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    #524 Is Rentvesting Dead? w. Jack Henderson

    14/10/2026 | 32 mins.
    The AFR reckons rentvesting is dead now that negative gearing has been wound back. Jack Henderson reckons the AFR has it backwards, and he's paying $3,700 a week in rent while he says it.
    This one moves fast. Jack explains the valuation method most property investors have never heard of, where a property with two incomes on one title gets valued on its rent instead of on what the neighbours sold for, and walks through the duplex where that difference was worth more than a million dollars. He puts a number on what a dollar of rent is worth in value.
    He gets specific about the off-the-plan settlements he thinks are about to go wrong, and the capital gains tax bill you can get on a property that never went up. And he ends with the single piece of research he tells every young investor to do before they touch anything.
    Language warning. Jack talks the way Jack talks. This one isn't for the school run.
    WHAT YOU'LL GET OUT OF IT
    Why rentvesting still works without negative gearing, and where it stops making sense

    The cap rate valuation method, and why it only applies to properties with multiple incomes on one title

    Jack's duplex, a $500k paper loss that became a gain by not subdividing

    What a dollar of rent is worth at a 5% cap rate versus a 3% cap rate

    The off-the-plan settlements about to land 20% under contract price

    Why depreciation can hand you a CGT bill on a property that didn't grow

    The only time Jack thinks you should buy brand new

    What he tells clients who are scared of prices falling further

    Why the tax narrative looks different once you know corporate tax was 49% in the 80s

    The question to ask the oldest person you know

    CHAPTERS
    00:10 Is rentvesting dead?
    01:28 The rent increase Jack refused to pay
    02:32 Has the YAM strategy changed since the budget?
    03:52 The duplex: $5.25m, then $4.7m, then $6.5m
    07:47 When valuers use a cap rate
    08:20 What a dollar of rent is worth
    08:52 The Paddington office at a 2.8% cap rate
    10:06 Everyone's feeling battered. What now?
    11:25 If you do nothing, will you get there?
    12:21 Corporate tax was 49% in the 80s
    14:56 Who actually pays the tax in Australia
    15:43 Worried about valuations falling?
    16:08 Off-the-plan carnage
    17:22 The 5% deposit scheme and negative equity
    19:19 The depreciation trap that creates a CGT bill
    21:43 Will more finished properties come to market?
    22:36 The only time to buy brand new
    25:24 De-risking a falling market
    26:13 Has the playbook changed?
    28:09 So, for the AFR readers, is rentvesting dead?
    28:46 Ask the oldest person you know
    31:35 Buy a fast boat
    GUEST LINKS
    Jack Henderson, Henderson Advocacy: https://henderson.com.au/
    Jack on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jackchenderson/
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    This podcast is for education only and doesn't take into account your personal circumstances. It's not financial advice. If you buy a financial product, read the PDS and TMD, and seek advice tailored to your situation. Ben Nash and Pivot Wealth are authorised representatives of Fish Tacos Pty Ltd, ABN 14 649 248 082, AFSL 533055.
  • Mo Money

    #523 New Tax Changes Bring Trusts and Bucket Companies Back From the Dead

    07/10/2026 | 30 mins.
    On 12 May the budget killed the bucket company. A 30% minimum tax on trust income was the headline, but the real damage was underneath it, because that tax came with no credit when the money moved on to a company. Stack the two together and business owners were looking at an effective rate over 60% on profit they had already been taxed on once.
    On 3 September the government released draft legislation that changes the picture, and Ben walks through exactly what it does. There is a window, it closes on 1 July 2028, and if you make a fixed election on your trust before then, the 30% minimum tax doesn't apply. The trade is that a discretionary trust stops being discretionary, forever.
    Ben runs the numbers on a business making $400k a year and shows a gap of just under $2 million between two owners doing the same thing in different structures. He also covers the strategy the election kills, which is distributing to your adult kids. And he explains why who owns the shares in your bucket company now matters more than it ever has, with a 22-month window that just started.
    WHAT YOU'LL GET OUT OF IT
    What a bucket company is and why business owners built their wealth around it

