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The Book Deal

Tina Strachan, Madeleine Cleary & Natasha Rai
The Book Deal
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  • The Book Deal

    Rebecca Armitage on rejection and the road to a bestseller (with pre-empts, Reese's Book Club, and a TV adaptation on the way!)

    08/04/2026 | 50 mins.
    Madeleine interviews Tasmania-based ABC journalist and digital editor Rebecca Armitage about her debut novel, The Heir Apparent (December 2025, HarperCollins Australia).
    One might think Rebecca’s journey to publication was a bit of a fairytale, with simultaneous releases in multiple territories, pre-empts, a Reese’s Book Club pick and even a TV deal! But her journey to publication was not without its challenges, and Rebecca has some fabulous advice about creating good writing habits, finding resilience when dealing with multiples rejections and some great tips for when your book hits the shelves. 
    She details early rejections, pitching through the Australian Society of Authors, getting the 'yes', landing a HarperCollins pr-eempt and major US/UK deals, feels after being selected for Reese’s Book Club - and prompting a pub date shift, TV deals and more. She has some wonderful advice for emerging and debut authors on habit-setting, writing and pitching.
    Our Debut in the Spotlight is Leearna Shaw, whose debut novel is A Farm in Golden Clouds (March 2026, Allen & Unwin).
    00:56 Introduction to Rebecca Armitage
    01:39 Heir Apparent Elevator Pitch
    04:00 Journalism and Fiction
    06:08 Inspiration
    10:11 Research
    15:14 Plotter or Pantser
    17:40 Writing Habits and Targets
    21:56 Draft to Submission
    23:21 Pitching and Finding an Agent
    26:27 First Yes Moment
    26:58 Rejection Resilience
    28:35 HarperCollins Preempt
    30:11 Global Deal Whirlwind
    36:16 Reese Book Club Pick
    40:44 TV Adaptation Plans
    44:11 Launch Advice for Debuts
    47:06 Tassie Reading Recommends 
    49:25 Final Writing Top Tip

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    You can find out more about Tina, Madeleine and Natasha and follow their journeys here:
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    Tina Strachan children's book author
    Madeleine Cleary (@madeleineclearywrites) • Instagram photos and videos
    Madeleine Cleary | Author
    Natasha Rai (@raiwriting) • Instagram photos and videos
    Natasha Rai | Author | Mentor
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  • The Book Deal

    How to succeed in writing competitions, agent and publisher assessments and networking, with Tina Clark, CYA conference coordinator

    01/04/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    Tina Strachan interviews author and CYA Conference coordinator Tina Clark about how the CYA writers and illustrators conference helps aspiring and emerging creators secure publication through competitions, bootcamps, and agent/editor/publisher assessments. Clark explains her motivation to centralize trustworthy industry information and protect writers from predatory services, and she outlines CYA’s hybrid format, including online bootcamps, in-person July sessions, and a rooftop networking event at the Pullman Hotel. She details how bootcamps work in small groups with editors, how competitions provide two sets of blind-judged feedback and shortlist entries for a final publisher/editor decision, and gives practical submission tips like strictly following guidelines and formatting headers/footers. She advises not to argue with editors in assessments and emphasizes her top tip: finish the book—“bum in chair” writing. 
    The Debut Spotlight for this week is Katie Hoskins and her debut novel 'When the Party's Over'.

    00:00 Podcast Intro
    00:56 Meet Tina Clark
    06:38 CYA Origins
    08:06 Shadows of Africa
    12:20 Why She Champions Writers
    16:15 CYA Overview
    16:46 Bootcamps Breakdown
    24:21 Debut Spotlight: Katie Hoskins
    25:36 CYA Competition Dates
    28:09 Judging Process
    33:29 Prizes And Growth
    35:24 Publisher Feedback Limits
    35:46 Follow Submission Guidelines
    37:35 Formatting Pitfalls
    39:42 Why Assessments Matter
    43:01 Submit the Opening Pages
    45:49 Networking Not Pitching
    46:58 Never Argue With Editors
    48:50 Success Stories And Notes
    55:26 Conference Day Options
    57:07 Panels And Program Highlights
    01:02:00 Rooftop Networking Night
    01:03:14 Bum In Chair Finale
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    You can find out more about Tina, Madeleine and Natasha and follow their journeys here:
    Tina Strachan (@td_strachan) • Instagram photos and videos
    Tina Strachan children's book author
    Madeleine Cleary (@madeleineclearywrites) • Instagram photos and videos
    Madeleine Cleary | Author
    Natasha Rai (@raiwriting) • Instagram photos and videos
    Natasha Rai | Author | Mentor
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  • The Book Deal

    The Writing Deal: Natasha, Madeleine and Tina on being a 'good literary citizen'

    25/03/2026 | 42 mins.
    The Writing Deal: Natasha, Madeleine and Tina on being a 'good literary citizen'.
    Tina Strachan, Madeleine Cleary, and Natasha Rai share their updates in March: somatic therapy training, writing and editing in the snatches, immersion time, journalling, book research and more. Plus they brainstorm what their promo boxes look like and chat about what they are reading.
    They reflect on advice from HarperCollins Australia Head of Fiction, Catherine Milne, about 'bailing-up' publishers at events, the art/commerce balance, comparison titles. They also discuss what being a 'good literary citizen' actually means. 
    00:00 Podcast intro
    00:56 Monthly catch up
    02:43 Writing in snatches
    04:34 Structural edits crunch
    11:11 Promo boxes!
    14:55 Tina's self-care journal
    18:57 Workshops and events
    20:05 Spiritualist church book research
    22:53 Publisher Pitch Reflections
    24:20 Art Meets Commerce
    29:31 Being a Good Literary Citizen
    37:39 What We Are Reading
    41:56 Wrap Up And Support
    Join our Patreon community for less than the cost of a coffee per month and support the pod! Your contribution will go to directly paying our sound producer, Brogan, and to help us bring you the conversations with industry professionals you love.
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    Tina Strachan (@td_strachan) • Instagram photos and videos
    Tina Strachan children's book author
    Madeleine Cleary (@madeleineclearywrites) • Instagram photos and videos
    Madeleine Cleary | Author
    Natasha Rai (@raiwriting) • Instagram photos and videos
    Natasha Rai | Author | Mentor
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  • The Book Deal

