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Warfare of Art & Law Podcast

Stephanie Drawdy
Warfare of Art & Law Podcast
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    Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers' Director & Founder Alana Kushnir on Antisemitism in the Arts, Education on the Depth of Jewish Culture and History, and the Moral Component of Justice

    28/03/2026 | 53 mins.
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    Photographer credit: Simon Strong
    Here is more information about Alana Kushnir and Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers.
    Show Notes:
    1:45 update since Alana’s 2021 interview at Ep. 43
    3:45 rebranding to Aurelian Lawyers & Advisers
    5:00 LinkedIn posts by Alana and Guest Work Agency
    8:00 antisemitism in the arts  
    13:00 resignation from Australian Centre for Contemporary Art’s Board
    13:35 Australian news article led to her public cancellation 
    15:55 Serpentine Gallery's removal of her after 5 years as the lead on its research programme, The Legal Lab
    20:00 steps forward to address hypocrisy in the arts sector
    20:55 service on Jewish Museum of Australia’s board
    21:40 her curation of Chutzpah: Spirit. Recollection. Self.
    23:20 Georgian Artist Nina Sanadze's “Call to Peace” Series
    27:40 Sanadze’s use of flowers from Bondi Massacre in future sculpture
    30:30 Israeli-German Artist Elinor Sahm’s "Ha'layla"
    31:30 Simm’s family archive used to show a Jerusalemite-Sepheradic “Hafla” (traditional celebration and gathering)
    33:35 Alana's aim to bring back the depth of Jewish culture and history
    37:25 Alana’s dream project to highlight the Jewish community's contribution to Australia's culture, especially Jewish women
    39:30 education to bring together Jewish and non-Jewish communities
    42:50 current relevance of the Holocaust
    45:00 Jewish community from former USSR at the Bondi massacre
    46:50 moral courage as a form of justice
    48:00 legacy to create culture not fear, to emphasize integrity and loyalty 
    49:15 her work with Arts Patron and Hospitality Icon Rinaldo Di Stasio 
    50:05  Di Stasio’s commission of Artist Sean Gladwell for a moving image work in flagship restaurant, Di Stasio Città 

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    © Stephanie Drawdy [2026]
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    Iranian-Italian Actor Isabella Nefar on Resilience, Censorship and the Power of Storytelling

    22/02/2026 | 31 mins.
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    Show notes:
    1:30 background
    3:30 My English Persian Kitchen
    5:15 Sheherazade, narrator of One Thousand and One Nights
    5:45 My English Persian Kitchen author Atoosa Sepehr’s efforts to address misconceptions about Iranians 
    7:30 Reading Lolita in Tehran
    9:45 choice of roles that challenge the stereotype about Iranians
    10:10 Apple TV series Tehran
    12:00 defenders of human rights
    14:25 response to Iran’s formal and psychological censorship of creative community
    16:45 Artist Soheila Sokhanvari
    18:30 Women Life Freedom movement
    21:00 global response to human rights’ violations in Iran
    23:00 the meaning of justice in terms of accountability 
    24:20 future projects
    27:25 legacy / mark of her work 
    28:55 creative process and connection with other creatives
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    Music by Toulme.

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]

    Thanks so much for listening!

    This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2026]
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    Multidisciplinary Artist Bayeté Ross Smith on Art, Technology and Restorative Justice

    01/02/2026 | 1h
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    multidisciplinary artist/visual journalist/filmmaker/education worker Bayeté Ross Smith
    Show Notes:
    2:00 Bayeté Ross Smith’s background, work and collaboration
    7:00 relevance of colonialism in transnational issues 
    9:50 collective brain trust/collective culture
    14:30 employing technology with storytelling
    20:30 creatives’ protection of their metadata
    24:40 “art” and “data” as information 
    27:50 “human authorship” and copyright 
    34:25 bias proliferation with AI
    39:40 power of art and media to raise awareness 
    44:50 “restorative justice” to mitigate and deter harm so individuals can flourish
    54:00 current and future projects, including Got the Power Boomboxes: Sugar Cane and Cotton, Hip Hop 50 Boombox, video game project and collaboration with legal community
    Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]

    Music by Toulme.

