You’re Gonna Want To Hear This

Why do so many women wake up one day and feel like they want out? In this episode of You’re Gonna Want to Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with renowned psychoanalyst and bestselling author Stephen Grosz for a conversation about love, resentment, affairs, marriage, desire, emotional labour, and the complicated reality of trying to build a life with another person without losing yourself.
After more than 40 years inside the consulting room, and more than 75,000 hours listening to people talk about heartbreak, betrayal, longing and intimacy, Stephen has come to believe that love is not simply something we fall into. It is something we work at. Often, that work begins at the exact moment relationships stop feeling easy.
Together, Georgie and Stephen unpack why resentment can quietly poison even strong relationships, why contempt is often far more dangerous than anger, and why many people do not leave because they have stopped loving their partner, but because they no longer recognise themselves inside the relationship.
They also talk about affairs and what people are really searching for when they step outside a marriage, the emotional complexity of long-term love, the impact children can have on intimacy and desire, and why some couples emerge stronger after betrayal while others cannot recover.
Georgie opens up about her own experience with marriage counselling, co-parenting, and the small daily rituals that can soften even the hardest relationships.
This episode covers:
Why love requires labour
The resentment that can destroy relationships
Why contempt is often more dangerous than anger
The real psychology behind affairs
How children can change intimacy and desire
Why people leave because they dislike who they have become
The power of appreciation inside long-term relationships
What happiness in love can really look like
The line from Stephen that Georgie says “quietly rearranged the furniture” in her brain
Stephen Grosz is the author of The Examined Life and Love’s Labour.
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Credits:
Host: Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt
Edited by Charlie Potter
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
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What does it take to sit across from one of the world’s most powerful men… and not flinch? In this week’s episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Georgie McCourt sits down with legendary British broadcaster, journalist and author Emily Maitlis for a riveting conversation about career-defining interviews, the discipline of preparation, and why the best journalists never move on until they get an answer.
From the now-iconic Prince Andrew interview to covering revolutions, elections and some of the biggest global stories of our time, Emily reveals what was really going through her mind inside Buckingham Palace, why she locked herself in a bathroom moments before that interview… and how years of being underestimated as a “silly little girl” became her greatest strength.
She also opens up about motherhood in the public eye, the brutal early years of balancing young children with a high-pressure career, learning to lean into discomfort, and why women often become more powerful - - not less—as they get older.
Plus, Emily shares the one piece of advice every woman needs to hear right now.
In this episode, Emily shares:
Why great journalism is 80% preparation, 20% surrendering to chaos
The interview technique she swears by: “Don’t move on.”
What happened in the five minutes before the Prince Andrew interview
Why she never got angry sitting across from powerful men she believed weren’t telling the truth
How repetition, rejection and public mistakes built her confidence
The reality of raising children while living in the glare of public scrutiny
Why she feels more energised in her career now than ever before
Her next major investigation into the Epstein files
Her powerful message for women: “Choose your battles carefully… then fight for them.”
If you’ve ever struggled to ask the hard question, back yourself in a room full of powerful people, or wondered whether your best years are still ahead of you - this episode is for you.
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Emily Maitlis is the author of Airhead: The Imperfect Art of Making News and co-host of The News Agents.
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Credits:
Host Marie Claire Editor-in-Chief Georgie McCourt
Edited by Charlie Potter
Executive Producer Jessie-Lee Klass
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
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What happens when one of Australia’s most recognisable wellness voices, bestselling I Quit Sugar author and TED Talk speaker Sarah Wilson, stops talking about sugar and starts talking about the collapse of civilisation?
This week, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with journalist, author and activist Sarah Wilson for one of the most provocative conversations You’re Gonna Want To Hear This has aired yet, landing as Sarah launches her powerful new book, I Eat the Stars.
For more than a decade, Sarah has been researching what she calls collapse: the unravelling of the systems we’ve built around endless growth, convenience and consumption. In this deeply personal, often wildly funny and at times confronting conversation, she shares why she’s “broken up with hope,” why letting go of hope brought her relief, and why, despite everything she believes is coming, she says she’s never been happier.
