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In this episode, Dr. Zena Assaad interviews Dr. Klaudia Klonowska about the legality of targeting data centers in armed conflict, especially in the context of recent Middle East conflicts. They explore international law, dual-use technology, and the implications for civilian harm and military strategy.
The contents of this episode are based on an article written for Just Security by our guest Klaudia Klonowska in collaboration with Michael Schmitt. You can read their article here: https://www.justsecurity.org/133685/iranian-attacks-amazon-data-centers-legal-analysis/
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🌐Website: https://www.sciencespo.fr/ecole-droit/en/directory/klonowska-klaudia/
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In this episode of the Responsible Bytes podcast, Dr. Zena Assaad speaks with Simon Chesterman, a law professor at the National University of Singapore, about the shifting power dynamics in AI regulation. They discuss the challenges of regulating fast-moving technology, the perspectives of techno utopians, dystopians, and pragmatists, and the impact of organised users. The conversation also touches on the marketing agenda behind AI, lessons from China's regulatory approach, and the purpose of regulation in addressing market inefficiencies and social values.
Links from this episode:
🔗Simon's article in Rest of World: https://restofworld.org/2026/ai-government-regulation-tech-giants/
🔗Simon's book on AI regulation: https://www.amazon.com.au/We-Robots-Regulating-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1009332074
🔗The Social Control of Technology by David Collingridge: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/abs/social-control-of-technology-by-david-collingridge-new-york-st-martins-press-1980-pp-i-200-2250/648B7ECDDB00120BCAB13F17E4076C08
🔗AI Needs you by Verity Harding: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691244877/ai-needs-you?srsltid=AfmBOoqO3y7-aL7y0jcmh5hPFM1VNNdYc-zMevRgJHf4QpD3WJMfZgcl
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In this episode of the Responsible Bytes podcast, host Dr. Zena Assaad speaks with Branka Marijan, a senior researcher at Project Ploughshares, about the concept of 'trust by design' in military AI. They explore the importance of trust in technology, the interdependence of nations, and the role of middle powers in shaping regulations. The conversation also delves into the balance between technical and non-technical perspectives in technology discussions, the long-term impacts of AI in warfare, and the significance of confidence-building measures in fostering trust among nations. Branka emphasises the need for educated skepticism towards technology and the importance of understanding the broader context in which it is used.
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📘LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brankamarijan/
🌐Website: https://ploughshares.ca/branka-marijan/
🔗Branka's policy brief on trust by design for military AI: https://www.cigionline.org/publications/trust-by-design-ai-in-military-applications/
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In this episode of the Responsible Bytes podcast, our host Dr Zena Assaad sits down with Dr Yasmin Afina to discuss the Roundtable for AI Security and Ethics (RAISE). The conversation explores the tension between ethics and national security, particularly in the context of implementing responsible AI. It also highlights the challenges faced by small and medium enterprises in operationalising ethical AI. 
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📘LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yasminafina/
🌐To learn more about RAISE: https://unidir.org/raise/
🌐RAISE policy brief: https://unidir.org/publication/governance-of-artificial-intelligence-in-the-military-domain-a-multi-stakeholder-perspective-on-priority-areas/
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In this episode, our host Dr Zena Assaad is joined by Alison Kershaw, an award winning science communicator. The conversation explores the challenges of science communication in an age of generative AI. Together they unpack the layered marketing behind artificial intelligence and why its promises resonate so widely. From claims about productivity and economic growth to the sweeping narratives that shape public perception, they explore how AI is being sold to us and why that matters. They also delve into the limitations of generative AI, such as ChatGPT, in science communication and explain why critical thinking is so important.
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