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The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau
The Symbolic World
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  • The Symbolic World

    436 - Reflections on the Void: negativity and difference in the Bible and contemporary thinking

    19/02/2026 | 51 mins.
    In this episode I try to circle around something that is very difficult to speak about directly — the void.
    From the opening verses of Genesis, where the earth is described as “empty and void,” we are confronted with a mystery that runs through Scripture, philosophy, and our own experience. What is the “not that” which underlies being? Why has the modern world become so fascinated with negativity, difference, and alterity? And how do we understand the necessary — yet possibly dangerous — role of emptiness in the structure of reality?

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/10DS7IxOVro

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    NEW COURSE: The Art of Imitating Heaven: Structure and Meaning in Ancient Cosmology By Joshua Sturgill
    What is heaven? Where is it? For ancient people, the answer was obvious: simply look up at the night sky. For them, to see the stars and planets was to see the face of the divine. Christianity, too, understood the visible sky as the realm of unfallen creation. What does this belief mean, and why was it lost?
    🗓 Live classes are on Sundays at 5-6:30pm Eastern Time, starting February 1st through March 8th, 2026.
    💰 Price: $150 USD (Involved patrons qualify for a 10% discount)
    ⏰ Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-art-of-imitating-heaven
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    Mentioned:
    -Symbolism Explained: The Fundamental WWII Duality That Still Haunts Us Today: https://youtu.be/vLpEDlgEleg?si=w45xD3-uGdx2WOo4
    -The World War II Consensus is Breaking Down: https://youtu.be/MfXxQW77cQA?si=7TnLlu7uq--Fej3D
    -GodsDog: https://store.thesymbolicworld.com/collections/godsdog
    -My recent video on the Parable of the Wedding Feast: https://youtu.be/YRMlQiNkSpE?si=JF3fy7RdFR8FtxO2

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:03 - Intro music
    01:28 - Introduction
    05:22 - The role of the void
    06:36 - The separation of heaven and earth
    09:13 - Not that
    11:18 - Let the earth produce
    14:32 - Asking questions
    16:07 - The ancient perspective
    20:38 - Earth being earth
    22:15 - The tree of good and bad
    29:44 - What is sin?
    32:37 - Examples of sin
    33:53 - Judging difference
    35:01 - Postmodern thinking
    36:07 - Sadism and masochism
    40:11 - The Mother of God
    43:51 - Since WW2
    48:08 - Outro

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    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    435 - The Song of Creation (Charleston talk)

    12/02/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    In this talk at St. Michael’s Church in Charleston, I walk through the seven days of creation as presented in Genesis, exploring creation as a divine song: a rhythm of heaven and earth, light and darkness, above and below. 

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/p2kb9ggwrp0

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    NEW COURSE: The Art of Imitating Heaven: Structure and Meaning in Ancient Cosmology By Joshua Sturgill
    What is heaven? Where is it? For ancient people, the answer was obvious: simply look up at the night sky. For them, to see the stars and planets was to see the face of the divine. Christianity, too, understood the visible sky as the realm of unfallen creation. What does this belief mean, and why was it lost?
    🗓 Live classes are on Sundays at 5-6:30pm Eastern Time, starting February 1st through March 8th, 2026.
    💰 Price: $150 USD (Involved patrons qualify for a 10% discount)
    ⏰ Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-art-of-imitating-heaven
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:57 - Intro music
    01:22 - Introduction
    05:18 - Day 1
    15:20 - Day 2
    21:53 - Day 3
    33:34 - Day 4
    38:31 - Day 5
    45:51 - Day 6

    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive montly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
  • The Symbolic World

    434 - Immigration and Tolerance: Christians Are Not Called to Be “Nice”

    12/02/2026 | 21 mins.
    Many are called. Not all are chosen.
    There is a widespread idea that Christianity is about being “nice,” endlessly tolerant, and endlessly open. But that idea does not survive a careful reading of the Gospel.
    In this video, I look at the parable of the Wedding Feast and explain why Christ’s invitation to everyone does not mean the acceptance of everything. Using this parable, I explore how compassion can become weaponized, how inclusion without a standard of conformity leads to chaos, and why both churches and nations must have limits if they are to remain what they are. This is not a political argument, but a symbolic and theological one—about how bodies, communities, and kingdoms actually function.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/YRMlQiNkSpE
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    NEW COURSE: The Art of Imitating Heaven: Structure and Meaning in Ancient Cosmology By Joshua Sturgill
    What is heaven? Where is it? For ancient people, the answer was obvious: simply look up at the night sky. For them, to see the stars and planets was to see the face of the divine. Christianity, too, understood the visible sky as the realm of unfallen creation. What does this belief mean, and why was it lost?
    🗓 Live classes are on Sundays at 5-6:30pm Eastern Time, starting February 1st through March 8th, 2026.
    💰 Price: $150 USD (Involved patrons qualify for a 10% discount)
    ⏰ Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-art-of-imitating-heaven
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    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 
    🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    433 - Symbolism Happens! The Mandela Effect Is Not a Glitch in the Matrix

