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The Genetics Podcast

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The Genetics Podcast
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    EP 259: A patient community driving awareness and research for Danon disease with Jenny Hsieh of the Danon Foundation

    01/10/2026 | 38 mins.
    Summary
    This week on The Genetics Podcast, Patrick is joined by Jenny Hsieh, Co-Founder and President of the Danon Foundation. They discuss how Danon disease affects males and females, why it is so often misdiagnosed, the current therapy landscape and research priorities, and how families can make informed decisions about gene therapy trials.
    Show Notes
    0:00 Intro to The Genetics Podcast
    00:59 Welcome to Jenny 
    01:28 An overview of Danon disease
    02:34 Sex differences in Danon disease and severe disease in females
    05:15 Why Danon disease is misdiagnosed and how it may be spotted earlier
    08:50 Therapy pipeline for Danon and the Foundation's global patient coordination
    13:46 Origin story of the Danon Foundation
    18:10 Research priorities and the burden of Danon disease beyond the heart
    22:39 Raising genetic testing awareness among ophthalmologists and cardiologists for Danon disease
    25:20 Recognizing broader Danon symptoms and launching the first Danon Awareness Day
    29:37 Informed consent and trial literacy for families weighing gene therapy
    33:14 Patient-friendly trial experiences
    36:19 Ways to support Danon research
    37:37 Closing remarks
    Find out more
    Danon Foundation
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    EP 258: The mutations hiding in healthy tissues with Inigo Martincorena of the Wellcome Sanger Institute

    24/09/2026 | 39 mins.
    This week on The Genetics Podcast, Patrick is joined by Dr. Inigo Martincorena, Group Leader at the Wellcome Sanger Institute. They discuss the discovery of widespread cancer-driver mutations in normal tissue, the role of somatic mutations in autoimmune disease, new sequencing technologies transforming the field, and the therapeutic potential of targeting these mutations.
    Show Notes
    0:00 Intro to The Genetics Podcast
    00:59 Welcome to Inigo 
    01:46 How Inigo's eyelid skin study revealed widespread cancer-driver mutations
    07:14 Findings from a follow-up study on esophageal tissue
    10:02 How NanoSeq technology scaled somatic mutation research across tissues
    12:34 The thyroid study linking somatic mutations to autoimmune disease
    17:07 How escaped B cell clones evolve into polyclonal autoimmune disease
    20:21 Immune gene mutations occurring in healthy aging lymphocytes
    21:21 Why driver mutation clones in normal tissue rarely become cancer
    24:16 Two therapeutic paradigms for targeting somatic mutations in disease
    28:13 Examples of somatic rescue mutations in the colon, liver, and blood
    29:20 Why clonal selection only occurs in dividing cell types
    31:20 The field's remaining blind spots in mobile immune cells and rare samples
    33:46 How new single-cell sequencing will link genotype to phenotype
    36:03 What Inigo has learned from collaborating across Sanger's expertise
    38:09 Closing remarks
    Find out more
    Eyelid study

    Esophagus study
  • The Genetics Podcast

    EP 257: Managing hereditary cancer risk and medical uncertainty with Marleah Dean Kruzel of the University of South Florida

    17/09/2026 | 39 mins.
    This week on The Genetics Podcast, Patrick is joined by Dr. Marleah Dean Kruzel, Professor of Communication at the University of South Florida. They discuss her personal path from watching breast cancer move through her family to testing positive for a hereditary mutation herself, the ART framework she developed for managing uncertainty, and the complexities of communicating genetic risk within families.
    Show Notes
    0:00 Intro to The Genetics Podcast
    00:59 Welcome to Marleah
    01:35 Marleah's family history of breast cancer across four generations
    02:48 Marleah's childhood living through her mother's five-year cancer battle
    04:26 Marleah's experience with genetic testing
    07:19 How a positive test result reshaped Marleah’s PhD research focus
    08:40 The central challenges of living with a positive test result 
    10:50 The ART framework for managing hereditary cancer uncertainty
    15:06 Applying the ART framework to Patrick’s experience with uncertainty and the importance of having a support system 
    19:53 Common misconceptions in how families communicate genetic risk
    23:54 The previvor identity and the chronic uncertainty it brings
    25:40 How Marleah has learned to accept and embrace uncertainty
    27:57 Balancing logic and emotion in hereditary cancer family planning
    31:28 How Marleah grounds her research tools in patients' lived experience
    33:21 How AI is eroding our capacity to sit with uncertainty
    35:57 Redesigning healthcare for a lifespan of genetic risk information
    38:10 Closing remarks
  • The Genetics Podcast

