Better Than Yesterday with Osher Günsberg

What does it mean to be a great leader in 2026?
In age of cost-cutting and focus on the bottom line, it might just mean focussing on the human elements of your business.
In this powerful conversation, former executive, author and founding director of R U OK? Graeme Cowan joins me to unpack the truth about leadership, mental health, and what it takes to build high-performing teams without burning people out.
Graeme knows what he's talking about because he lived through it. He went from leading at the highest levels of global business to experiencing a five-year battle with severe depression. Now Graeme is sharing the hard-earned lessons that reshaped his life and his definition of success.
Graeme explores how leaders can create cultures of care, why psychological safety drives performance, and the small daily actions that can quite literally change (or even save) a life.
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LINKS
Graeme's book 'Great Leaders Care' is available now
Read more about Graeme here
Listen to Graeme's podcast The Caring CEO
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So, do you really love Animals? Or do you really love to hate people?
It's a question sparked from a recent experience I had on social media after posting a clip from my interview with comedian Daniel Sloss. And let's just say some of the comments really surprised me.
In this episode, I'm delving into human behaviour, especially in the age of online outrage, and whether we are truly driven by our values, or by the emotional payoff of being 'right'? Plus a look at why supposedly 'progressive' movements sometimes push away their own supporters.
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Listen to the full interview with Daniel Sloss here
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Natalie Bassingthwaighte is an icon of the Australian entertainment industry. Best known for fronting dance act Rogue Traders (plus her stellar solo career) and playing troublemaker Izzy Hoyland on Neighbours, Natalie also has an extensive musical theatre background. But more recently, it's her personal life that has taken centre stage.
In this deeply honest and wide-ranging conversation, Natalie joins me to unpack the realities behind living life in the spotlight — from rejection and self-doubt to relationships and identity.
Natalie shares what it really takes to survive and stay grounded in an industry where people are easily overlooked and dismissed, and how her relationship with herself has evolved through career highs, personal loss, and major life transitions. From being told she’d never make it at 16, to navigating fame, online criticism, and burnout, this episode is a powerful look at resilience in action.
Nat and I dive into the mental health tools that actually help — including therapy, meditation, and learning how to interrupt negative thought spirals — and why success alone doesn’t fix how you feel inside. We also explore the complexity of relationships including co-parenting and separation, and the courage it takes to live truthfully, even when it’s messy, misunderstood and open to criticism.
If anyone embodies resilience and determination in Australia's entertainment industry, it's Natalie Bassingthwaighte. I know you'll enjoy this chat, and her book is a cracker.
LINKS
Grab a copy of Nat's book 'Love Like This' here
Check out the audiobook here
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Check out brand new Rogue Traders music and tour dates
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Daniel Sloss Gets Brutally Honest About Fatherhood and Becoming Bitter
When Australian Idol's Wes Carr Picked Up A Shovel It Changed What Happens When He Picks Up A Guitar
Connecting Communities Through Creativity with Diesel (aka Mark Lizotte)
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There's no denying that we’re living in a time where misinformation spreads faster than ever, and shared reality is breaking down.
But what if the biggest threat to society isn’t the misinformation, but our relationship with truth itself?
In this powerful conversation, Osher Günsberg sits down with behavioural expert and author Dom Thurbon to unpack why humans lie, how beliefs are formed, and why facts alone rarely change our minds.
From climate anxiety and AI-generated misinformation to vaccine debates and identity-driven beliefs, this episode dives deep into the psychology of truth in a world where reality feels increasingly unstable.
Learn why many people don’t respond to logic, how 'ease' often drives behaviour more than truth, and what it actually takes to create honest conversations in your relationships, your work, and society at large.
LINKS
Grab a copy of Dom's book 'To Be Honest...' here
More from Dom here
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Professor Alistair Sproul has been building solar technology since the 1980s. As head of the School of Photovoltaic and Renewable Energy Engineering at UNSW, he's watched Australia lead the world in solar adoption often without realising it.
As the nation, and indeed the rest of the world, grapples with a mounting energy crisis and growing oil prices, I thought it would be a great time to revisit my chat with Alistair and his insights into Australia's transition towards renewable energy.
That transition isn't coming. It's already here. And it's happening faster than anyone in Canberra is telling you.
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Listen to the full interview with Prof. Alistair Sproul here
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