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    Indigenous Ways of Knowing: Dr. Leroy Little Bear

    22/01/2026 | 56 mins.
    Blackfoot scholar Dr. Leroy Little Bear shares foundational Indigenous ways of knowing—revealing a worldview built on energy, motion, and relationship rather than matter, time, and separation.In this conversation, Little Bear illuminates how Blackfoot philosophy understands reality through "interpretive templates"—cultural lenses shaped by language, land, and cosmology. Where Western thought centers singularity and fixed answers, Blackfoot ways embrace flux, transformation, and "all my relations."

    Dr. Leroy Little Bear is a Blackfoot legal scholar, professor emeritus, and prominent Indigenous rights advocate from the Blood Tribe. He is a founding member of the Native American Studies Department at the University of Lethbridge, served as the director of the Harvard University Native American Program, and played a crucial role in shaping Canadian constitutional law to recognize Indigenous rights, including contributing to Section 35 of the Constitution Act. His work extends to international advocacy, advising the United Nations on the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, and he has received numerous honors, such as the Order of Canada and the Alberta Order of Excellence.

    Topics


    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:45 Guest Introduction: Dr. Leroy Little Bear

    01:42 Blackfoot Tradition and Identity

    02:59 Western vs. Blackfoot Worldview

    10:15 Energy Forces and Relationships

    27:39 Impact of Colonization

    34:26 Language and Interpretive Templates

    54:38 Closing Remarks and Gratitude

    Explore more in Indigenous Worldviews in the SAND film Series The Eternal Song

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    Healing with Songlines: Joe Williams & Dr. (Uncle) Paul Gordon

    15/01/2026 | 1h
    This episode was recorded live at The Eternal Song Film Gathering in 2025. Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo welcome Dr. (Uncle) Paul Gordon and Joe Williams, featured in the upcoming SAND Film In the Circle of Life premiering January 20, 2026. In this conversation they discuss the profound importance of connection to the land, cultural heritage, and traditional practices in achieving wellness. The conversation reveals how Indigenous wisdom can address modern societal woes and highlights the importance of respecting and maintaining a deep relationship with the natural world.

    Topics

    00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview

    00:47 Meet Uncle Paul Gordon

    01:59 Language and Cultural Connections

    03:01 Introducing Joe Williams

    16:26 Joe Williams' Journey and Spiritual Awakening

    22:07 Aboriginal Perspectives on Wellbeing and Grief

    26:23 Understanding Time and Connection to Country

    29:40 Ancient Knowledge and Star Stories

    30:50 Connection to Country and Ancestral Wisdom

    44:25 The Role of Ceremony and Responsibility

    52:22 Healing Through Connection to Nature

    57:55 Final Thoughts and Resources

    Resources

    In the Circle of Life

    The Living Country Community

    Recorded live at The Eternal Song Seven Day Film Premiere summit with Indigenous voices

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    Dispatches Through the Rubble: Haidar Eid & Ashira Darwish

    08/01/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    From a recent SAND Community Gathering (December 2025). This urgent conversation, facilitated by Ashira Darwish and rooted in Haidar Eid’s new book Banging on the Walls of the Tank, moves through the fractured present of Gaza, bringing forth a chorus of resistance, mourning, refusal, and clarity.



    This is a dispatch from within the rubble, the classroom, the lull between airstrikes. Together. Eid and Darwish hold the line inside the unbearable: the grief of ongoing genocide and the insistence on liberation; the impossibility of hope and the necessity of imagining otherwise.



    Their conversation refuses erasure, insists on dignity, and carries the clarity of those living under siege with purpose and memory intact.



    This conversation carries the vibration of Gaza’s resistance outward, inviting listeners not just to witness, but to respond.

    Topics

    00:00 Introduction and Opening Remarks

    00:58 Context of the Gaza Genocide

    02:23 Introducing Haidar Eid and Ashira Darwish

    02:32 Haidar Eid's Background and Experience

    03:19 Ashira Darwish's Introduction and Role

    05:42 Haidar Eid's Personal Account of the Genocide

    07:17 The Impact of the Genocide on Haidar's Life

    09:51 Tribute to Fallen Colleagues and Students

    11:55 The Importance of Palestinian Narratives

    14:57 Historical Context and Ongoing Genocide

    27:34 The Human Cost and Personal Stories

    29:00 Protecting Stories and Dignity

    29:40 Understanding Israeli Society and Zionism

    32:33 The Role of International Support

    34:08 The BDS Movement and Palestinian Civil Society

    35:47 The Call for Global Solidarity

    43:18 Banging on the Walls of the Tank

    53:12 A Shift in the Global Narrative

    58:17 Final Thoughts and Call to Action

    Resources

    Project Hope Palestine

    Catharsis Holistic Healing Palestine

    BDS Movement

    Ashira Darwish’s Website



    Where Olive Trees Weep



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    Threshold Voices: Sounds of SAND 2025

    30/12/2025 | 2h 10 mins.
    This final episode of 2025 reflects on a year of transitions and healing, focusing on themes of intergenerational trauma, collective grief, and social justice, especially in the context of the ongoing genocide in Gaza. Through diverse voices including Dr. Gabor Maté, Naomi Klein, Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb, Ashira Darwish, Omid Safi, Kazu Haga, and others, the episode delves into personal and collective fields of healing. It emphasizes the importance of remembering, ritualizing healing, community action, indigenous knowledge, and a para-politics of grief and relationship. The episode also highlights the significance of interconnectedness, resilience, and the continuous effort towards justice and transformation.

