cleaning Up plug
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Robert mines Benchmark Mineral Intelligence for a 'data rich' and optimistic deep dive... Check out our sister channel Everything Electric CARS: https://www.youtube.com/@fullychargedshow Support our StopBurningStuff campaign: https://www.patreon.com/STOPBurningStuff Become an Everything Electric Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a YouTube member: use JOIN button above Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : https://buff.ly/2GybGt0 Subscribe for episode alerts and the Everything Electric newsletter: https://fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: https://FullyCharged.Show Find us on X: https://x.com/Everyth1ngElec Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialeverythingelectric #fullychargedshow #everythingelectricshow #homeenergy #cleanenergy #battery #electriccars #electric-vehicles-uk

Monstrous trucks and cleaning up a 'carbon monster': Robert talks to the CEO of Fortescue.
 
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Timestamps: 00:00:10 – Intro
00:03:49 – What Fortescue is, export scale, Port Hedland
00:07:26 – Why decarbonize: climate, economics, sovereignty
00:13:45 – The economics: diesel cost vs solar/battery savings
00:18:50 – Mining tech and safety: why big machines lag behind EVs
00:21:47 – Truck battery scale and first-gen electric retrofit design
00:30:06 – Full mining process, and electrifying the entire fleet
00:34:38 – Hydrogen and ammonia as alternative green fuels
00:39:31 – Steel making, green metal, and Pilbara industrial ambitions
00:58:25 – Battery safety, thermal runaway, and wind-down 

 
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Tabloids catastrophize about charging, but Robert talks to Ausgrid to uncover the truth...
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Helen Czerski has an enlightening chat with Eytan Lenko, 'Boundless' enthusiast for climate tech. Join the 'rEVolution', visit our imminent Everything Electric expos in London & Sydney: https://everythingelectric.show EE GREATER LONDON (Twickenham) - 11th & 12th Sept 2026 EE SYDNEY - Sydney Olympic Park - 18th - 20th Sept 2026 Check out our sister channel Everything Electric CARS: https://www.youtube.com/@fullychargedshow Support our StopBurningStuff campaign: https://www.patreon.com/STOPBurningStuff Become an Everything Electric Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/fullychargedshow Become a YouTube member: use JOIN button above Buy the Fully Charged Guide to Electric Vehicles & Clean Energy : https://buff.ly/2GybGt0 Subscribe for episode alerts and the Everything Electric newsletter: https://fullycharged.show/zap-sign-up/ Visit: https://FullyCharged.Show Find us on X: https://x.com/Everyth1ngElec Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/officialeverythingelectric #fullychargedshow #everythingelectricshow #homeenergy #cleanenergy #battery #electriccars #electric-vehicles-uk