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    Top Cop Who Revamped Gilgo Beach 'Demon' Probe Reflects On Rex Heurmann And Cracking The Case

    24/06/2026 | 51 mins.
    “A demon that walks among us.”

    That’s what former Suffolk County Police Commissioner Rodney Harrison said about Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heurmann during an announcement of the elusive suspect’s arrest in 2023.

    Harrison worked on numerous headline-grabbing investigations over a 30-year career in the NYPD as an investigator and top executive but he may best be known for orchestrating the law enforcement task force that finally led to Heurmann’s capture.

    In a Long Island courtroom last week, Heurmann received multiple life sentences without the option of parole after pleading guilty in April. There was no apology to offer the still-shaken family members who finally had a chance to share their accounts of devastation and torment with Heurmann.

    Harrison joins The Trial: USA this week with a behind-the-scenes account of the effort to close one of New York’s most memorable crime investigations. He recently authored “The Commissioner: From Street Cop to Top Cop in the NYPD, and the Inside Story of the Hunt for the Gilgo Beach Serial Killer.”

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    Presenter: Kayla Brantley
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    Karmelo Anthony Trial Deep-Dive: Part 2

    18/06/2026 | 45 mins.
    Karmelo Anthony’s lethal force against Austin Metcalf during a 2025 teenage track meet scuffle was not justified.

    That was the finding of the Texas jury in Anthony’s case last week. The same panel sentenced the 19-year-old to 35 years in prison for murder.

    Yet the conviction remains a topic of intense interest and controversy. It has been framed as a racial injustice by Anthony’s supporters despite testimony from a number of witnesses that he was not in danger.
    Metcalf, 17, another local athlete, died for nothing and the verdict was deserved, others say.

    In this episode, James Stainton, a district attorney from another county in the greater Dallas area, breaks down the law and how it applies.

    Stainton explains to The Trial: USA’s Kayla Brantley that the jury followed the law.

    Tune in for this in-depth analysis on Anthony’s case.
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    Editor: Chelsey Moore
    Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham
    Executive Producer: Jamie East

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    Karmelo Anthony Trial Deep-Dive: Part 1

    17/06/2026 | 56 mins.
    Karmelo Anthony’s murder trial happened in Texas but the case has triggered strong reactions from observers around the country.

    The 19-year-old’s legal team argued self-defense but witnesses told the jury that Anthony was never in danger. He was simply being asked to leave a private area belonging to a rival high school’s track squad.

    Daily Mail’s Texas Bureau Chief MaryAnn Martinez joins us this week to break down the evidence and dispel misinformation that has been amplified on social media. Unsubstantiated theories have circulated since April 2025, when 17-year-old Austin Metcalf was killed. He died in the arms of his twin brother.

    Anthony was found guilty of murder at his trial last week and was sentenced to 35 years in prison. The verdict has renewed accusations of racism from his supporters even as the jury rejected his justification defense.

    Tune into Martinez’s conversation with Kayla Brantley to learn what the evidence at trial revealed and what claims are not supported by fact.

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    Presenter: Kayla Brantley
    Producer: Shayna Jacobs and Lucy Robson
    Editor: Chelsey Moore
    Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham
    Executive Producer: Jamie East

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    ‘Cults’ and Cold Cases: A 2026 CrimeCon Recap

    10/06/2026 | 36 mins.
    Cartisha Morgan came to CrimeCon in the hopes of bringing attention to the case of her missing daughter and young grandchild, a toddler when she vanished. Morgan believes her daughter Ma’Kayla Wickerson bought into the teachings of a group that police have called a cult before disappearing with the tot from their Missouri home.

    Another family was at the event to ask to promote their campaign for answers. Christopher Abeyta, a 7-month-old, was stolen from his crib in Colorado Springs nearly 40 years ago. His family, including a niece he never met, wants police to focus on a woman who they believe may have gotten away with the crime. They hope that person can explain what happened to baby Christopher.

    The episode this week brings you a roundup of these stories and others from the Crime Desk team at CrimeCon 2026 in Las Vegas.

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    Presenter: Kayla Brantley
    Producers: Shayna Jacobs and Lucy Robson
    Editor: Chelsey Ranore
    Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham
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    Editor: Chelsey Moore
    Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham
    Executive Producer: Jamie East

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    Kaylee Goncalves’s Parents On Treating Killers 'Like The Animals That They Are'

    03/06/2026 | 36 mins.
    We share in this episode an in-depth conversation with the parents of Kaylee Concalves at CrimeCon 2026 in Las Vegas where they promoted the “Murder Has a Name” foundation started in their daughter’s honor to help other families find answers with the help of advanced DNA technology.

    Steve and Kristi Goncalves also discussed their family’s raw anger at killer Bryan Kohberger’s sentencing and the risk they decided to take to speak their minds unfiltered.
    ‘These guys need to be treated like the animals that they are,’ Steve Goncalves told the Mail. ‘If you're gonna behave like an animal, treat them like an animal.’

    The couple also discusses threats they've faced from supporters of Kohberger and the twisted logic his fans have used to challenge investigative facts, even though his criminal case resulted in Kohberger’s guilty plea last year.

    Kohberger was sentenced to four consecutive life sentences without parole for the 2022 slayings. Kaylee’s parents say he should have received nothing less than capital punishment.

    Join us for Daily Mail US Crime Correspondent Rachel Sharp’s full interview with the Goncalves parents.

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    Presenter: Kayla Brantley
    Producers: Shayna Jacobs and Lucy Robson
    Editor: Chelsey Ranore
    Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham
    Executive Producer: Jamie East

    Follow us on TikTok: @DailyMailCrime
    Email us: thetrial@dailymail.com
    WhatsApp us: +44 7796 657512 Start your message with Trial

    It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world.

    Follow us on TikTok: @DailyMailCrime
    Email us: thetrial@dailymail.com
    WhatsApp us: +44 7796 657512 Start your message with Trial

    Presenter: Kayla Brantley
    Producer: Shayna Jacobs and Lucy Robson
    Editor: Chelsey Moore
    Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham
    Executive Producer: Jamie East

    Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter.
    It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world.
    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Launched in the UK in 2022, The Trial is an award-winning, chart-topping podcast that goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts.The Trial series occasionally uses actors and some voices generated by AI. Their words are taken as verbatim from the official court transcript.For ad-free listening to all of our shows, exclusive bonus episodes of The Trial every week, and complete access to our show archives, subscribe to The Crime Desk now. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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