Built Different Podcast

At 34 years old, Michelle and Jono Harley have achieved what many Australians only dream about.
Their home is paid off, their investment properties have created financial freedom, and they've spent the last decade making disciplined decisions that transformed their future.
But this episode isn't really about property.
It's about why we build wealth in the first place.
After years of fertility struggles, IVF treatments, pregnancy complications, and the devastating loss of their son at 19 weeks, Michelle and Jono were forced to navigate one of life's hardest challenges.
What followed was an extraordinary family journey involving surrogacy, resilience, hope, and the determination to never give up on becoming parents.
In this deeply emotional conversation, Aaron Christie-David explores:
• Becoming mortgage-free at 34
• Building wealth through renovation and property investing
• IVF and fertility challenges
• Pregnancy loss and grief
• Surrogacy and family support
• Financial freedom and creating life choices
• Marriage, resilience and long-term success
This is one of the most powerful conversations ever shared on Built Different.
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After 265 episodes, we realised something important… the podcast had evolved beyond property.
Welcome to Built Different.
In this launch episode, Aaron Christie-David, Bernadette Christie-David, and Georgia Matts unpack the full story behind the rebrand from The Australian Property Investment Podcast into something much bigger.
This conversation dives into:
Why the old podcast name was limiting growth
The future vision behind Built Different
Wealth creation beyond property
Mindset, discipline, consistency, and elite performance
Business ambition and entrepreneurship
The realities behind success that people never see
Why financial stress impacts relationships
How successful couples build wealth together
The power of thinking bigger
We also talk about upcoming conversations with elite athletes, business founders, entrepreneurs, and high performers who are redefining success across sport, business, wealth, and life.
This isn’t just a podcast about interest rates and houses anymore.
It’s about the people who are built different.

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Former Gold Coast Titans player Matt Srama joins Built Different for an honest conversation about elite sport, identity, resilience, and building wealth after football.
After injuries forced an early end to his NRL career, Matt pivoted into property investing and entrepreneurship, building a portfolio of more than 20 properties while launching a successful Gold Coast buyer’s agency. But this episode goes far deeper than property.
Matt opens up about:
The sacrifices required to become a professional athlete
Why hard work always beats talent when talent stops working
The mental pressure of elite sport
Identity loss after retirement
How injuries changed the course of his life
Building wealth through property investing
Scaling a business after sport
The importance of grit, discipline, and self-belief
Why “your business is what you do, not who you are.”
The hidden “success tax” high performers pay
This is a powerful conversation about purpose, ambition, mindset, reinvention, and learning how to build a life beyond the jersey.
Whether you’re an athlete, investor, entrepreneur, or someone navigating a major life transition, this episode is packed with lessons that will stay with you long after it finishes.
Connect with Atelier Wealth
If you're looking to build a strategic property portfolio, the team at Atelier Wealth helps investors structure finance to grow long-term wealth through property.
Follow us on social media
@_builtdifferentpodcast
Book a strategy call:
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New episodes every Monday at 7AM.

Three of Australia’s most outspoken buyer's agents.One room. Zero filters.

In this special episode of Built Different, Aaron Christie-David sits down with Sam Gordon, Jack Henderson, and Dawn Fouhy for one of the most heated property investing debates we’ve ever recorded.

From blue-chip investing and cash flow strategy to Darwin vs Bronte, negative gearing, investor psychology, and the difference between investing as a “battler” versus investing from a position of wealth… nothing was off limits.

This episode dives deep into:
​Cash flow vs capital growth
​Buy & hold vs active portfolio recycling
​Rich vs battler investing strategies
​Property market psychology
​Investor fear and media narratives
​The future of Australian property investing
​Negative gearing changes
​How elite buyers agents actually think

Featuring:
​Sam Gordon – Australian Property Scout
​Jack Henderson – Henderson Advocacy
​Dawn Fouhy – Future Proof Property

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Sam GordonInstagram: @samgordonproperty
Australian Property Scout: https://australianpropertyscout.com.auSchool of Property: https://schoolofproperty.com.au
Jack HendersonInstagram: @jackchendersonHenderson Advocacy: https://hendersonadvocacy.com.au
Dawn FouhyInstagram: @futureproofpropertyFuture Proof Property: https://futureproofproperty.com.au
Connect with Atelier Wealth
If you're looking to build a strategic property portfolio, the team at Atelier Wealth helps investors structure finance to grow long-term wealth through property.
Follow us on social media@_builtdifferentpodcast
Book a strategy call:https://www.atelierwealth.com.au
Subscribe:Subscribe for weekly conversations with Australia’s top investors, entrepreneurs, and business leaders.
New episodes every Monday at 7 AM.

AFL veteran Taylor Adams joins the podcast for a raw conversation about professional sport, identity, resilience, property investing, and preparing for life after football.
Taylor shares stories from his journey through the Australian Football League, including his time with the Greater Western Sydney Giants, Collingwood Football Club, and Sydney Swans.
The episode explores:
Injuries and mental resilience
Dealing with criticism and pressure
Leadership and team culture
Transitioning from AFL into mortgage broking
Property investing and wealth creation
Fatherhood and identity shifts
Why discipline beats talent
Taylor also explains how he started investing in property at 21, why he chose finance after football, and the habits elite performers use to stay consistent under pressure.
A powerful episode about reinvention, mindset, and building a life beyond sport.

Connect with Atelier Wealth
If you're looking to build a strategic property portfolio, the team at Atelier Wealth helps investors structure finance to grow long-term wealth through property.
Book a strategy call:
https://www.atelierwealth.com.au

Subscribe:
Subscribe for weekly conversations with Australia’s top investors, entrepreneurs, and business leaders.
New episodes every Monday at 7 AM.

About Built Different:
Built Different is a podcast about wealth, property, mindset, performance, and the psychology behind elite success.
Hosted by Aaron Christie-David, each episode explores the habits, discipline, setbacks, and strategies that shape high performers across business, sport, investing, and life.
New episodes every Monday at 7 AM.

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