    Bridie Blake on writing romcoms, writing practice and 20 years of persevering for a book deal

    18/03/2026 | 1h 3 mins.
    Natasha Rai interviews author Bridie Blake days before her rom-com debut The Boyfriend Clause releases. Blake pitches the novel: café owner Sabrina Fogarty enters a fake-dating deal with her broody neighbor, bestselling author Adam Whitaker, which escalates when he joins her family holiday to the UK. Blake discusses becoming a rom-com reader during the pandemic, her earlier years writing dark YA and suspense, and years of rejections, including a two-year US submission during COVID after signing a US agent. She explains developing The Boyfriend Clause from a “white lie,” outlining with a pitch and detailed plan, and choosing to publish in Australia so her dad could see it in bookstores. Text Publishing acquired it quickly, and Blake has submitted book two and is drafting book three.

    00:00 Podcast Intro
    00:56 Meet Bridie and Launch Day
    02:34 Release Nerves and Social Media
    04:08 Elevator Pitch The Boyfriend Clause
    05:27 Why Romcoms Feel Good
    08:59 From YA Darkness to Romcom
    10:08 Writing Since Childhood
    11:48 Resilience Through Rejection
    14:51 Querying and US Agent Journey
    18:28 Pandemic Submission Heartbreak
    20:14 Switching Genres to Adult Romcom
    20:49 Origin of The Boyfriend Clause
    25:38 Pitch First Then Outline
    30:04 Drafting Timeline and Agent Edits
    31:37 Making It Australian
    32:34 Americanize The Manuscript
    33:18 US Submission Reality Check
    34:55 Choosing Australia First
    38:39 Dream Publisher Submission
    41:18 Full Request To Offer
    47:29 Editing And Next Books
    52:48 US Vs Australia Publishing
    54:36 Routine Craft And Feedback
    59:33 Final Advice And Wrap
    Join our Patreon community for less than the cost of a coffee per month and support the pod! Your contribution will go to directly paying our sound producer, Brogan, and to help us bring you the conversations with industry professionals you love.
    Follow The Book Deal podcast on Instagram The Book Deal podcast (@the_book_deal_podcast) • Instagram photos and videos

    You can find out more about Tina, Madeleine and Natasha and follow their journeys here:
    Tina Strachan (@td_strachan) • Instagram photos and videos
    Tina Strachan children's book author
    Madeleine Cleary (@madeleineclearywrites) • Instagram photos and videos
    Madeleine Cleary | Author
    Natasha Rai (@raiwriting) • Instagram photos and videos
    Natasha Rai | Author | Mentor
    If you want to stay in the know, sign up to Madeleine, Tina and Natasha's newsletters for the latest news first.
    Madeleine: Subscribe here...
  • The Book Deal

    The Publishing Deal: Catherine Milne, Head of Fiction at HarperCollins, on Success, Bestsellers and Writing from the Heart

    11/03/2026 | 56 mins.
    The Publishing Deal: Catherine Milne, Head of Fiction at HarperCollins, on Success, Bestsellers and Writing from the Heart
    Catherine Milne has worked in publishing for many years, including with Penguin Books, Allen & Unwin, and since 2012, with HarperCollins, where she has been Head of Fiction since 2017.  Her list is eclectic, ranging across fiction and non-fiction, but consistently award-winning and bestselling. It includes such successes as Trent Dalton, Julia Baird, Holly Ringland, Meg Mason, Jacqueline Maley, Alli Parker, Rebecca Armitage, Jacinta Parsons, Stan Grant, Rick Morton and Ben Crowe.
    For more information about The Australian Fiction Prize, see here.
    The Debut in the Spotlight this week is Sophie Stern, with her debut novel What is Left For Us (Penguin, March 2026). 
    00:00 Welcome to Book Deal
    01:50 Catherine's start in publishing
    06:12 The slush pile
    08:35 Approaching publishers
    10:21 Pitching
    17:22 Inside Acquisitions Meetings
    22:30 Second Book Pressure
    25:48 Writing for Love
    26:55 Debut in the Spotlight: Sophie Stern
    28:11 Defining Success
    29:44 Advances
    33:26 Marketing Myths Breakouts
    36:23 Case Study Sorrow & Bliss
    41:20 State of the industry
    47:54 The Australian Fiction Prize
    52:49 Final Tip

    Join our Patreon community for less than the cost of a coffee per month and support the pod! Your contribution will go to directly paying our sound producer, Brogan, and to help us bring you the conversations with industry professionals you love.
    Follow The Book Deal podcast on Instagram The Book Deal podcast (@the_book_deal_podcast) • Instagram photos and videos

    You can find out more about Tina, Madeleine and Natasha and follow their journeys here:
    Tina Strachan (@td_strachan) • Instagram photos and videos
    Tina Strachan children's book author
    Madeleine Cleary (@madeleineclearywrites) • Instagram photos and videos
    Madeleine Cleary | Author
    Natasha Rai (@raiwriting) • Instagram photos and videos
    Natasha Rai | Author | Mentor
    If you want to stay in the know, sign up to Madeleine, Tina and Natasha's newsletters for the latest news first.
    Madeleine: Subscribe here...

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