Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick

Welcome to another episode of Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick. In this conversation, Michael sits down with Mark Batterson, the celebrated pastor of National Community Church in Washington, D.C., and multi-time New York Times bestselling author. Together, they dive deep into the inspiration and lessons behind Mark’s latest book, "Gradually Then Suddenly: How to Dream Bigger, Decide Better, and Leave a Lasting Legacy."
Drawing from three decades of ministry, Mark Batterson shares stories of setbacks, perseverance, and the long, often unseen journey toward meaningful transformation. The episode explores the power of slow growth in a world obsessed with quick fixes, the value of legacy and "cathedral thinking," and the importance of staying humble and hungry over the long haul.
With candid reflections, practical wisdom, and a few memorable one-liners, this episode offers rich encouragement for anyone seeking to influence others, live with deep conviction, and play the long game of faith and leadership. So grab a cup of coffee and join us for a heartfelt discussion on dreaming, deciding, and leaving a legacy that lasts.

Mark Batterson serves as the Lead Visionary of National Community Church (NCC) in Washington, DC. NCC also owns and operates Ebenezers Coffeehouse, The Miracle Theatre, the DC Dream Center, the Capital Turnaround, and Culture House as gathering places for the community and funding for Kingdom causes. Mark also serves as Lead Visionary for The Dream Collective, which equips and supports dreamers who long for revival in the church, reformation in the kingdom, and renaissance in culture.
Mark holds a Doctor of Ministry degree from Regent University and is the author of 25 books including the New York Times bestselling The Circle Maker as well as In a Pit with a Lion on a Snowy Day, Wild Goose Chase, Double Blessing, Whisper, and, most recently, A Million Little Miracles and The Best Worst Day Ever, a children’s book he wrote with his daughter, Summer. Mark is married to Lora, and they live on Capitol Hill. They have three children: Parker, Summer (married to Austin), and Josiah.
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Welcome to another episode of Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick. Today, Michael is joined by author and therapist Jay Stringer for a deep and vulnerable conversation about his newest book, "Desire: The Longings Inside Us and the New Science of How We Love, Heal, and Grow." Together, they explore the civil war of desire that shapes our lives—how our deepest longings birth both our greatest joys and our most profound heartaches.
Jay Stringer shares how his personal and professional experiences led him to unpack the complexities of desire, discussing its impact beyond sexuality and touching on meaning, intimacy, growth, and purpose. The episode explores how our desires are formed, suppressed, or distorted—often by trauma, shame, and cultural influences—and why understanding these origins is crucial to transformation.
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Welcome back to the Restoring the Soul podcast with Michael John Cusick. In this episode, Michael and AJ Denson dive deeper into the transformative concepts from Michael’s book, Sacred Attachment: Escaping Spiritual Exhaustion and Trusting Divine Love. Picking up where they left off, the conversation centers on the “Four S’s” of attachment—Seen, Soothed, Safe, and Secure—and explores how these elements shape our spiritual and relational lives.
Together, they reflect on the nuances of secure and insecure attachment, the power of rupture and repair in relationships, and how even well-intentioned parents and caregivers can struggle to meet these needs. Michael brings personal stories and practical insights, offering hope for healing attachment wounds, whether through new relational patterns or divine love.
The episode also tackles the complex reality that attachment styles are not fixed but evolve with our circumstances and emotional states. Through compassionate storytelling and relatable examples, the hosts unravel what it means to be “soothed”—the crucial experience of knowing someone has “got you” in moments of distress, vulnerability, and everyday life.
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Welcome back to another episode of Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick. In today's conversation, Michael is joined by AJ Denson as they dive into the foundational building blocks of healthy relationships and spiritual well-being—the "Four S's" of attachment: seen, soothed, safe, and secure.
Picking up from their previous conversation on Attachment Neuroscience and the Trinity, Michael unpacks how the story of God is ultimately a story of profound attachment, beginning with the indivisible unity of the Trinity itself. The discussion explores how these four components of attachment shape not only our childhood experiences but also our spiritual lives and adult relationships.
Together, they reflect on what it means to be truly seen and delighted in, drawing parallels between the secure love a child needs and the way God knows and loves us deeply. With honest stories, cultural insights, and a grounding in Scripture, this episode offers hope for healing and restoration, even in the places where attachment may have been broken.
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Welcome to another episode of Restoring the Soul with Michael John Cusick. Today’s conversation dives deep into the heart of spiritual growth, as AJ Denson returns to interview Michael about his award-winning book, Sacred Attachment, Escaping Spiritual Exhaustion and Trusting in Divine Love.
The episode explores Chapter 3, focusing on attachment theory and its profound connection to both psychology and the divine. Michael lays a foundation by tracing attachment back beyond neuroscience and child development, all the way to the ultimate example: the Trinity. Together, Michael and AJ unpack how the Trinity models perfect attunement and connection, and what this means for our relationship with God, others, and ourselves.
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