    How the budget got the effective tax rate on trust distributions above 60%

    What the 3 September draft legislation changes, and when it's expected to pass

    The fixed election, how it works, why it's permanent, and the two things that reset it

    A business making $400k a year, in a company versus personally, over 10 and 30 years

    Why distributing to adult children is now off the table

    Who should own the shares in your bucket company

    What happens to anyone who starts a business after 1 July 2028

    The sequence to follow before the window closes

    CHAPTERS
    00:06 Is the bucket company dead?
    01:10 What a bucket company actually does
    02:53 What the budget did on 12 May
    05:00 The 3 September draft legislation
    06:13 The election window closes 1 July 2028
    08:15 A discretionary trust that isn't discretionary
    10:30 Plan ten years out, not twelve months
    11:35 If you start a business after July 2028
    14:21 Ben paid himself nothing for three years
    15:45 The numbers: $200k a year into a bucket company
    18:33 The adult kids strategy is finished
    20:44 Income versus distribution, and payroll tax
    21:27 Who should own the bucket company
    22:46 Stress test your accountant
    23:23 The 22-month window
    24:02 Stamp duty and why the states said no
    25:57 The sequence to follow before the deadline
    28:00 Don't die wondering
    29:20 Wrap
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    DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for education only and doesn't take into account your personal circumstances. It's not financial advice. If you buy a financial product, read the PDS and TMD, and seek advice tailored to your situation. Ben Nash and Pivot Wealth are authorised representatives of Fish Tacos Pty Ltd, ABN 14 649 248 082, AFSL 533055.
  • Mo Money

    Should You Move to Singapore to Save Tax?

    01/10/2026 | 33 mins.
    Every second call at the moment ends the same way. The budget has tightened the screws, the pay rise didn't move the needle, so what if we just moved to Singapore? Or Dubai. Or Hong Kong.
    Ben and Siobhan ran the numbers, and the first thing they found is that Australia is a lower tax country than the UK, Canada, New Zealand and most of Europe. The catch is where we collect it. Almost 43% of every tax dollar in Australia comes from personal income, one of the heaviest reliances on personal income tax in the developed world, and that is exactly why it feels the way it does.
    From there it gets practical. What you take home on $100k, $250k, $500k and $1 million in Sydney versus Singapore, Hong Kong and Dubai. What those countries charge you instead, from a 60% stamp duty on foreigners to private everything. How you actually get in.
    The tax bill Australia hands you on the way out. And the two residency tests the ATO uses to decide whether you really left, because the people getting caught aren't the ones who moved, they're the ones who pretended to.
    WHAT YOU'LL GET OUT OF IT
    Why Australia's total tax take is below the OECD average, and why it feels worse than that

    Take-home pay on $100k, $250k, $500k and $1m across Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong and Dubai

    Zero capital gains, zero on dividends and zero on interest, and what these countries charge instead

    The employment pass, the top talent pass and the golden visa, and what each one costs to qualify for

    Monaco, the Caribbean, Vanuatu and the other places that make the list

    The deemed disposal tax bill you pay when you leave, without selling anything

    Source tax versus residency tax, and why your Australian property still gets taxed