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]

    Thanks so much for listening!

    This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2026]
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    Steven Gambardella on Stoicism: Its Benefits and Paradoxes

    18/01/2026 | 1h 3 mins.
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    Please visit Steven Gambardella's site here to learn more. 
    Show Notes:
    1:15 background in the arts
    4:00 Dutch philosopher Spinoza’s parallels with Hellenistic philosophies
    5:20 Gambardella’s Become As You Are
    7:30 “Stoic Kitsch” blog post 
    9:00 individual agency and collective action
    11:00 crisis of agency
    11:20 emergence of stoicism
    14:00 four-fold root of virtue
    20:10 four facets of autonomy, perspective, objectivity and control and their relation to the four virtues of wisdom, moderation, justice and courage/fearlessness
    21:25 Steven's blog 
    21:45 Stoic view of justice relates to ignorance
    26:00 moralism
    27:00 Seneca, tutor and advisor to Roman emperor Nero
    32:00 applying ancient Stoic ideas in current day
    35:35 Stoicism and Philosophy Reading Group 
    38:30 summary of Stoicism: Virtue is the only good; and you have full control over the domain of your soul/your “inner citadel”
    40:20 Stoicism at a crossroads 
    43:45 his hope to contribute to a revolution of the soul that encourages a view of the world that is more holistic and spiritual
    45:40 Question from Susanne van der Meer about the paradox in Stoicism about the responsibility of agency versus a Stoic view of incarceration 
    55:00 Stoic view of fear and desire
    1:00:00 Comments from Emily Gould
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    Music by Toulme.

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]

    Thanks so much for listening!

    This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2026]
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    Italian IP, New Tech and Art Law Lawyer Massimo Sterpi on Issues Raised by Generative AI and the Future of Agentic AI

    04/01/2026 | 55 mins.
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    IP attorney Massimo Sterpi
    Massimo Sterpi photo by Eolo Perfido 
    Show Notes:
    1:30 Sterpi’s work with emerging tech
    2:30 shift in use of emerging tech/arts issues
    3:55 Brazilian artist Eduardo Kac's transgenic work
    4:30 blockchain / NFT as a testing area
    5:10 generative AI and copyright
    6:20 copyrighted works as training data 
    12:25 11 Nov 2025 judgment by Munich Regional Court in GEMA v. OpenAI (Case No. 42 O 14139/24)
    14:20 fair use in the US
    17:05 copyright of outputs
    23:55 "A Single Piece of American Cheese"
    26:00 Gema decision’s impact on OpenAI’s business model
    29:00 UK decision in Getty v. Stability AI
    32:30 harmonisation 
    34:20 collective licensing as a solution for AI training
    36:20 view of justice/injustice with emerging tech in the arts
    38:40 cultural impact of emerging tech
    42:00 Christie’s auction of "Portrait of Edmond de Belamy"
    43:40 2024 Venice Biennale - The Conference on Art and AI’s “The Neo-Synthetic: A Dialogue on Art, A.I., and Emergent Aesthetics”
    44:30 expanding area regarding the roles involved in outputs
    46:40 authenticity becoming enigmatic
    47:00 attempts to create digital scarcity
    47:55 different standards of creativity 
    48:30 neighboring rights for AI
    50:00 Italy’s protection of “simple photographs” versus “photographic works”
    50:40 UK’s Section 9(3) copyright of outputs fictionally attributed to human involved
    52:40 Agentic AI  
    Please share your comments and/or questions at [email protected]

    Music by Toulme.

    To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.

    To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at [email protected]

    Thanks so much for listening!

    This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.

    © Stephanie Drawdy [2026]

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