This Complex Life

Why doesn't mental health advice change what you actually do? You can name your attachment style, explain what co-regulation means and know exactly why yelling isn't helping, and still lose it before school drop off. In this episode I talk with Sana Qadar, host of the ABC's All in the Mind, about the gap between knowing the research and using it, the mental health words that have lost their meaning, and the one parenting strategy she took home and used within the week.
Things we discussed
How a journalist who trained to be a war reporter ended up hosting a psychology podcast
Why being fluent in mental health language isn't the same as changing your behaviour
The anti yelling advice from Dr Lindsay Gibson that fixed Sana's morning routine overnight
Turning the school morning into a game instead of a fight
The difference between willpower and building a system around yourself
What has actually changed in how we talk about mental health in the last five years
Trauma, ADHD and narcissism used as catchall terms, and what gets lost when they are
How Sana decides how much of her own life to share with listeners
Working out whether the person giving you advice online is actually qualified
Why almost every episode about the brain turns out to be a story about a relationship
What makes you hard to live with, and what it means when someone calls you unreflective

Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:40 From war reporting to psychology and neuroscience
2:40 Why knowing the research doesn't mean you're doing the work
4:40 The parenting advice she took home and used that week
6:20 How much of yourself to share when you host a show
9:20 The basket of paper tasks that changed their mornings
10:10 What has shifted in how we talk about mental health
11:00 Trauma, ADHD and therapy speak as catchall labels
12:40 The story that stayed with her
16:00 What it's like being the one getting interviewed
21:30 How to work out if someone is qualified to give advice
24:30 Why every brain story is really a relationship story
27:20 What makes you hard to live with
About Sana
Sana Qadar is the host of All in the Mind on ABC Radio National. She spent ten years working in international news before moving into psychology and mental health reporting, and has been hosting All in the Mind full time since 2021. She isn't a psychologist or a therapist, which is exactly why this conversation is useful. If you have a topic you'd like the show to cover, you can email allinthemind@abc.net.au.
Resources and links
All in the Mind podcast – get it on the ABC listen app or where ever you get your podcasts

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The five love languages have sold over 20 million copies and become one of the most widely used frameworks in pop psychology. Most couples have done the quiz. A lot of them have tried to apply it. In this episode, Marie talks about what the research actually found when the core claims were tested, where the framework falls short in practice, and what consistently shows up in the research as a far better predictor of relationship satisfaction.

Things Discussed
The origins of the five love languages and why the book resonated with so many people
Why the framework was based on pastoral counselling, not research
What the Journal of Marriage and Family Therapy found when it formally tested the core claims
Why having the same primary love language as your partner doesn't predict relationship satisfaction
The ways people misuse the love languages: as a compatibility test, a measuring stick, or a fixed diagnosis
Why love language preferences shift with life stage, stress and having kids
Responsiveness and bids for connection: what the research shows is a far better predictor of relationship satisfaction
Love maps: understanding your partner's inner world, why most couples stop updating them after three to five years, and what that costs
Practical steps: asking your partner what would make them feel loved right now, staying curious, keeping the conversation going

Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Why the five love languages resonated and what the book got right
2:15 The research gap: pastoral counselling versus evidence
3:00 The five categories and what the research found about shared love languages
4:30 What goes wrong: love languages as a compatibility test
6:00 Responsiveness and bids for connection
8:00 Love maps and staying updated on your partner's inner world
10:30 What to do instead
13:30 Relationship Reset and how to get support

Resources and Links
The 5 Love Languages by Gary Chapman
Relationship Reset Course: https://marievakakis.com.au/relationship-new-year-reset-2026/

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Your partner gets defensive and suddenly the conversation you needed to have is completely buried. Now you’re defending yourself, they’re defending themselves, and whatever you actually needed to talk about is gone. This is one of the most common things I see in couples therapy, and in almost every case there’s more going on underneath the surface than it looks like from where you’re standing.

