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What happens when one of Australia’s most recognisable wellness voices, bestselling I Quit Sugar author and TED Talk speaker Sarah Wilson, stops talking about sugar and starts talking about the collapse of civilisation?
This week, marie claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with journalist, author and activist Sarah Wilson for one of the most provocative conversations You’re Gonna Want To Hear This has aired yet, landing as Sarah launches her powerful new book, I Eat the Stars.
For more than a decade, Sarah has been researching what she calls collapse: the unravelling of the systems we’ve built around endless growth, convenience and consumption. In this deeply personal, often wildly funny and at times confronting conversation, she shares why she’s “broken up with hope,” why letting go of hope brought her relief, and why, despite everything she believes is coming, she says she’s never been happier.
In this conversation, Sarah Wilson joins marie claire editor Georgie McCourt to talk collapse, climate anxiety, AI, tech bros, motherhood, pregnancy loss, Paris, midlife reinvention, hiking, nature, philosophy, critical thinking and what it means to stay human in uncertain times.
This episode covers:
Why Sarah Wilson says “I’ve broken up with hope”
What collapse actually means and why Sarah believes we’re already living through it
Climate anxiety, burnout and how to live with uncertainty
AI, tech bros and why Sarah says “the robots aren’t coming”
Why young women should study philosophy, critical thinking and the humanities
The question many women are asking right now: should I still have children?
Why Sarah says the answer is “absolutely”
Pregnancy loss, motherhood, grief and finding peace with a different path
Moving to Paris before turning 50
French men, midlife reinvention and starting again
Hiking, nature, mental health and cathedral thinking
Sarah Wilson’s new book, I Eat the Stars
Sarah Wilson’s new book I Eat the Stars is out now.
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Credits:Host: Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourtEdited by: Charlie PotterExecutive Producer: Jessie-Lee KlassHead of Vodcasting: Rachel Fountain
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What actually gives women pleasure, and why are we still so bad at talking about it?
In this special Pleasure Issue episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron go inside the pages of the new issue, from the small joys that make life better to the bigger, messier conversations:
They unpack the orgasm gap, why women are still statistically being left behind when it comes to sexual satisfaction, dating after divorce, sex toys, long-term relationships, kissing, quitting friendships, hobbies that don’t make money, and the joy of yapping.
They also discuss Marie Claire’s May cover star Sarah Pidgeon, her role as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy in Ryan Murphy’s Love Story, the ongoing obsession with Carolyn and JFK Jr, and why Carolyn’s style, mystique and story still have such a hold on women.
This episode covers:
Marie Claire Australia’s Pleasure Issue
The orgasm gap and women’s sexual wellbeing
Dating after divorce
Sex toys, desire and long-term relationships
Why kissing still matters
Hobbies, friendship breakups and small pleasures
Sarah Pidgeon as Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy
Ryan Murphy’s Love Story
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy and JFK Jr
Fashion, beauty, dermaplaning and sex dreams
Why women need to talk more openly about pleasure
The May issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Sarah Pidgeon, is on sale now.
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CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains discussion about abuse and trauma.
Maggie Walters has lived a life most people could barely comprehend.
Diagnosed in her twenties with Dissociative Identity Disorder, formerly known as Multiple Personality Disorder, Maggie came to understand that her mind had created different parts, or “alters”, to help her survive severe childhood trauma.
In her first book Split, Maggie shared the story of that trauma and introduced readers to “the girls”, the parts of her who protected her through experiences no child should ever have to endure.
Now, in her new book Fractured Motherhood, Maggie explores what came next: becoming a mother, adopting three children from the Philippines, and learning how to parent with love, courage and honesty while navigating DID, trauma and fear.
In this deeply powerful conversation, Maggie joins You’re Gonna Want To Hear This and tells Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt about what DID really is, why it is so misunderstood, how trauma shaped her childhood, and how motherhood helped her break a cycle of intergenerational harm.
This is not a story about being defined by trauma. It is a story about survival, hope, identity, parenting, and the extraordinary ways people find a path forward.
This episode covers:
* Maggie Walters’ diagnosis with Dissociative Identity Disorder / Multiple Personality Disorder
* What DID really feels like from the inside
* How childhood trauma can lead to dissociation
* Why Maggie calls her alters “the girls”
* Writing Split and Fractured Motherhood
* Adopting her three children from the Philippines
* The fear of passing trauma on to your children
* Mothering while navigating mental health challenges
* Breaking cycles of intergenerational trauma
* Why Maggie believes change and hope are always possible
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.
In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support, or Blue Knot Foundation on 1300 657 380 for support around complex trauma and childhood trauma.
Maggie Walters’ new book Fractured Motherhood is out now.
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For more than a decade, journalist and activist Sherele Moody has been documenting the stories too often reduced to statistics - every known Australian woman and child killed by violence.
Through Australian Femicide Watch and the Red Heart Movement, her work has become a powerful, living record - one that ensures these lives are seen, named and never forgotten. But this isn’t just advocacy for Sherele, it’s very personal.
In this deeply confronting and essential conversation, Sherele joins You’re Gonna Want To Hear This to share the story that changed her life - the moment she discovered her stepfather was responsible for the murder of two young girls. A revelation that would go on to shape her life’s work.
From a childhood marked by abuse and instability, to building one of the most significant databases of violence against women in Australia, Sherele speaks with unflinching honesty about trauma, survival, and the cost of speaking out.
She also unpacks the systemic failures that continue to put women at risk - and why the question isn’t why women stay, but why it remains so difficult to leave.
This episode covers:
The personal story behind Sherele’s activism
The reality of femicide in Australia - and what the numbers miss
Why domestic violence systems are failing women
The emotional toll of documenting over 3,000 deaths
How community, connection and action can drive change
If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available.
In Australia, contact 1800RESPECT (1800 737 732) or Lifeline (13 11 14).
To find out more about Sherele's work, go to australianfemicidewatch.org
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For decades, Lisa Wilkinson has been one of the most recognisable and trusted voices in Australian media - asking the questions, shaping the national conversation, and, at times, carrying the weight of the stories she tells. But in this episode of You’re Gonna Want To Hear This, she turns the lens inward.
Lisa joins Georgie McCourt for a candid conversation about what it really takes to build - and sustain - a career at the highest level. From backing her instincts early on (including taking a chance on a then-unknown Nicole Kidman), to walking away at pivotal moments, she reflects on the risks, reinventions and resilience that have defined her path.
She also opens up about motherhood, self-doubt, and the pressure many women carry - even at the height of success. At the centre of the conversation is her new book The Titanic Story of Evelyn - a deeply researched work of historical non-fiction uncovering the story of Evelyn Marsden, the only Australian-born survivor of the Titanic. What began as curiosity quickly became something more personal - a story Lisa felt compelled to tell.
This is a conversation about instinct, evolution, and never standing still.
In this episode:
Why Lisa says “none of it was guaranteed”
The career risks that shaped her path
The decision to step away - and what it taught he
Motherhood, ambition and self-doubt
The story of Evelyn Marsden - and why it stayed with her
What it really means to keep evolving
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