    The six-month test and the centre of vital economic interest

    Who relocating actually works for, and who ends up worse off

    The tax-smart moves available to you if you stay

    CHAPTERS
    00:07 Should you move to Singapore to save tax?
    01:33 Australia is below the OECD average, with one big but
    03:50 Why the pay rise stopped moving the needle
    04:30 Singapore, Hong Kong and Dubai, why those three
    05:46 Take-home pay on $100k, $250k, $500k and $1m
    08:13 One year in Dubai equals five years here
    09:22 Zero CGT, zero on dividends, zero on interest
    10:09 Tax residency is the whole game
    11:23 How these countries tax you instead
    12:13 Getting in: employment passes, talent passes and golden visas
    15:37 Monaco, the Caribbean and Vanuatu
    19:21 The deemed disposal bill on the way out
    20:20 Source tax versus residency tax
    24:19 The six-month test and centre of vital economic interest
    26:16 Line-ball residency cases
    28:37 Who this actually works for
    29:38 Is it worth six months away from your family?
    30:36 The tax-smart moves if you stay
    32:33 Wrap
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    Replace Your Salary by Investing: https://amzn.to/3J9Ta8g
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    DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for education only and doesn't take into account your personal circumstances. It's not financial advice. If you buy a financial product, read the PDS and TMD, and seek advice tailored to your situation. Ben Nash and Pivot Wealth are authorised representatives of Fish Tacos Pty Ltd, ABN 14 649 248 082, AFSL 533055.
  • Mo Money

    The Post-Budget Investing Playbook w. Hugh Robertson

    24/09/2026 | 47 mins.
    Hugh Robertson reckons the world changed for Aussie investors on 12 May. For years the playbook
    was simple. Earn well, borrow, negatively gear into residential property and let the market do the
    rest. The budget took a fair chunk of that off the table, and now a lot of people with money to put to
    work are asking the same question. What's the play now?
    Hugh runs Centaur Financial Services, sits on the Barron's Top 100 adviser list, and has been a
    mate of Ben's for over a decade, which means he doesn't get to be diplomatic. In this one he walks
    through exactly what his firm changed in client portfolios after the budget, why they've gone
    underweight Australian shares, and the asset classes they're now allocating to that they never
    touched before.
    We also get into the commercial property pitch flooding everyone's feed, and why two emerging
    markets ETFs can hold completely different countries. Hugh explains what big tech raising debt tells
    you about where the US market sits, and puts Ben through the maths question about a 50% fall that
    trips up almost everyone. Then the honest bit on stock picking, why only around one in ten active
    managers beats the index over a decade, and what Hugh thinks matters most for investors over the
    next six to 12 months.

    CHAPTERS (raw recording times, re-map to the final cut before publishing)
    00:00 Intro and the list that actually counts
    01:27 The world changed on 12 May
    03:38 Where ambitious investors go now
    04:06 The commercial property trap
    06:48 What Centaur changed in its portfolios after the budget
    08:17 The nanny state and the aspirational investor
    11:00 How much the CGT changes drove the shift to global
    12:11 The fully franked dividend obsession
    13:12 Total return and where wealth sits once trusts are gone
    14:26 ETF, managed fund or direct
    15:17 Investing at all-time highs
    16:58 AI after the picks and shovels
    18:49 Emerging markets and the South Korea trade
    20:09 Two emerging markets ETFs, two very different baskets
    21:01 Staying in the US and backing the jockey
    22:06 Same profit, half the price
    22:47 Infrastructure as inflation protection
    24:09 Locked-up money and closed-end funds
    24:44 Private markets, evergreen funds and secondaries
    25:59 Comparison is the thief of joy
    26:42 Is the US market overcooked?
    28:10 The canary in the coal mine
    29:20 SpaceX, IPOs and Aussie super money
    31:07 Where the opportunity actually is
    33:47 Global small caps and the information edge
    36:21 Only one in ten active managers beats the index
    37:22 Accumulators want volatility, retirees don't
    38:09 The maths test almost everyone fails
    39:17 GFC lessons and the free lunch
    40:44 When DIY stops making sense
    42:52 Boring portfolio, interesting life
    43:34 Don't get mad at your adviser when markets fall
    45:06 The most important thing for the next six to 12 months
    46:29 Why not to ask AI for financial advice


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    BEN'S BOOKS
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    Replace Your Salary by Investing: https://amzn.to/3J9Ta8g
    Get Unstuck: https://amzn.to/3xo0MQG
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    DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for education only and doesn't take into account your personal circumstances. It's
    not financial advice. If you buy a financial product, read the PDS and TMD, and seek advice tailored
    to your situation. Ben Nash and Pivot Wealth are authorised representatives of Fish Tacos Pty Ltd,
    ABN 14 649 248 082, AFSL 533055.
  • Mo Money

