You’re Gonna Want To Hear This

CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers violence, death and sexual assault. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.
What does it mean to be a good man and what happens when we stop teaching boys that masculinity has to fit inside a box?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by writer, speaker and anti-violence campaigner Tarang Chawla for a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation about grief, masculinity, violence against women, the manosphere and what it means to create change.
Tarang is the founder of Not One More Nikki, an organisation named in memory of his sister Nikki, who was murdered by her husband in 2015 at just 23 years old. He opens up about Nikki’s life, the abuse and coercive control she experienced, the devastating impact of her death, and how grief ultimately became a catalyst for his work advocating for an Australia free from violence against women.
He reflects on the conversations we need to have with boys and men about power, empathy and accountability, and why “not all men” distracts from the more important question: what can men do to be part of the solution?
Tarang also explores the rise of the manosphere, and the online spaces drawing young men towards misogyny and unpacks the “Man Box” - the expectations that tell boys and men to be tough, dominant and unemotional.
Plus, Tarang shares the heartfelt message he would give to Nikki if she were here today, a deeply personal reflection on love, loss and the sibling bond they shared.
This is a conversation about grief, masculinity, accountability and what it takes to create meaningful change.
This episode covers:
Tarang Chawla on the death of his sister Nikki
Nikki’s story and the reality of coercive control
Turning grief into advocacy and action
Violence against women and men’s responsibility
Why “not all men” is a useless response
What men can do to be part of the solution
The rise of the manosphere and why young boys are drawn to online misogyny
The “Man Box” and expectations of masculinity
Accountability, bystander intervention and male friendship
Why “why doesn’t she just leave?” misses the point
Pauline Hanson’s comments on domestic violence
Challenging misogyny without turning away from boys and men
Grief, memory and living with the loss of Nikki
What Tarang wants men to understand about violence
Creating a healthier, more expansive idea of masculinity
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.
In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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What happens when you refuse to be defined by just one version of yourself?
This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Sabrina Dhowre Elba for a wide-ranging conversation about beauty, ambition, heritage, purpose and finding your own path.
Sabrina is a model, entrepreneur, beauty founder, activist, philanthropist and UN Goodwill Ambassador, but she’s also someone who has spent much of her life challenging the idea that women have to fit neatly into one box. She opens up about growing up in a Somali family in Canada, the influence of her mother Maryam, and how her heritage shaped the way she thinks about advocacy, philanthropy and representation.
She also talks about building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba, her husband, and the frustration with an industry that historically failed to properly cater to melanin-rich skin. Which ultimately lead to why she wanted to create a beauty brand that celebrates African ingredients and knowledge without making the product feel exclusive.
Sabrina also shares her hopes for changing the way the world talks about Africa, her work around agriculture and economic independence, and what she has learnt about using her platform to create long-term change. And, in a new chapter, she opens up about taking on her first lead film role, and what she discovered about herself while stepping into acting.
This is a conversation about identity, ambition, culture, purpose and the freedom to explore every side of yourself. As Sabrina puts it, her message is simple: don’t be afraid to explore different sides of yourself and just do the thing.
This episode covers:
Sabrina Dhowre Elba on refusing to be put in a box
Growing up in a Somali family in Canada
The influence of her mother, Maryam
Heritage, identity and representation
Building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba
Creating more inclusive skincare
African botanicals and traditional knowledge
The realities of self-funding a beauty brand
Purpose, philanthropy and meaningful impact
Changing the way the world talks about Africa
Agriculture, climate change and economic independence
Marriage, partnership and working with Idris
Sabrina's first lead film role
Why you should never be afraid to explore different sides of yourself
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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What does it mean to define yourself when so much of your life has been shaped by other people's expectations?
This week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by actress Adrianne Palicki for an intimate conversation about growing up in Hollywood, finding your voice, and the women she's played who have stayed with audiences long after the cameras stopped rolling.
Nearly 20 years after Friday Night Lights first premiered, Adrianne reflects on the enduring legacy of Tyra Collette, a character who spent much of the series being underestimated and defined by others, before finally choosing to imagine a different future for herself. As the show celebrates its anniversary, Adrianne talks about reconnecting with the cast and fans, why Tyra's famous college essay still resonates with her, and the extraordinary messages she's received from women whose lives were changed by the character.
She also opens up about navigating Hollywood as a woman, from being judged by appearances and underestimated early in her career, to the pressure to be strong, likeable and youthful.
Adrianne also speaks about her new indie drama Due West, reuniting with fellow Friday Night Lights alumni and playing a woman forced to take control of her future when the systems around her fail. She discusses the power of independent filmmaking, the stories she wants to tell about women, and why she's drawn to characters who refuse to be defined by their circumstances.
This is a conversation about ambition, resilience, identity, ageing, rejection and reinvention, and what happens when you stop asking other people who you're supposed to be.
This episode covers:
Adrianne Palicki on the enduring legacy of Friday Night Lights
Why Tyra Collette still resonates with women nearly 20 years later
The Friday Night Lights 20th anniversary and reconnecting with the cast
The importance of Tyra's “define myself” college essay
Being underestimated and finding your own sense of possibility
Growing up and finding your way in Hollywood
Being a woman in an industry obsessed with youth and appearance
Rejection, ambition and redefining success
Ageing and finding freedom in your 40s
Adrianne's new film Due West
Reuniting with Friday Night Lights alumni on Due West
Producing Texas Forever: The Legacy of Friday Night Lights
What it means to define yourself on your own terms
You can watch Due West on Apple TV
Friday Night Lights 20th Anniversary Roadshow: www.plex.tv/friday-night-lights-roadtrip
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What does it really take to maintain friendships as an adult, and why do we feel like failures when they fade?
In this special Friendship Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron go inside the pages of the new issue, from the small joys of catching up to the bigger, messier questions we're all asking:
They unpack the emotional labor of adult friendship, whether venting is a form of emotional misconduct or essential intimacy, the seven-year friendship statistic, what to do when you don't like a friend's partner, and the guilt of being the "bad friend." They also discuss "teen-ternity leave" — the phenomenon of mothers stepping back from careers when their kids become teenagers — and the very real cost to women's income, superannuation, and career progression.
They also cover Marie Claire's cover star Hannah Waddingham, Ted Lasso season four, her four-octave vocal range, perimenopause journey and why women's careers getting better in their 50s is something to celebrate.
This episode covers:
Marie Claire Australia's Friendship Issue Hannah Waddingham cover story
Ted Lasso season four
The emotional labor of adult friendship
Do friendships have to last forever?
Am I a bad friend?
When love takes over and friendships fall by the wayside
In defense of venting
Teen-ternity leave and the cost to women's careers
Perimenopause, body image, and women in their 50s
Why friendship is oxygen for the soul
The May issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Hannah Waddingham, is on sale now.
Further reading from the August Issue:
Hannah Waddingham On Ted Lasso’s New Season, Fame & Friendship
Would You Take Time Off From Your Career To Go On Teen-ternity Leave?
If you want to read more of the featured stories, including In Defence of Venting by Bek Day and Best Friends Forever? By Alexandra English grab yourself a copy of the issue!

