You’re Gonna Want To Hear This

What happens when caring for the people who once cared for you becomes one of the biggest challenges of your life?
This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by broadcaster, journalist and bestselling author Sarah Macdonald for an honest conversation about ageing parents, motherhood, work, grief, guilt and the invisible weight carried by so many women.
Sarah is part of Australia's sandwich generation, caring for her 92-year-old mother and 94-year-old mother-in-law while navigating family life and a demanding media career. She opens up about the reality of caring for ageing parents, from managing the practical and emotional load to the moments of frustration, grief and unexpected joy that come with watching the people who raised you grow older.
The conversation also explores what it means to be part of the sandwich generation: raising children, caring for ageing parents, maintaining a career and trying to hold onto a life of your own. Sarah shares why women need more recognition, support and honest conversations around caregiving, and why simply hearing the words "you're doing a great job" can mean so much.
This episode covers:
Sarah Macdonald on life in the sandwich generation
Caring for ageing parents while raising a family
The invisible mental load of caregiving
Balancing motherhood, work and caring responsibilities
The impact of caregiving on women's careers
The career opportunities Sarah had to let go
Advocating for her father at the end of his life
The grief and guilt that comes with watching parents age
The emotional and practical realities of unpaid care
The importance of simply saying "you're doing a great job"
How women can prepare for their parents getting older
Finding moments of joy while caring for ageing parents
What Australia needs to do differently for unpaid carers
Why the sandwich generation is one of the defining issues facing women today
You can find Sarah's podcast Club Sandwich here
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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What does life really look like after becoming one of the world's most famous supermodels?
This week Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Miranda Kerr for an intimate conversation about motherhood, co-parenting, building a global beauty empire, and the personal experiences that shaped the woman behind the headlines. From becoming Australia's first Victoria's Secret Angel to founding KORA Organics, Miranda reflects on the career, family and values that continue to define her today.
She opens up about growing up in country Australia, becoming famous in her twenties, navigating life under intense public scrutiny, and finding peace after the end of her marriage to Orlando Bloom. She also speaks candidly about raising four boys, co-parenting in a modern blended family, and how she met her husband, Snapchat founder Evan Spiegel.
Miranda also reflects on the deeply personal experience that inspired her to launch KORA Organics. After her mother was diagnosed with tumours when Miranda was a teenager, she became passionate about nutrition, wellness and certified organic skincare, long before the wellness industry became what it is today. More than 15 years later, KORA Organics is sold in over 30 countries, with Miranda still personally involved in everything from product development to ingredient sourcing.
This is a conversation about ambition, resilience, family, forgiveness and what success looks like beyond the runway. Miranda also shares the wellness rituals she genuinely swears by, the biohacks she believes are worth the hype, how her priorities have changed since turning 43, and why looking after yourself starts from the inside out.
This episode covers:
Miranda Kerr on life beyond modelling
Becoming Australia's first Victoria's Secret Angel
Building KORA Organics into a global beauty brand
The family health scare that changed her life
Motherhood and raising four boys
Co-parenting with Orlando Bloom
Marriage, family life and Evan Spiegel
Fame, forgiveness and finding perspective
Wellness routines and biohacks that actually work
Turning 43 and redefining success
Growing up in regional Australia
Why authenticity has become her greatest strength
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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What if the most dangerous moment in an abusive relationship isn't staying, it's trying to leave?
As Australia continues to grapple with the national crisis of domestic violence and violence against women, this week on You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt speaks with Nicole Yade, CEO of the Women and Girls Emergency Centre, whose own experience surviving family violence and coercive control has shaped decades of frontline advocacy for women and children escaping abuse.
Before Nicole dedicated her life to helping others find safety, she was a child growing up in a home ruled by fear. As an adult, despite promising herself she'd never repeat the cycle, she found herself in an abusive relationship of her own. At 24, she fled with her five-month-old baby, leaving behind violence and stepping into homelessness because staying was no longer safe.
In this deeply personal conversation, Nicole shares why leaving an abusive relationship is far more complicated than people often believe. She unpacks domestic violence nd the invisible barriers that keep women trapped, while drawing on decades of experience supporting victim-survivors on the frontline.
This is a conversation about survival, resilience and rebuilding a life after trauma. Nicole also explains why domestic violence services are at breaking point and what needs to change to better protect women and children.
If you or anyone else you know is experiencing domestic, family or sexual violence, support is available. You can call 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732
JOIN THE WALK TO END VIOLENCE. Walk for WAGEC details here, Centennial Park Sydney, Sunday 13th September 2026.
This episode covers:
Growing up in a home shaped by domestic violence
Why leaving an abusive relationship is far more complex than people realise
Coercive control and the invisible tactics that keep women trapped
Breaking the cycle of family violence across generations
Escaping abuse as a 24-year-old with a five-month-old baby and experiencing homelessness
The realities of rebuilding life after domestic violence
How children are impacted by living with family violence
The critical work of the Women and Girls Emergency Centre (WAGEC)
Why frontline domestic violence services remain overwhelmed
What recovery and healing really look like after trauma
Why domestic violence can happen to anyone
The role men can play in preventing violence against women
Challenging the question, "Why doesn't she just leave?"
A message of hope for victim-survivors rebuilding their lives

