Everyday Ministry

Thinking Right to Move Right: When Women's Ministry is Built to Grow
What does it look like to build a women's ministry that actually helps women grow — not just attend?
In this episode of The Everyday Ministry Podcast, Lindsey Yeagley is joined by Beth Harrell, Women's Ministry Director at Old North Church, for a practical and honest conversation about intentionality in women's ministry. Together, they explore how existing ministries—like Bible studies and gatherings—can be used more thoughtfully to encourage maturity, evangelism, and long-term fruit.
Beth shares wisdom from years of ministry experience, including how to train leaders well, why growth often happens slowly and incrementally, and how informal "sheepdogs" play a vital role in helping women take their next step toward maturity in Christ. They also discuss the importance of unified Bible study, clear pathways for involvement, and cultivating a culture where gospel conversations are normal—even when we fail or feel hesitant.
This episode is especially helpful for pastors, women's ministry leaders, and volunteers who want to think carefully about structures that support growth, without over-programming or burning people out.
In This Episode, You'll Hear About
Why women's ministry needs intentional trellises, not just events

Using existing Bible studies more evangelistically and formatively

Training leaders to notice and nurture "left-lookers"

The role of informal leaders ("sheepdogs") in gospel growth

Why small, incremental change matters more than quick results

Helping women identify their next step toward maturity

Holding ministry structures loosely and adapting wisely over time

📚 Resources Mentioned (with Links)
Motherhood – Jocelyn Loane https://matthiasmedia.com/products/motherhood

The Trellis and the Vine – Colin Marshall & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/the-trellis-and-the-vine

The Vine Project – Colin Marshall & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/the-vine-project

Guidance and the Voice of God – Phillip Jensen & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/guidance-and-the-voice-of-god

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Thinking Right to Move Right: Building Pathways for Women to Grow
What does it actually look like to help women take their next step toward maturity in Christ?
In this episode of The Everyday Ministry Podcast, Marty Sweeney sits down with Beth Harrell, former Matthias Media staff member and now full-time Women's Ministry Director at Old North Church. Together, they explore how thoughtful ministry structures—paired with patient, relational discipleship—help women move from events to engagement, and from attendance to maturity.
Beth reflects on the importance of building clear pathways for growth, balancing large gatherings with one-to-one ministry, and training leaders without burning them out. The conversation also challenges common assumptions about success in women's ministry, reminding us that long-term fruit often comes through slow, faithful investment in people rather than impressive programs.
This episode is especially encouraging for churches with limited time, staff, or resources—and for anyone wanting to think more carefully about how real growth happens in everyday ministry.
In This Episode, You'll Hear About
Why women's ministry needs pathways, not just programs

How one-to-one ministry supports and strengthens larger gatherings

Identifying and training leaders with patience and care

Why the "next step" isn't always another event

Measuring fruitfulness by growth, not numbers

📚 Resources Mentioned
The Trellis and the Vine – Colin Marshall & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/the-trellis-and-the-vine

The Vine Project – Colin Marshall & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/the-vine-project

Guidance and the Voice of God – Phillip Jensen & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/guidance-and-the-voice-of-god

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How do Christians actually grow in maturity — and what does it look like for the gospel to shape our everyday lives?
In this episode of Everyday Ministry, Lindsey Yeagley and Marty Sweeney continue their conversation about growing toward maturity in Christ by focusing on the means God uses to grow his people: his Word, prayer, and his people.
A central theme of this episode is the difference between simply memorizing gospel truths and truly internalizing the gospel so that it shapes how we think, pray, obey, and help others grow. Lindsey and Marty explain why having a clear framework like Two Ways to Live is so valuable — not just as an evangelism tool, but as a formative structure that helps the gospel take root in our hearts and lives over time.
They also reflect on why gospel clarity leads to gospel growth, how growth is often slow and uneven, and why helping others grow is a natural overflow of genuine maturity in Christ.
Note: The audio quality in this episode is not quite what we'd hoped — thank you for your patience and grace as you listen.
Key Topics
The difference between memorizing the gospel and internalizing it

Why Word, prayer, and people are God's primary tools for growth

How Two Ways to Live shapes everyday Christian thinking and living

The role of conviction, character, and competency in discipleship

Why growth in Christ is often slow, non-linear, and deeply relational

How gospel clarity fuels lasting growth and confidence

Resources Mentioned
Two Ways to Live – gospel tract and framework https://matthiasmedia.com/products/two-ways-to-live

Learn the Gospel (study built around Two Ways to Live) https://matthiasmedia.com/products/learn-the-gospel

The Trellis and the Vine – Colin Marshall & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/the-trellis-and-the-vine

The Vine Project – Colin Marshall & Tony Payne https://matthiasmedia.com/products/the-vine-project

Scripture Referenced
Joshua 1:8–9

Matthew 16:24

John 3:36

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In this episode of Everyday Ministry, Lindsey Yeagley and Marty Sweeney dig into the disciple-making idea of "moving to the right"—a phrase that comes from The Trellis and the Vine and The Vine Project by Tony Payne and Colin Marshall.
They explore what it means to grow in maturity in Christ, why right thinking about the gospel leads to right living for Jesus, and how the Two Ways to Live framework helps us pursue daily growth as disciples.
Together, they unpack how gospel clarity fuels gospel confidence, how sanctification is both God's work and our daily choice, and why looking "left" (helping others grow) is an essential mark of maturity.
Key Topics
What "moving to the right" means and why it matters

How Two Ways to Live provides a framework for ongoing discipleship

Why the gospel that saves us is also the gospel that grows us

Signs of spiritual growth and maturity in everyday life

How to disciple others by "looking left"

Resources Mentioned
📘 Two Ways to Live – The Choice We All Face

📗 The Vine Project – Shaping Your Ministry Culture Around Disciple-Making

📙 The Trellis and the Vine

📒 The Thing Is by Tony Payne

📕 Don't Waste Your Life by John Piper

📗 Side by Side by Ed Welch

📘 Learn the Gospel – Learn More

Scripture References
Colossians 1:28–2:7

Romans 5–6

Hebrews 3, 10, and 12

Luke 24

Mark 10:45

Psalm 2

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Lindsey and Marty kick off Season 3 with a fun breakfast chat that flows into a deep, practical conversation about sharing the gospel. They explore how the Two Ways to Live framework offers structure and freedom, helping Christians speak naturally and confidently about Jesus.
Key Topics
Why talking about cereal reminds us of the joy of sharing Jesus

What Two Ways to Live is and why it's helpful

Handling the "hard parts" of the gospel like sin and judgment

Tips for practicing gospel conversations with friends, kids, and neighbors

How gospel clarity fuels gospel confidence

Resources Mentioned
Two Ways to Live

Who Will Be King? (Kids' version)

Bible references: Matthew 12; Hebrews (Jesus' lordship and rule)

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