Between Two Beers Podcast

Steve and Seamus sit down with their business coach Di for their first session of 2026 - and they're not holding back.

On the table: a plan to 5x revenue in three years, double their audience in twelve months, and finally build the team around them that the business actually needs.

They get into why growing your audience doesn't pay off in the same year, why neither of them are natural team builders, and why after six years of running on instinct, the numbers are starting to matter.
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Ruben Miller spent 22 years as a forensic scientist in New Zealand, working on more than 160 homicide investigations. This is the story of what it cost him.

In this episode we talk about what it actually feels like to walk into a homicide scene, the forensic principle that guides every investigation, the case that still hasn't left him, and what two decades of witnessing violence quietly does to a person.

We also get into PTSD, therapy, what resilience actually means versus what we tell ourselves it means, and how Ruben found compassion for people most of us would write off entirely.

Ruben's book The Blood Says Otherwise is out now at all good bookstores and online.

Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by our friends at Barkers Clothing.

⚠️ This episode contains discussion of homicide, child death, trauma, and PTSD. Please take care.
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Have you made the switch from ChatGPT to Claude yet?

Steve and Che did - and they're not going back.

In this week's Hambassadors they break down why they ditched ChatGPT, what Claude is actually doing for their business, and why one of them still can't bring himself to fully commit.

Plus: the truth about what happens in the studio before guests arrive, Che’s horror dentist bill, going solo at Homegrown, and why putting IKEA furniture together is a life lesson.

Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by the legends at Barkers Clothing!
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Melie Kerr joins us fresh off being named White Ferns captain across all formats and scoring a T20 century on captaincy debut - the first woman ever to do so.

But this episode goes well beyond cricket.

Growing up in one of New Zealand's most celebrated cricket families, Melie was the kid who made her dad commentate 7am net sessions as if she was playing in a World Cup final. She went on to become the youngest ever White Fern, break records, and win that World Cup. From the outside, she had everything - her dream job and an amazing family. But behind it, she was fighting something nobody could see.

Melie opens up about the panic attacks, the sleepless nights, the thoughts that scared her, and the moment she realised she needed help. She talks about the family intervention that changed everything, how Maddie Green became her lifeline, and what it felt like to sit in a hospital room reading from her journal while everyone in the room cried.

She also talks about turning that pain into purpose - creating Treading Water, her video series built on the belief that one story might save one life.

This is one of the most honest, important conversations we've had in six years.

Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by the legends at Barkers Clothing!

If you or someone you know needs support, help is available.

In New Zealand, you can call or text 1737 anytime to speak with a trained counsellor. If you are in immediate danger, please call 111.
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Che and Di sit down for a one-on-one to go through the 2026 goals - but this is the episode they couldn't record until now.

A new baby. A house. A marriage. The past few months have changed everything for Che, and in this episode he and Di work through what that actually means for his personal and professional life heading into the year ahead.

They cover the weight goal (and the moment Che realised Doc had been quietly protecting his diet during pregnancy), why Di wants him to cross "investment property" off his goals list and replace it with something else entirely, how routine works both for and against you, and the one question that closes the episode out: are you proud of where you are?

An honest, and genuinely funny conversation. This is ABO at its best.

Topics covered:
Life with a newborn and the work-life juggle
Being a present father AND a provider
The weight goal, the why behind it, and Di's simple framework for making it stick
Investment property vs. investment plan - Di challenges one of NZ's most default financial goals
Know your numbers: in business, at home, and in investments
Reflecting on the infamous episode from last year - and what was really going on behind the scenes

👕 Steve and Seamus are proud to be dressed by the legends at Barkers Clothing.

0:00 — Intro & what this episode covers
0:45 — Che's new baby - how it's actually going
5:57 — Di's take: stepping up to the plate
14:30 — The weight goal: 130kg → 120kg and why
15:33 — Doc was quietly protecting his diet during pregnancy
27:06 — What Che actually wants
30:19 — What the past few months have really meant
31:27 — Wrapping up
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