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There are still God-fearing, God-loving people attending Bethel Church. That's exactly what makes this episode hard to make. But in light of recent events, we have to ask: Have we reached the point of mark and avoid? This is a one-stop, 30-minute review of concerns with Bethel to see the patterns.

ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
Remnant Radio has kept an eye on Bethel for years - through the grave soaking scandal, through Bill Johnson's daughter-in-law describing the Holy Spirit as a "genie," through the New Age framework quietly baked into Physics of Heaven, through Culture of Honor, through Bob Jones and Kenneth Copeland getting platformed anyway, and now through Shawn Bolz. We have reviewed many of these practices and situations over the years, and our comments have grown firmer and sterner toward Bethel leadership.

Now there's a new development, and it's not about doctrine. According to Mike Winger's sources, the people currently being let go at Bethel are the ones who kept asking the questions about transformation and change. If that's accurate, it isn't a staffing decision, but a pattern about the thinking and decision making of Bethel leadership.

So Josh asks the question a lot of Bethel's own alumni have been asking quietly for months, and finally says out loud what he's suspected for a while: is this still a church working through its mistakes, or has leadership moved somewhere it can't recover from? Are we at mark and avoid?

This isn't a pile-on. It's for the people who've genuinely loved this church and are trying to figure out what faithfulness looks like now that the pattern is this clear.

0:00 – Introduction
0:22 – Bethel Controversy Background
3:55 – Grave Soaking & Genie Scandal
5:34 – Michael Brown Interviews Bill Johnson
6:20 – Winger's First Bethel Review
7:21 – Physics Of Heaven Exposed
8:32 – Kenneth Copeland Endorsement
8:58 – Shawn Bolz Scandal Breaks
10:03 – Winger Exposes Shawn Bolz
13:56 – Bethel's Public Apology
16:47 – Passion Translation Plagiarism
17:23 – Layoffs And NDAs
20:01 – NDA Rights And Scripture
27:01 – PR Versus Real Repentance
29:54 – Examine Your Own Church

PLAYLIST ON POLICING THE CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMsjeViSScFHSZqA1Q85VKxRrkvEYXBec

PREVIOUS RR EPISODES OF BETHEL CHURCH:
2020 - https://youtu.be/sOTdC5LnrVA
2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soFFhiYZY-E
2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMkKILXkKWs
2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRvpVqmk5RU
2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6k91pFZWVc
2022 - https://youtu.be/w8b7y7mWIvg
2022 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XlUPjWRqpc
2022 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hseSRlFKzSM
2022 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTcgjtvc91E
2022 - https://youtu.be/9Bys8_ylGUk
2026 - https://youtu.be/TN6UbN0Vq6E
2026 - https://youtu.be/NSWzRCDTPNU
2026 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U1-rugrYZM
2026 - https://youtu.be/PEKIozi7Cjc
2026 - https://youtu.be/z0PTDwlpQPo
2026 - https://youtu.be/AcXNqe4vg6E
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You were probably taught to read Daniel like a codebook with beasts to identify, timelines to chart, and an Antichrist to spot. Dr. Jim Hamilton thinks the church has been missing the point, and he makes a compelling case that the key to Daniel's strangest visions is hiding in the stories of chapters 1–6.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
Dr. Jim Hamilton, professor of biblical theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and senior pastor of Kenwood Baptist Church, joins Joshua Lewis to walk through his book With the Clouds of Heaven: The Book of Daniel in Biblical Theology. His central claim: Daniel wrote real history and real prophecy, and the apocalyptic visions of chapters 7–12 aren't a departure from the narratives of chapters 1–6, but rather a projection of them. 

Look to the patterns: Nebuchadnezzar attacks God's people, plunders the temple, and tries to indoctrinate the faithful in Daniel 1, and that same pattern gets pressed onto the end times, again and again, until it culminates in resurrection of the dead (Daniel 12:2). Dr. Hamilton makes the case that Daniel interpreted his own God-given visions through a mind saturated with earlier Scripture, describing Nebuchadnezzar's shattered statue in the language of Psalm 1 and Psalm 2. 

However, the sparks fly on the fourth man in the fiery furnace. Dr. Hamilton argues it was an angel, not the pre-incarnate Christ, and Joshua isn't ready to concede. You'll also get his take on the 70th week of Daniel, resurrection hope in the Old Testament, and why Daniel parallels the book of Revelation.