What this episode covers
What defensiveness usually is: a reaction to how something was delivered, not just a personality trait
Criticism vs contempt: the two Gottman concepts that predict relationship breakdown and how they trigger defensive responses
How to tell the difference between attacking the person and describing your own experience
The shopping trolley story: intention, impact and interpretation, and why couples fight about the wrong thing
How past experiences, trauma and negative sentiment override shape the way your partner hears what you say
Why some people are wired to hear an attack even when there isn’t one
What to do when you see defensiveness coming, including the gentle startup
Leading with curiosity instead of accusation
How to ask your partner to rephrase something when it has landed wrong

Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
2:00 Criticism and contempt: what Gottman research tells us
4:00 How you start the conversation changes everything
6:00 Intention, impact and interpretation
10:00 When interpretation becomes the story we tell ourselves
13:00 How past experiences and trauma shape defensive responses
17:00 What to do when your partner gets defensive
20:00 How to phrase things differently and ask for a rephrase

Resources and Links
Conflict Workbook: https://marievakakis.com.au/why-couples-keep-arguing-and-what-its-really-aboutand-what-its-really-about/
Relationship Reset course: https://marievakakis.com.au/relationship-new-year-reset-2026/
Marathon sessions at The Therapy Hub: https://thetherapyhub.com.au/marathon-couples-therapy/

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Grief is one of those feelings we don't talk about very well, even though every single one of us will live through it. In this solo episode I sit with grief in all its forms, from the loss we expect to the loss that knocks us sideways. I talk about what helped me, what I see in the therapy room, and the small practical things that actually make a difference when you're the one grieving or the one trying to support someone who is.

Things Discussed
The many different types of grief, and why having language for them helps
Anticipatory grief, and what it's like to slowly lose a grandparent to dementia
The things people say with the best intentions that quietly make grief harder
Why two people can lose the same person and grieve like strangers
Grief bursts, and why a wave of sadness can arrive months or years later
How to genuinely show up for someone instead of asking them to tell you what they need
What to do when grief comes out as anger
Why comparing whose loss is worse misses the point entirely

Timestamps
0:00 Why we don't talk about grief
0:30 The many types of grief
2:20 My first experiences of grief
5:30 Grief and love arrive together
9:30 What not to say to someone grieving
13:00 Practical grievers and feeling grievers
17:40 How to actually show up for someone
22:30 Anticipatory grief

Resources and Links
Inside Social Work: When a Client Dies by Suicide: Reflections for Mental Health Professionals
Work with a therapist
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You still like each other. You get along well. There's no crisis, nothing obviously broken. You've just stopped feeling in love the way you used to, and you're not sure whether you can get it back. That's the Ask Marie question this episode answers, and it comes up more often than almost anything else I hear in my consulting room.

What this episode covers
Why what you're describing is extremely common and what the difference between drifting apart and falling out of love actually means
The plant metaphor: why a relationship that doesn't get what it needs fails not because it wasn't resilient but because it wasn't tended
Five signs you've drifted: patterns have become functional rather than romantic, conversation is mostly logistics, small moments of connection have disappeared, you're on autopilot, you're coexisting rather than connecting
Why this happens, especially when children arrive, and why the relationship gets quietly deprioritised because it seems more stable than everything else demanding your attention
The emotional piggy bank: why small consistent deposits build the buffer you need when hard times come, and why so many couples are in overdraft
Bids for connection and the three ways we respond to them
Why weekend getaways often make things worse and what actually works instead
How to start the conversation using I statements that describe feelings rather than the other person's behaviour
Why tone matters as much as words and how the same sentence can land completely differently depending on how it's delivered
How to pick the right timing for a difficult conversation and stop setting each other up to fail
The marathon session story: a couple who fell back in love after two days of deep conversation
Small deposits to start today

Timestamps
0:00 Introduction and the Ask Marie question
2:30 Why drifting apart is different from falling out of love
5:30 Five signs you've drifted
15:00 Why it happens: parenting and deprioritising the relationship
20:00 What actually works
23:00 Bids for connection and the emotional piggy bank
27:00 How to start the conversation
32:00 Picking the right time
35:00 The marathon session story

Resources and Links
Relationship Reset course
Open-ended questions for couples
Marathon sessions at The Therapy Hub

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