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Host Georgie McCourt
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Continuing from part one, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt talks to designer Bianca Spender about how she protects her creative energy while running an 18-year-old Australian luxury label: splitting her days into “creative time” and “business time,” and why her most productive hours are between 5pm and 2am, once the emails stop.
Bianca describes the Bianca Spender aesthetic in her own words: clothes built around freedom and movement, designed to make women feel completely themselves, or better yet, want to dance. She also shares why she kept two skin cancer diagnoses private for years, and why launching her first swimwear collection and sun care campaign felt like the right moment to speak about it publicly, including how two separate conversations with friends led her to catch both cancers early.
In the second half of this episode, Bianca reflects on some of the most defining moments of her life: the sudden and very public loss of her mother, and the loss of her father eighteen months later. She talks about the advice on grief that has stayed with her since: “it never leaves, it just visits less frequently,” and how grief reshaped her sense of courage and self-forgiveness. She closes with how she protects her time through boundaries with technology, her “swimming epiphanies,” and a final message for anyone listening: trust yourself.
This episode covers:
Protecting her creative energy by separating “creative days” from “business days”
Why her most creative hours are 5pm to 2am, once the world switches off
The Bianca Spender aesthetic: designing clothes meant to free the body and “make you dance”
Going public with two skin cancer diagnoses after years of privacy
Launching her first swimwear collection and sun care campaign
Navigating the sudden, very public loss of her mother
Living with grief as an ongoing companion: “it never leaves, it just visits less frequently”
Finding courage and self-forgiveness in the wake of loss
Protecting her time with boundaries around technology
Her “swimming epiphanies” and other ways she switches off
A closing message to trust yourself
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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
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What does it take to earn your place in one of Australia's most famous fashion families?
This is part one of a two-part conversation. Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with designer Bianca Spender to talk about growing up as the daughter of fashion icon Carla Zampatti. Bianca takes us back to her childhood: sharing a bedroom with her sister, now-federal MP Allegra Spender, the strip of masking tape that kept the peace between them, and discovering, decades later, that dyslexia ran through three generations of her family.
She reflects on the lessons learned at the “School of Mum”: working in the family business from age nine, learning to say yes to everything, and what she only came to understand about her mother's leadership after becoming a parent and business owner herself. Bianca is candid about mum guilt, treating the business as her “first child,” and the four years she spent working in Paris, deliberately choosing a place where nobody knew her mother's name, so she could prove her own worth.
She also opens up about the strict terms under which she finally joined the family label: one season, three months, twenty pieces, and an agreement that she would leave if the collection failed to sell. It's the story of how “the market decides” became the clearest and kindest way for Bianca to earn her own place, separate from her mother's approval, and how that same conviction led her to launch her namesake label.
Part two continues the conversation with Bianca's creative process, her aesthetic, two skin cancer diagnoses, the loss of her mother, and what she's learned about living with grief - it's live right now in your podcast app!
This episode covers:
Sharing a room with her sister, now-federal MP Allegra Spender, and the masking tape down the middle
Discovering dyslexia ran through three generations of her family
Working in the family business from age nine instead of watching TV
What she only understood about her mother after becoming a parent herself
Wrestling with mum guilt, and treating the business as her “first child”
Moving to Paris for four years to prove her worth entirely outside her mother's name
Earning her place in the family label through a strict “market decides” trial
The moment her own namesake label found its own space
Finding the confidence to trust her own aesthetic, even when it meant disagreeing with her mother

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Credits:
Host Georgie McCourt
Edited by Helen Smith
Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain
With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire
You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media.
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