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Jonathan Pageau
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    477 - Louise Perry - How Progressivism Took Over Our Stories

    02/09/2026 | 1h 24 mins.
    Louise Perry is a British journalist, author, and host of the Maiden Mother Matriarch Podcast. She’s a columnist for the Wall Street Journal and has been described as a leading reactionary feminist. She interviewed me for us to discuss why progressivism became such a powerful cultural force, how the postwar story shaped modern politics and storytelling, and why fairy tales still preserve patterns that our culture has tried to flatten or subvert.
    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/HVRY6WP4hFA
    Her website: https://www.louisemperry.co.uk/
    Her X account: https://x.com/Louise_m_perry
    Register now for the Universal History Masterclass hosted by Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin: ⁠https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass⁠

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    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    476 - Matt Rhodes - The World Before the Flood Reimagined

    28/08/2026 | 44 mins.
    In this conversation with artist Matt Rhodes, we explore Dead Gods, his epic comic set in the world before the biblical Flood. We talk about Nephilim, Watchers, ancient patriarchs, dragons, dinosaurs, and what civilization might look like when people live for centuries and Noah himself becomes a warrior at the end of the world.

    Matt’s website: https://www.mattrhodesart.com/
    His YouTube channel where you can follow the creation process: https://www.youtube.com/@mattrhodesart
    Project trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP7ETbjN9yE
    Support this project directly: https://www.patreon.com/MattRhodesArt

    Register now for the Universal History Masterclass hosted by Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin: ⁠https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass⁠

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    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    475 - Jay Dyer - The Elites Are Doing Warfare on the Public

    25/08/2026 | 1h 18 mins.
    In this conversation with Jay Dyer, we look at predictive programming, propaganda, Hollywood, and the growing role of AI in shaping how we imagine the future. We also discuss technocracy, centralization, and why the most important response may be much closer to home: rebuilding strong families, parishes, and local communities.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/qdMVVyxEL3k
    Register now for the Universal History Masterclass hosted by Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, taking place live this August and September. ⁠https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass⁠

    Website: thesymbolicworld.com
    Timestamps:
    00:00 – Coming up
    01:31 – Introduction
    03:32 – What Is Predictive Programming?
    08:32 – Propaganda, Art, and Soft Power
    14:48 – Hollywood and the Intelligence Agencies
    18:03 – Preparing the Public for War
    22:33 – Hollywood’s Revolutionary Narrative
    28:58 – Globalism, Nationalism, and the Nation-State
    31:50 – The Power of Invisible Institutions
    36:39 – Why Dystopias Can Still Condition Us
    43:07 – The Real Temptation of The Matrix
    46:11 – Social Engineering Through Entertainment
    49:01 – Why Promote Self-Destructive Narratives?
    53:39 – Long-Term Planning and the Technocratic Vision
    57:55 – Toward a Global Technocratic State
    01:01:40 – Has AI Replaced the Old Narratives?
    01:05:23 – AI and the Logic of Inevitability
    01:10:47 – Technology, Power, and Centralization
    01:13:11 – The Christian Alternative: Subsidiarity
    01:17:35 – Conclusion
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    474 - Josh Nadeau - The Return of a Christian Imagination

    21/08/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    In this conversation with Josh Nadeau, we talk about art, beauty, symbolism, and the recovery of a Christian imagination. We explore why traditional art still speaks so powerfully, how beauty can reveal realities that arguments often cannot, and why the work of artists may matter more than ever in a fragmented world.
    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/mE1EMCxGuvI
    Check out Josh Nadeau’s work:
    Sword and Pencil Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/swordandpencil/
    Every Day Saints Substack: https://substack.com/@everydaysaints
    His books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0DNX73MZC
    Register now for the Universal History Masterclass hosted by Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, taking place live this August and September. ⁠https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass⁠
    Our website: thesymbolicworld.com
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    473 - Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick - Paradise Is Already Breaking Into the World

    19/08/2026 | 1h 29 mins.
    Story time with Fr. Andrew! In this episode with Fr. Andrew Damick, we explore the symbolism of paradise through a fairy tale, a Norse saga, and the Christian tradition. We look at how the path to paradise is often revealed through humility, sacrifice, death, and transformation —and how these old stories can help us understand the relationship between heaven and earth.

    YouTube version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwp36RyLkPQ

    Join us this September in Oxford for a Symbolic World Summit (there are literally only 5 or so tickets remaining): https://symbolicworldsummit.com/

    Register now for the Universal History Masterclass hosted by Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, taking place live this August and September. https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/universal-history-masterclass
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About The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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