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Can starting over at 50 lead to the happiest chapter of your life?
Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to fashion entrepreneur and style icon Tash Sefton about finding love again, turning 50, and the new life she never expected to build.
Tash opens up about meeting her husband Adam and the unexpected way love entered her life after divorce. She talks candidly about self-sabotage, learning to accept kindness after being hurt, and why she believes love often arrives when you stop looking for it. She reflects on the moment she realised she had created an entirely new life for herself — and why she now sees starting again as something she would highly recommend.
Tash also talks about turning 50, the anxiety she felt about the milestone and the beautiful way her friends and family helped her embrace it. Rather than seeing 50 as an ending, she began to recognise it as the beginning of a new chapter: one filled with love, friendship, purpose and a renewed sense of self.
The conversation turns to style and the reason behind her business, Where Did Your Style Go? Tash explores why so many women lose touch with their personal style as their lives change, and why getting dressed should be about feeling like yourself rather than following trends. She shares her approach to building a wardrobe around classics, mixing vintage with contemporary pieces, and helping women understand their own style, while also discussing her relationship with social media and why authenticity matters more than chasing followers.
This is a conversation about reinvention, identity, love and the freedom that can come with getting older. As Tash discovers, sometimes the life you build after everything changes can be even better than the one you thought you were meant to have.
This episode covers:
Finding love again after divorce
Meeting Adam and learning to trust a new relationship
Self-sabotage and the fear of getting hurt again
Why love can arrive when you stop looking for it
Turning 50 and confronting the anxiety around ageing
The friendships that helped her embrace a new chapter
Starting a new life and choosing happiness
Why women can lose their sense of style as their lives change
The philosophy behind Where Did Your Style Go?
Building a wardrobe around classics rather than trends
Mixing vintage, contemporary fashion and personal style
Helping women rediscover who they are through what they wear
Using social media as a tool rather than letting it control you
Why she only promotes products she genuinely believes in
What success, happiness and purpose mean in this chapter of her life

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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
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With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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