    Topics and Speakers

    00:00 Introduction and Year in Review

    02:03 Minds Under Siege: Dr. Gabor Mate and Naomi Klein

    17:38 We Will Not Look Away: Vigil for Gaza with Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb, Ashira Darwish and Omid Safi

    37:33 Fierce Vulnerability: Kazu Haga

    46:16 Belonging Without Othering: john a. powell

    50:51 The Limits of Solution-Driven Thinking: Bayo Akomolafe

    55:47 Complexity and Phase Transitions: Jeremy Lent

    01:02:03 Intergenerational Trauma and Healing: Jungwon Kim and Linda Thai

    01:18:40 Generational Trauma and Community Healing: Dr. Thema Bryant

    01:23:16 Decolonizing Therapy and Ancestral Healing: Dr. Jennifer Mullan

    01:26:30 Indigenous Perspectives on Colonization and Wellbeing: Dr. Diana Kopua, Tina Ngata and Mark Kopua

    01:40:30 Plant Medicine and Connection to Nature: Donna Kerridge

    01:53:07 Grief, Ritual, and Communal Healing: Orland Bishop and Francis Weller

    02:02:39 Presence and Receptive Awareness: John J. Prendergast

    02:09:26 Conclusion and Membership Invitation

    Links

    Naomi Klein

    Dr. Gabor Maté

    Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb

    Omid Safi

    Kazu Haga

    john a. Powell

    Bayo Akomolafe

    Jeremy Lent

    Jungwon Kim

    Linda Thai

    Dr. Thema Bryant

    Dr. Jennifer Mullan

    Te Kurahuna (Mark and Dr. Diana Kopua)

    Tina Ngata

    Francis Weller

    Orland Bishop

    John Prendergast

    Where Olive Trees Weep

    The Eternal Song (Film series and course)

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    Threshold Voices: Sounds of SAND 2025

    18/12/2025 | 2h 10 mins.
    This final episode of 2025 reflects on a year of transitions and healing, focusing on themes of intergenerational trauma, collective grief, and social justice, especially in the context of the ongoing genocide in Gaza. Through diverse voices including Dr. Gabor Maté, Naomi Klein, Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb, Ashira Darwish, Omid Safi, Kazu Haga, and others, the episode delves into personal and collective fields of healing. It emphasizes the importance of remembering, ritualizing healing, community action, indigenous knowledge, and a para-politics of grief and relationship. The episode also highlights the significance of interconnectedness, resilience, and the continuous effort towards justice and transformation.

    Topics and Speakers

    00:00 Introduction and Year in Review

    02:03 Minds Under Siege: Dr. Gabor Mate and Naomi Klein

    17:38 We Will Not Look Away: Vigil for Gaza with Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb, Ashira Darwish and Omid Safi

    37:33 Fierce Vulnerability: Kazu Haga

    46:16 Belonging Without Othering: john a. powell

    50:51 The Limits of Solution-Driven Thinking: Bayo Akomolafe

    55:47 Complexity and Phase Transitions: Jeremy Lent

    01:02:03 Intergenerational Trauma and Healing: Jungwon Kim and Linda Thai

    01:18:40 Generational Trauma and Community Healing: Dr. Thema Bryant

    01:23:16 Decolonizing Therapy and Ancestral Healing: Dr. Jennifer Mullan

    01:26:30 Indigenous Perspectives on Colonization and Wellbeing: Dr. Diana Kopua, Tina Ngata and Mark Kopua

    01:40:30 Plant Medicine and Connection to Nature: Donna Kerridge

    01:53:07 Grief, Ritual, and Communal Healing: Orland Bishop and Francis Weller

    02:02:39 Presence and Receptive Awareness: John J. Prendergast

    02:09:26 Conclusion and Membership Invitation

    Links

    Naomi Klein

    Dr. Gabor Maté

    Rabbi Lynn Gottlieb

    Omid Safi

    Kazu Haga

    john a. Powell

    Bayo Akomolafe

    Jeremy Lent

    Jungwon Kim

    Linda Thai

    Dr. Thema Bryant

    Dr. Jennifer Mullan

    Te Kurahuna (Mark and Dr. Diana Kopua)

    Tina Ngata

    Francis Weller

    Orland Bishop

    John Prendergast

    Where Olive Trees Weep

    The Eternal Song (Film series and course)

    Support the mission of SAND and the production of this podcast by becoming a SAND Member

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About Sounds of SAND

Sounds of SAND invites listeners into a contemplative journey through the infinite cycles of existence - from its raw beauty to its deepest mysteries, from its intricate complexity to its profound wonder. Through intimate conversations, thought-provoking interviews, poetic readings, and carefully curated music, we weave together ancient wisdom with lived experience, creating a tapestry of sound that honors the great questions of being
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