In this conversation, Sarah Wilson joins marie claire editor Georgie McCourt to talk collapse, climate anxiety, AI, tech bros, motherhood, pregnancy loss, Paris, midlife reinvention, hiking, nature, philosophy, critical thinking and what it means to stay human in uncertain times.
This episode covers:
Why Sarah Wilson says “I’ve broken up with hope”
What collapse actually means and why Sarah believes we’re already living through it
Climate anxiety, burnout and how to live with uncertainty
AI, tech bros and why Sarah says “the robots aren’t coming”
Why young women should study philosophy, critical thinking and the humanities
The question many women are asking right now: should I still have children?
Why Sarah says the answer is “absolutely”
Pregnancy loss, motherhood, grief and finding peace with a different path
Moving to Paris before turning 50
French men, midlife reinvention and starting again
Hiking, nature, mental health and cathedral thinking
Sarah Wilson’s new book, I Eat the Stars
Sarah Wilson’s new book I Eat the Stars is out now.
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What actually gives women pleasure, and why are we still so bad at talking about it?
In this special Pleasure Issue episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron go inside the pages of the new issue, from the small joys that make life better to the bigger, messier conversations:
They unpack the orgasm gap, why women are still statistically being left behind when it comes to sexual satisfaction, dating after divorce, sex toys, long-term relationships, kissing, quitting friendships, hobbies that don’t make money, and the joy of yapping.
They also discuss Marie Claire’s May cover star Sarah Pidgeon, her role as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy in Ryan Murphy’s Love Story, the ongoing obsession with Carolyn and JFK Jr, and why Carolyn’s style, mystique and story still have such a hold on women.
This episode covers:
Marie Claire Australia’s Pleasure Issue
The orgasm gap and women’s sexual wellbeing
Dating after divorce
Sex toys, desire and long-term relationships
Why kissing still matters
Hobbies, friendship breakups and small pleasures
Sarah Pidgeon as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy
Ryan Murphy’s Love Story
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy and JFK Jr
Fashion, beauty, dermaplaning and sex dreams
Why women need to talk more openly about pleasure
The May issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Sarah Pidgeon, is on sale now.
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Hosts: Georgie McCourt and Mel Gaudron
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CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussion about abuse and trauma.
Maggie Walters has lived a life most people could barely comprehend.
Diagnosed in her twenties with Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder, Maggie came to understand that her mind had created different parts, or “alters”, to help her survive severe childhood trauma.
In her first book Split, Maggie shared the story of that trauma and introduced readers to “the girls”, the parts of her who protected her through experiences no child should ever have to endure.
Now, in her new book Fractured Motherhood, Maggie explores what came next: becoming a mother, adopting three children from the Philippines, and learning how to parent with love, courage and honesty while navigating DID, trauma and fear.
In this deeply powerful conversation, Maggie joins You’re Gonna Want To Hear This and tells Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt about what DID really is, why it is so misunderstood, how trauma shaped her childhood, and how motherhood helped her break a cycle of intergenerational harm.
This is not a story about being defined by trauma. It is a story about survival, hope, identity, parenting, and the extraordinary ways people find a path forward.
This episode covers:
* Maggie Walters’ diagnosis with Dissociative Identity Disorder / Multiple Personality Disorder
* What DID really feels like from the inside
* How childhood trauma can lead to dissociation
* Why Maggie calls her alters “the girls”
* Writing Split and Fractured Motherhood
* Adopting her three children from the Philippines
* The fear of passing trauma on to your children
* Mothering while navigating mental health challenges
* Breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma
* Why Maggie believes change and hope are always possible
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.
In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support, or Blue Knot Foundation on 1300 657 380 for support around complex trauma and childhood trauma.
Maggie Walters’ new book Fractured Motherhood is out now.
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