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- Just what the Doctor ordered: a very, very serious grab bag of topics. This week, Savannah and Lee discuss a few developments since they recorded the Aslan episode, Carl Lentz's fall and reemergence into the public eye, and a listener correction about the Macklemore and Ed Sheeran episode. So grab your favorite serious snack for this serious conversation and seriously DM us with any thoughts, questions, or suggestions!
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Have We Lost the Lost Art of Hospitality? by Nathan E. Lewis on Substack
Christ in the Rubble by Munther Isaac
One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This by Omar El Akkad
Munther Isaac on No Small Endeavor
Can Pastors Be Disqualified - Holy Post Media
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09/11/2026 | 50 mins.The promises arrive daily now. An AI that will plan your kid’s birthday party, write your essay for you, tell you just what to say in that hard conversation with your boss. Every obstacle cleared from our path. What’s being offered is a kind of freedom. But freedom from what, exactly?
Tech philosopher and author of the acclaimed book The AI Mirror, Shannon Vallor joins Lee C. Camp for a far-ranging conversation about what we stand to lose in the AI revolution, and what we might gain: a way to reclaim our human potential for moral and intellectual growth.
This is part 1 of our 2-part series: The Cost of Outsourcing Your Humanity to AI.
This project was made possible through the support of a grant from Templeton World Charity Foundation, Inc funder DOI 501100011730) through grant https://doi.org/10.54224/35684. The opinions expressed in this publication are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of Templeton World Charity Foundation, Inc.
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Can’t stop replaying what you wish you had said to someone instead? Or maybe your inner monologue won’t stop asking, "What did they mean by that comment?” Our guest today explains the function of our mental ruminations and how to stop them. Donna Jackson Nakazawa is an award-winning science journalist, and in her new book Mind Drama: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist, she shares what to do when your thoughts start spiraling.
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Still recovering from the midterm? Same. Take a breather and join Lee and Savannah for a conversation about faith, politics, and having an existential crisis at the ballot box. What does it look like to vote like Jesus? Or maybe the better question is: what if the real test of Christian faith isn’t how we vote, but whether our politics look anything like Jesus?
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Prayer in Open D by Emmylou Harris
London Falling by Patrick Radden Keefe
Say Nothing on Disney+
Collusion by Luke Harding
Dunning-Kruger Effect
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Scandalous Witness by Lee C. Camp
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices - Can’t stop replaying what you wish you had said to someone instead? Or maybe your inner monologue won’t stop asking, "What did they mean by that comment?” Our guest today explains the function of our mental ruminations and how to stop them. Donna Jackson Nakazawa is an award-winning science journalist, and in her new book Mind Drama: The Science of Rumination and How to Outwit Your Inner Defeatist, she shares what to do when your thoughts start spiraling.
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What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?
On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.
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