The Steady State Sentinel

Soft Power, Hard Choices, and the Hollowing Out of U.S. Diplomacy
In this edition of the Sentinel podcast, host Lauren Anderson, former senior FBI executive, sits down with Ambassador Tom Shannon, one of the most experienced diplomats of his generation. They discuss what Shannon describes as a "counterrevolution" in U.S. foreign policy – a shift away from the post-WWII alliance-based system toward a more unilateral "America First" approach. Shannon warns that the erosion of institutional expertise at agencies like the State Department and FBI, and across the national security enterprise, will have long-term consequences for U.S. effectiveness abroad. He also emphasizes the enduring importance of soft power, including programs like the International Visitor Leadership Program (IVLP), in shaping global relations. The conversation closes with a look at how Gen Z students, including those Shannon teaches at Princeton, view America’s role in a chaotic world.
Thomas A Shannon Jr. is one of the United States’ most experienced career diplomats, with more than 35 years in the Foreign Service. He served as Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, the State Department’s top career diplomat, and held senior roles across multiple administrations, including as U.S. Ambassador to Brazil and Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs. He also led the department through the transition between the Obama and Trump administrations. Now teaching at Princeton University, Shannon brings deep expertise in diplomacy, U.S. foreign policy, and America’s role in a rapidly changing world.
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A conversation on identity, disinformation, and the path out of political extremism
In this week's episode of the Sentinel podcast, John Sipher speaks with Rich Logis, founder of Leaving MAGA, about his journey into—and out of—the movement. They explore how identity, belonging, and media ecosystems shape political belief, why leaving can be so difficult, and what ultimately breaks the cycle. Logis also shares insights on disinformation, “anger addiction,” and how families can support loved ones questioning deeply held views.
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Guest Info: Rich Logis is the founder and executive director of Leaving MAGA, an organization that supports people who are leaving or questioning the MAGA movement and helps families navigate reconciliation.
https://leavingmaga.org/memoir/
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Strategic Failures, Intelligence Erosion, and the New Global Threat Landscape
In the latest episode of the Sentinel podcast, Jim Lawler hosts investigative journalist Seth Hettena to discuss the U.S. war with Iran, domestic security, and global policy challenges. Domestically, they discuss the weakened state of our institutions, loss of expertise, and politicization of decision-making. Globally, they highlight strained credibility, particularly regarding Ukraine, and the declining trust in the U.S. of our allies. The conversation also raises concerns about expanding government surveillance capabilities enabled by modern technology.
About: Seth Hettena is a veteran national security reporter covering intelligence and special operations. He is currently writing “The IceMan,” a book about a 2003 incident in Iraq in which a Navy SEAL Platoon was blamed for the death of a CIA detainee under torture. The victim, Manadel Aljamadi, was referred to as “The Iceman.” You can find Seth on Substack.
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In this week's episode, Lauren Anderson and Phil Gurski discuss the Five Eyes partnership, the FBI’s challenges, and why politicized intelligence endangers everyone.
Summary: Former FBI executive Lauren Anderson sits down with Canadian intelligence veteran Phil Gurski, the first international guest on the Steady State Sentinel, to explore how America looks from the perspective of a close ally. Together they unpack the history and purpose of the Five Eyes partnership, the vital but often invisible fabric of liaison relationships, and the indispensable teamwork between analysts, case agents, and linguists in counterterrorism work. Gurski warns about the politicization of intelligence and the hollowing out of expertise in agencies like the FBI and CIA, and explains how these trends threaten not just U.S. security but Canada’s safety and the resilience of shared democratic values.
About: Phil Gurski is a former senior strategic analyst with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Canada’s civilian security intelligence agency. Before joining CSIS, he spent 17 and a half years at the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), Canada’s signals intelligence organization and functional counterpart to the NSA, working as a multilingual foreign intelligence analyst and cryptanalyst in roughly ten languages. Over a 32-plus-year career in intelligence, Gurski specialized in Iran, Arabic-language targets, and jihadi terrorism, regularly supporting source debriefings, operational teams, and joint work with partners across the Five Eyes alliance. He is the president of Borealis Threat and Risk Consulting, host of the podcast “Spies Like Us,” and the author of multiple books on terrorism and intelligence, including a forthcoming volume marking the 25th anniversary of 9/11. You can find Phil’s work through Borealis Threat and Risk Consulting and his “Spies Like Us” podcast, where he examines intelligence, terrorism, and security issues for a wider public audience.
International Centre or Counter-Terrorism
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Inside the risks of reporting on intelligence in an era of political pressure and weakening institutional guardrails
John Sipher sits down with The Atlantic’s Shane Harris for a wide-ranging conversation on intelligence reporting, the unraveling of trust in American institutions, threats to press freedom, and what U.S. allies now fear most about Washington. Harris also reflects on one of the most extraordinary source relationships of his career and what it reveals about journalism, secrecy, and risk.
Shane Harris is a staff writer at The Atlantic covering national security and intelligence. He has written about intelligence, security, and foreign policy for more than two decades, including as a staff writer for The Washington Post, where he was part of the team that won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize for Public Service. In 2023, he co-reported the documentary The Discord Leaks with PBS Frontline, which was nominated for an Emmy for outstanding investigative news coverage. He is the author of two books, The Watchers and @War.
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