    EP 256: Cutting through the AI hype in drug discovery with Dave Hallett of Recursion

    10/09/2026 | 40 mins.
    This week on The Genetics Podcast, Patrick is joined by Dr. David Hallett, Chief Scientific Officer at Recursion. They discuss the biggest shifts in drug discovery over Dave's three-decade career, where AI is genuinely transforming the field today versus where the hype outruns the reality, and how Recursion's perturbational maps have uncovered and validated a novel neurodegeneration target.
    Show Notes
    0:00 Intro to The Genetics Podcast
    01:00 Welcome to Dave
    01:57 The biggest shifts in drug discovery over three decades
    06:39 Where AI is delivering real wins across drug discovery today
    12:19 How AI-assisted trial simulation reveals which eligibility criteria to relax
    14:46 The three biggest reasons drug programs fail in the clinic 
    18:20 How Recursion's perturbational maps uncover new drug targets
    24:58 A four-step framework for validating a novel drug target
    28:44 How Recursion balances deep therapeutic focus with partnership breadth
    30:52 Why AI can't shortcut clinical trials, and what proof of real impact looks like
    34:57 The skills scientists need most in the AI era, and why trusting AI outputs starts with trusting the data
    39:52 Closing remarks
    Find out more:
    Recursion (https://www.recursion.com/)
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    EP 255: Turning long-read sequencing into a routine part of clinical care with Danny Miller of the University of Washington

    03/09/2026 | 36 mins.
    This week on The Genetics Podcast, Patrick is joined by Dr. Danny Miller, Assistant Professor of Pediatrics and of Laboratory Medicine and Pathology at the University of Washington and Attending Physician at Seattle Children's Hospital. They discuss the case for making long-read sequencing the first genetic test every patient receives, the reference dataset his lab is building from the 1000 Genomes Project to resolve structural variants, publicly available methylation signatures as biomarkers for diagnosis and treatment response, and his vision for genome-informed care from newborn screening through the NICU.
    Show Notes
    0:00 Intro to The Genetics Podcast
    01:00 Welcome to Danny
    01:41 The case for long-read sequencing as first-line genetic testing
    02:52 Current barriers to wider use of long-read sequencing 
    04:14 Building a long-read reference dataset from 1000 Genomes for variant filtering
    06:47 How long-read sequencing can solve a missed diagnosis 
    08:12 The clinical case for complete telomere-to-telomere genomes
    10:39 What it will take to shift the clinical genetics status quo
    12:06 Making methylation signatures public to diagnose disease and track therapy
    15:58 Danny's path from programming and finance into clinical genetics
    18:19 Danny's lived experience with deafness and achondroplasia, and how it shapes his approach to genetic counseling
    21:46 Danny's optimism about AI in genomics and worry about AI in education
    27:15 The path to making genomes a routine part of the medical record
    29:47 The vision of same-day newborn genomic data guiding NICU treatment decisions
    34:31 Closing remarks
    Find out more:
    Miller Lab (https://millerlaboratory.com/)
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About The Genetics Podcast
Exploring all things genetics. Dr Patrick Short, University of Cambridge alumnus and CEO of Sano Genetics, analyses the science, interviews the experts, and discusses the latest findings and breakthroughs in genetic research. To find out more about Sano Genetics and its mission to accelerate the future of precision medicine visit: www.sanogenetics.com
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