    A Six-Figure Tax Bill and No Way to Pay It [Money Diaries w. Maddy and James]

    17/09/2026 | 39 mins.
    Maddy and James are both senior, both earning well, and last year they opened a tax bill with six figures on it and no idea how they were going to pay it.
    The problem was never income. It was employer equity. Every vest built the paper wealth and the tax liability at the same time, and they'd been covering it by selling shares and draining savings, three times over. Then they upgraded the house, sold more stock to fund the stamp duty, and the cycle got worse.
    This is how they got out of what they call tax jail, and what changed once they did. Twelve months on they're comfortably up six figures, they've got pre-approval on an investment property, an ETF portfolio, and they're talking to architects about the renovation.
     
    WHAT YOU'LL GET OUT OF IT
    Why a bigger salary and an equity comp plan created a problem instead of solving one

    The trap of selling shares to pay the tax on shares, over and over

    Concentration risk when your income and your portfolio come from the same company

    Why they held every vest for years, and the moment that changed

    Getting burned by a previous adviser, and what they would look for now

    How the budget capital gains changes made them pause an investment property

    Ten years of lost super across four funds, and how it finally got fixed

    Why top few percent earners still end up shuffling money at the end of the month

    Debt recycling, offsets and the strategies they had never heard of

     
    CHAPTERS
    00:03  Rapid fire round
    07:09  Intro
    07:35  Senior, well paid, and still stretched
    09:53  The moment the tax bill landed
    10:32  How they found out, and the options they weighed
    11:35  How they'd been handling it before
    12:43  What Sunday night money chats looked like
    14:16  The moment they decided to act
    15:05  Concentration risk in employer shares
    18:00  What it would have cost to keep going
    18:58  Getting burned by a previous adviser
    21:43  Selling vested shares, then versus now
    25:12  What they used to believe about money
    27:25  What surprised them about the process
    29:47  The decision they now make differently
    31:27  What used to keep them up at night
    32:43  What's possible now that wasn't 12 months ago
    33:29  A refinance in five days
    33:59  What's different day to day
    36:19  Ten years of lost super, sorted in weeks
    37:07  What actually changed about their lifestyle
    38:41  Sunday night money chats now
    39:39  Why they paused the investment property after the budget
    42:11  What Ian said that stuck
    44:00  What makes the fees worth paying
    45:27  Advice to their 21 year old selves



    Smarter money moves start here.
    Learn how to cut through the noise, avoid expensive mistakes, and get ahead faster.
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    WORK WITH US
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    BEN'S BOOKS
    Virgin Millionaire: https://amzn.to/3VFPPDM
    Replace Your Salary by Investing: https://amzn.to/3J9Ta8g
    Get Unstuck: https://amzn.to/3xo0MQG
    All books: https://www.pivotwealth.com.au/books
    FOLLOW
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    DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for education only and doesn't take into account your personal circumstances. It's not financial advice. If you buy a financial product, read the PDS and TMD, and seek advice tailored to your situation. Ben Nash and Pivot Wealth are authorised representatives of Fish Tacos Pty Ltd, ABN 14 649 248 082, AFSL 533055.
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Mo Money is your go-to podcast for practical, no-BS strategies to help you save more, invest smarter and build real wealth so you can stop relying on your salary and start building financial freedom. Hosted by Ben Nash, award-winning financial adviser, best-selling author and founder of Pivot Wealth, this show cuts through the noise to give you clear, actionable insights on money, investing, property, shares and financial planning and challenge the conventional advice that keeps most people stuck. Drawing on experience helping thousands of Australians build wealth, each episode breaks down what actually works when it comes to: - Growing your wealth through smart investing - Managing your money with confidence - Avoiding common financial mistakes - Building passive income and long-term financial security - Making better decisions with your money faster Designed for professionals, business owners and anyone serious about getting ahead financially, whether you're starting out, scaling up or looking to replace your income through investing, Mo Money gives you the tools, frameworks and strategies to take control of your financial future. Follow the podcast to stay ahead with smarter money decisions each week.
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