ABOUT THE GUEST:
- https://jimhamilton.info
- With the Clouds of Heaven: The Book of Daniel in Biblical Theology https://a.co/d/00WPN6Zr
- Typology: Understanding the Bible's Promise-Shaped Patterns https://a.co/d/0d5vWjzG

RESOURCES MENTIONED: 
- Waking from the Dust: Daniel 12:2 and Resurrection Hope in Biblical Theology by Mitchell L. Chase https://a.co/d/02n8iyCx
- Knowing God by J.I. Packer: https://a.co/d/0bSWnkek
- The Book of Revelation (NIGTC) by G.K. Beale: https://a.co/d/0dUD4rQ9

0:00 – Introduction
2:40 – Daniel's Theology Overview
4:30 – Dating Daniel's Prophecies
6:59 – Nebuchadnezzar Patterns Repeated
13:07 – Daniel in the Writings
16:29 – Eden to Daniel
19:57 – Nebuchadnezzar's Dream, Psalm 1
28:46 – Fourth Man Debate
46:02 – Daniel 10 Angelic Visions
49:08 – Resurrection in Daniel
57:03 – Daniel's 70th Week
1:02:42 – Closing Encouragement
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Is it wrong to publicly name a false teacher, or is staying quiet the real problem? Emma Stark of the Global Prophetic Alliance recently released a video arguing that exposure ministries are "measuring fruit in hopelessness," and that real biblical justice can only be administered through a five-fold ministry structure where prophets alone have the authority to remove someone's spiritual credibility. Joshua Lewis and Michael Miller go clip by clip through her argument.

ABOUT THE EPISODE:
When leaders in charismatic and continuationist spaces are credibly accused of abuse, plagiarism, or false prophecy, who actually has the standing to say so, and does saying so publicly make you the villain? Josh and Michael walk through Emma Stark's claims of relationship with Ron Cantor, Mike Winger, JonMark Baker, and Remnant Radio, and then test her "five-fold justice" model against Proverbs 29:18, Ecclesiastes 9:18, Titus 3:10-11, 1 Corinthians 5, Ephesians 5:11, and 1 Timothy 5:20.

The core problem: scripture never assigns justice to a single office. It's given to the whole body of Christ. When that responsibility gets narrowed down to "only prophets can call this out," the practical result isn't more accountability, but less. 

This is a Word & Spirit conversation from a charismatic theology perspective. We're not cessationists, and we're not interested in throwing out the gifts of the Spirit. But when a new doctrine gets invented and taught as biblical without a single verse that actually supports it, biblical accountability requires we say so. 

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Full Emma Stark Episode - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY9mfDoZ35I 
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Joe Rogan's latest viral guest claims the Catholic Church genetically eliminated psychic ability from humanity through the Inquisitions. But is that true?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
Joe Rogan recently hosted Dr. Dean Radin, chief scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, to discuss his "psi gene" theory. During the interview, Radin claimed that the Catholic Inquisitions systematically targeted and killed people with a genetic predisposition for psychic ability, effectively removing that trait from Christianized populations over centuries.

It's the kind of theory that sounds compelling on first listen. Joshua Lewis did the historical review to test it. Is this true? Josh also explores the theological question underneath all of this. Why did the early church oppose occult practice in the first place? Was it a power grab as Dr. Radin suggests?

Join us to better understand the full discussion. Don't get caught flat-footed when secular podcasts make "confident historical claims" about Christianity.

0:00 – Introduction
0:14 – Dean Radin's Psychic Research
1:28 – The Psi Genetic Project
5:50 – Joshua's Historical Analysis
7:20 – The Four Inquisitions
9:57 – Spanish Inquisition & Witchcraft
13:03 – Scientific Problems Examined
14:12 – Church, Magic, & Scripture
17:02 – Closing Thoughts
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What is simony? And where do you draw the line? Here at Remnant Radio, we do sell courses and conferences teaching people about the gifts of the spirit. We want to be honest and upfront about that, and it's exactly why we're discussing simony in this episode. We want to examine whether what we do holds up under Scripture. 

ABOUT THIS EPISODE:
The word "simony" comes from Acts 8, when Simon Magus tried to purchase the power of the Holy Spirit and Peter answered him: "May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money" (Acts 8:20, ESV). That confrontation gave the body of Christ an important category for thinking about money and ministry that we're going to explore.

What did Peter actually condemn, and what didn't he condemn? Scripture is more specific than most people realize, and the early church, as documented in the Didache, wrestled openly with where the line sits between legitimate support for ministry and exploiting the gifts of God for personal gain.

This episode takes a hard look at that line. There are things that should never carry a price tag. Prayer ministry and deliverance ministry are on that list, and we'll walk through why Scripture draws that boundary so clearly. But the conversation doesn't stop there. What about seminary or Bible college? Christian books and music? The Bible itself? 

Join us for a biblical exploration of simony and where Scripture draws the line.

0:00 – Introduction
0:21 – Ethics of Charging for Ministry
8:53 – Scripture on Giving Freely
12:20 – Isaiah 55 and Matthew 10:8
17:47 – Payment for Healing Prayers?
18:55 – Compensation for Itinerant Ministers
23:12 – Honorariums and Speaking Fees
27:18 – Bibles, Seminaries, and Simony
32:03 – Simon the Sorcerer in Acts 8
37:37 – Suggested Donations for Deliverance?
51:38 – Didache on Itinerant Prophets
56:02 – Dangers of Full-Time Itinerancy
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