Don't Shoot The Messenger

ON THIS EPISODE

Special guests - Gerard Whateley and Libbi Gorr

The power of sport - and its ability to unite

Book, Screen and Food recommendations from Corrie, Gerard and Libbi

The rising popularity of Pauline Hansen – why?

The posters on your bedroom wall as you grew up...

This Sporting Life

- How Libbi was drawn to sport (played as a kid, watched as a spectator, Elle McFeast etc.)

- Libbi’s daughter and son’s emerging careers in soccer

- The World Cup – why these large events are so magical – and how it brings everybody together to be experts and barrack together

- Why the Socceroos are a true reflection of the country, according to Gerard Whateley

- How Gerard was drawn to sport (played as a kid, watched as a spectator, early sporting journo days)

- Early sporting heroes and heroines, memorable moments, matches, races, spectacles

- Why sport? And which particular sport/s float your boat

- Sports commentary , podcasts and programs, and sports journalism: how far sport coverage has come, and where to from here

- Libbi with her podcast ‘Red Card for Mummy” and Gerard’s successful SEN and Foxtel programs

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BOOK:

LIBBI: Before The Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguch

“What an elegant, sweet, profound little book. It is such an elegantly written book” – Libbi

GERARD: The Land In Winter by Andrew Miller

“I thought it was beautifully written and immersive” – Gerard

SCREEN:

CORRIE AND LIBBI: Hacks on STAN

“Does it surprise you that I love this with all of my heart!?” – Libbi

“It’s really good. Start at the beginning and do an emersion”

GERARD: A Spy Among Friends

“Classic English spy series. Brilliantly shot Ciao, England, US, Russia… The way Guy Pearce ages through it… He’s brilliant. It has a such a style scene at the end, it’s really satisfying”

FOOD:

GERARD: Tahini Granola

https://28bysamwood.com/recipes/tahini-granola/

LIBBI: Libbi’s Brisket Soup

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Corrie to Libbi: Can the diversity of the soccer team change peoples’ views on immigration. Is sport that powerful?

Libbi to Corrie: Did you ever expect the Sorrento Writers Festival to get so big

Corrie to Libbi: The appeal of Paulie Hanson after her parliamentary debut in 1994: please Explain

Corrie’s article recommendation: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/15/pauline-hanson-one-nation-borrow-from-trump-grievance-politics-ntwnfb

Libbi to Corrie: What was this week’s brush with sexism

Corrie to Libbi: If you were to resurrect the indomitable Elle McFeast for just one more interview show, who would be your dream interviewee/s

Libbi to Corrie: If the Festival gods granted you one wish to have any writer in the world alive today, who would it be

The 400th Journey – we reminisce!

• How the podcast started

• How it evolved

• High points, big stories etc

• Funny moments

• Favorite guests

• Our Pod community and what it means to us

• The role of our producers (Miss Jane and Joel, plus Sam T, Hutchy etc)

• Why podcasts work generally as a medium and the rise and rise since we started back in 2017 ie what we have observed about our own podcast listening habits, what makes a good podcast etc

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Caro to Corrie: If you had the time and the resources to start another podcast, what would be the topic

Corrie to Caro: If you had the time and the resources to start another podcast, what would be the topic

Caro to Corrie: When it comes to BSF, which do you wish you had more time to enjoy

Corrie to Caro: When it comes to BSF, which do you wish you had more time to enjoy

Caro to Corrie: If you could have one famous Australan as a guest on the podcast, who would it be

Corrie to Caro: If you could have one famous Australan as a guest on the podcast, who would it be

The Cocktail Cabinet: With Myles Thomson of Prince Winestore. THIS WEEK: Price’s Happy 400th Trio Pack

Querciabella Mongrana 2023

Delamere Sparkling Cuvee NV

Maude Central Otago Pinot Noir 2024

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BOOK: C&C - OUR BEST BOOKS ACROSS THE 400 EPS

Caro:

Ian McEwan - Lessons

"A book about history, the Berlin War... History through a man's life. I absolutely LOVED Lessons."

Kate Atkinson - Life After Live

"One of the best books I've ever read."

Ann Patchett - Bel Canto

"It's an absolutely beautiful book."

Maggie O'Farrelll - The Hand That First Held Mine

"A beautiful, poignant story"

Corrie:

Sarah Winman - Still Life

"I knew within a couple of chapters this was a profoundly important book. So many poddies discovered Sarah... We love Sarah Winman."

Maggie O'Farrell - Hamnet

"It was a privilege to bring Hamnet to everyone."

John Boyne - The Elements (series)

"All four books, that series was outstanding."

Ann Patchett - The Dutch House

"I just thought it was such a fine novel."

Robbie Arnot - Dusk

"That was a great book."

And we both fell in love with William Boyd. And another mention for Jonathan Coe and Middle England.

SCREEN: C & C - OUR 3 BEST SCREENS

Caro:

Slow Horses

“It has broken the barriers for me. It’s resurrected a lot of careers… Kristin Scott Thomas, Gary Oldman.”

Judy:

“A very small snapshot of the life of Jude Garland, played by Renée Zellweger, who is absolutely brilliant... It’s very sad, brilliantly performed and ultimately triumphant.”

Operation Mincemeat

Barbie:

“A real showstopper. I loved Barbie. The script and the story... Something for everyone”

Corrie:

The Crown:

“We have discussed and discussed The Crown.”

Zero Zero Zero:

“A fantastic crime show, about drug cartels. It’s brilliant.”

Billions:

“Wonderful!”

FOOD: C& C - OUR 3 BEST RECIPES

A Recipe from Corrie:

APPLE and RASPBERRY CAKE

"It's stunning!"

This has always been a really popular cake and once cooked someone always asks for the recipe.

Preparation time: 15 minutes

Cooking time: 40-45 minutes

Serves: 8

3 granny smith apples

125g butter

1½ cups self raising flour

¾ cup caster sugar

1 egg

1 teaspoon vanilla

1 punnet raspberries icing sugar to top

thick cream or ice cream to serve

Preheat the oven to 180°C.

Grease and line a round cake tin with baking paper. Slice and cook the apples. Drain and wrap cooked apples in kitchen paper to absorb as much moisture as possible.

Melt the butter. Add the sifted flour, sugar, egg and vanilla and beat with a wooden spoon until smooth. Press ¾ of the mix into the cake tin, pushing it up the sides. Spread the apple on top and scatter the raspberries on the top of that. Drop dobs of the remaining mixture over the top.

Bake for 40-45 minutes. Allow the cake to firm before turning out. Sift icing sugar on top and serve with cream or ice cream and extra raspberries if serving as a dessert.

Cook's tip

A key to the success of this cake is to ensure that as much of the cooking liquid as possible is drained from the fruit before placing it on the cake batter.

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