S2:E15 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 2
Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Dee. We discussed his questioning of Adventism and Christianity in general, Satanic Panic, his evolving perspectives on religion, and having empathy for believers. We also talked about Dee's move to Sweden, his childhood connection to Dr. Ben Carson, and how the Ben Carson on TV is not the same man Dee once knew.Resources / Topics Mentioned: Song - I'm Afraid I'll Go to Heaven by Moon Walker Book - Inside Rock Music (SDA anti-rock propaganda) Artist - Erykah Badu Video - Erykah Badu NPR Tiny Desk Concert Article - Dr. Ben Carson Video - Carson 1997 National Prayer Breakfast Speech @ 34:53 Video - Carson 2013 National Prayer Breakfast Speech @ 34:1000:00 Intro 01:05 Part 2 of Dee's Story 02:34 The Historical Jesus 04:42 Personal Tragedy and Realizations 07:34 Why Do People Leave? 13:47 Empathy for Believers 21:41 Segregated Conferences 26:17 Sweden, Racism, and CRT 32:58 Music and Satanic Panic 44:00 Dr. Ben Carson 49:39 Moving to Sweden 54:02 Ethics and Adventism 1:05:37 Closing Thoughts Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy — Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook — Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License
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S2:E14 - From Faith & Fear to Freedom: Dee - Pt. 1
Support the Show • Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights Movement, and more.Resources / Topics Mentioned: Video - We Are the World Topic - Public Enemy Film - Malcolm X (1992) Topic - Assassination of MLK Jr. Topic - Poor People's Campaign Topic - The 15 Year Battle for MLK Jr Day Video - MLK: "A riot is the language of the unheard" Topic - White Americans Celebrated MLK's Death Topic - Ronald Reagan's wartime lies 00:00 Intro00:17 Meet Dee: 4th Gen Adventist02:49 Early Memories & Fearing Ellen White04:01 Questioning Church Teachings09:02 A Life-Changing Tragedy11:04 Living with Fear & Moving to Huntsville19:01 Baptism and Religious Pressure22:26 Purity Culture & Mixed Messages28:51 Weird "Health Message" Fads31:29 Racial Issues in Adventist Schools38:11 Civil Rights, Division, MLK43:30 Deconstructing Beliefs47:02 How Othering Manipulates Us53:07 The New Generation55:29 Trickle Down Greedonomics1:00:42 Dee's Adventist Education1:07:16 Goodbye Oakwood, Hello Adulthood1:11:26 OutroFull Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy —Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook — Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License
Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. In this episode, we cover more of Rosei's deconstruction, finding contentment and a new outlook on life, complementarianism, consent, mental health, becoming a content creator, and more.Resources / Topics Mentioned: Links - Rosei Quartz's Links Podcast - Rosei Quartz's Podcast Topic - Complementarianism Topic - Attachment Styles Topic - Bill Gothard's "Umbrella of Protection" Reddit - ex-SDA comments on Gothard's Umbrella Topic - The FRIES Model of Consent Book - #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing Topic - Youth Wilderness / Troubled Teen Industry Topic - SWERF Definition Topic - BITE Model of Authoritarian Control Topic - Adventist GC "Human Sexuality Task Force" Podcast - S1B2 - Human Sexuality Task Force Topic - Weaponized Incompetence Podcast - The Dream (Examining MLMs)00:00 Intro00:17 Rosei's Deconstruction05:16 Contentment and New Worldview13:47 Complementarianism Hurts Everyone20:36 Purity Culture & Consent22:10 Journey into Online SW28:10 Work is Work32:27 Online SW vs. Traditional Work36:33 SWERFs vs. Autonomy45:04 Adventist Leadership52:52 Advice for Leaving the Church55:20 Where to Find Rosei 57:22 OutroFull Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy — Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook — Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License
Support the Show • Santiago shares some personal news, updates on the future of the show, and listener stories.Resources / Topics Mentioned:Slate: Why Do We Give Our Pets Death With Dignity but Not Ourselves? S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife?More Listener Stories Podcast Resources Book ResourcesFull Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes — Have a story to share? Write to us, send a DM or voice message on Instagram, or leave a voicemail at (301) 750-8648‬. We take your privacy seriously: Privacy Policy — Twitter • TikTok • Instagram • YouTube • Facebook — Credits: Music: Hall of the Mountain King Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) • Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License
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