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The Contrarians with Adam and Adir

Adam Schwab and Adir Shiffman
The Contrarians with Adam and Adir
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  • The Contrarians with Adam and Adir

    Canva’s AI Crisis, Zoox Changes Everything, Xero’s Ad Disaster, Jetstar’s Bag War, and Atlassian’s Profit Pivot

    10/08/2026 | 1h 56 mins.
    Adam and Adir discuss Zoox, Waymo, autonomous cars, Xero’s strange Vegas advertising, Sukhinder Singh Cassidy, Victoria’s work-from-home laws, Delta One, airline lounges, Jetstar’s carry-on bag crackdown, Ryanair, Canva’s slowing growth, AI design tools, Claude, OpenAI, Figma, Atlassian’s profit pivot and the future of Australia’s biggest tech companies.
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    Canva’s $60bn Problem and eBay’s Corporate Terrorism Scandal

    07/08/2026 | 25 mins.
    Adam and Adir discuss Canva’s slowing growth, its $60 billion valuation, Figma, Meta, AI design tools, OpenAI, Anthropic, the pressure on Australia’s biggest private tech company, eBay’s corporate terrorism scandal, the Steiners, Devin Wenig, CEO accountability, the $55 million settlement and why corporate consequences rarely reach the top.
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    AI Fund Explodes, Alan Joyce is Back, Victoria’s Labor Reset, Fauci’s COVID Reckoning and Credit Card Chaos

    03/08/2026 | 1h 24 mins.
    Adam and Adir discuss Ben Carroll replacing Jacinta Allan, Victoria’s work-from-home laws, credit card fees, AI chatbots, bad customer experience, the “logo CEO” problem, Qantas, Alan Joyce, self-managed super property changes, Gen Z drinking habits, OSW and the battery boom, Anthony Fauci, COVID lockdowns, Leopold Aschenbrenner’s AI fund blow-up, Anthropic, Nvidia and the AI bubble.
    01:07 - Victoria's Leadership Change
    06:52 - Credit Cards
    13:20 - AI Customer Service
    18:26 - Logo Changes and Rebrands
    27:08 - Alan Joyce
    41:08. - Property Rules
    51:59 - OSW
    1:03:22 - Fauci, COVID and the Pandemic Reckoning
    1:16:30 - Leo Lats, AI Leverage and Bubble Behaviour

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    Tesla Going Down...Down, Immutable’s Massive Fall and Australia’s Unicorn Bubble

    31/07/2026 | 36 mins.
    Adam and Adir discuss Tesla’s profit collapse, Elon Musk’s valuation premium, robotaxis, self-driving, BYD, SpaceX, Starlink, Richard White, Immutable, blockchain gaming, NFTs, crypto tokens, Australia’s unicorn bubble and the $3.5 billion valuation that never made sense.
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    AI Bubble, Waymo Ditches Uber, Jacinta Allan’s Disaster, KPMG Scandal and Jim Chalmers’ Crashes Housing in All the Wrong Places

    27/07/2026 | 1h 29 mins.
    Adam and Adir discuss the Labor Party conference, Ed Husic, Jacinta Allan’s political problems, Victoria’s unemployment rate, a 1998 celebrity earnings quiz, Etched and the AI chip race, Nvidia, OpenAI, KPMG’s Lendlease audit scandal, Waymo vs Uber, Revolut, bank fees, Jim Chalmers’ housing policy and Australia’s property risk.
    Watch the video Adam mentions: https://www.instagram.com/reels/DbNXhESCeXM/
    2:06 - Ed Husic and the Gaza Debate
    8:46 - Jacinta Allen and Victorian Labor
    13:45 - Work From Home Laws
    19:19 - Highest Earning Celebrities of 1998
    35:33 - Nvidia's Margin Problem
    57:11 - KPMG
    1:00:36 - Waymo
    1:09:53 - Mid Roll
    1:10:17 - Revolut
    1:17:53 - First Home Buyers
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About The Contrarians with Adam and Adir
Get the fearless truth about start-ups and corporate Australia from guys that give you the hard facts, not the company line. Hear Luxury Escapes co-founder Adam Schwab and Catapult Sports Exec Chairman Adir Shiffman provide the inside word on the biggest stories in business with a contrarian take from the guys who sit on both sides of the table. New episodes dropping weekly.
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