    30/01/2026 | 22 mins.
    I explore the Mandela Effect from a symbolic perspective. The Mandela Effect is a psychological phenomenon where a large group of people collectively share the same false memory of an event, detail, or pop culture fact. It has stirred up conspiracy theories about parallel timelines and simulation theory. In this video I suggest the possibility that it's a strength, rather than a weakness, of human cognition - a sign of how consciousness forms coherence, how legends accumulate, and how symbols shape the way we see and remember the world.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/B-x5Ze04YEI

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    NEW COURSE: The Art of Imitating Heaven: Structure and Meaning in Ancient Cosmology By Joshua Sturgill
    What is heaven? Where is it? For ancient people, the answer was obvious: simply look up at the night sky. For them, to see the stars and planets was to see the face of the divine. Christianity, too, understood the visible sky as the realm of unfallen creation. What does this belief mean, and why was it lost?
    🗓 Live classes are on Sundays at 5-6:30pm Eastern Time, starting February 1st through March 8th, 2026.
    💰 Price: $150 USD
    ⏰🐥 DON'T MISS OUT! UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST YOU CAN GET THE EARLY BIRD SPECIAL OF 15% OFF! Discount automatically applied at checkout.
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-art-of-imitating-heaven
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    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 
    🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    432 - Yelena Popovic - Moses the Black

    25/01/2026 | 55 mins.
    I speak with filmmaker Yelena Popovic, who viewers may recognize as the director of the stunning film of the life of St. Nektarios of Aegina, Man of God (2021). In this interview we discuss her upcoming film, Moses the Black, releasing January 30th of this year. We talk about film making, her inspiration for the film, the people involved, the life story of St. Moses the Black, and repentance in general in the Orthodox faith.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/rzDVfbhaaGU

    Film synopsis: Released from prison, a feared Chicago gang leader returns home to avenge the murder of his closest friend. As rival gangs and a corrupt cop close in, he must confront a past that refuses to let go.
    Release date: 30 January 2026 (USA)
    Director: Yelena Popovic
    Producers: Yelena Popovic, Alexandros Potter, Jelena Popović, Brett Hays
    Executive producers: Omar Epps, 50 Cent, Wiz Khalifa et al.
    Production companies: G-Unit Films and Television Inc., Simeon Entertainment, LLC, BrooklynWorks Films
    Running time: 1h 50m

    Theatres Showtimes Ticket Link: https://hubs.la/Q03Znnjy0

    Stay up to date about the film:
    Trailer: https://youtu.be/iZzpiu8L21Y?si=ZxXRxWuiL_yosuEY 
    Website: https://simeonfaith.com/films/moses-the-black-2024 
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mosestheblackmovie 
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mosestheblackmovie/ 
    IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32542065/ 

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:14 - Intro music
    01:39 - Start
    02:32 - Introducing St. Moses the Black
    08:50 - St. Moses' death
    13:32 - The movie vs the hagiography
    31:29 - A harsh redemption
    35:13 - Sorry is not enough
    37:36 - See the whole story
    42:32 - Stories of St. Moses
    44:24 - Fr. Turbo
    49:45 - How can we watch this?
    51:43 - Other projects

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    NEW COURSE: The Art of Imitating Heaven: Structure and Meaning in Ancient Cosmology By Joshua Sturgill
    What is heaven? Where is it? For ancient people, the answer was obvious: simply look up at the night sky. For them, to see the stars and planets was to see the face of the divine. Christianity, too, understood the visible sky as the realm of unfallen creation. What does this belief mean, and why was it lost?
    🗓 Live classes are on Sundays at 5-6:30pm Eastern Time, starting February 1st through March 8th, 2026.
    💰 Price: $150 USD
    ⏰🐥 DON'T MISS OUT! UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST YOU CAN GET THE EARLY BIRD SPECIAL OF 15% OFF! Discount automatically applied at checkout.
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-art-of-imitating-heaven
    ====================

    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau 
    🔒 BECOME A PATRON: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe 
    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/

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Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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