The Pomp Podcast

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we discuss rising geopolitical tensions, higher oil prices, and growing risks in private credit and global markets. We also explore bitcoin’s resilience, how AI is disrupting software and jobs, and why Jordy believes commodities, liquidity, and volatility will shape the next major investment cycle.
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0:00 - Intro
0:44 - Iran conflict & oil market shock
8:09 - Commodity bull market thesis
11:11 - Inflation risks & recession probabilities
15:30 - How high could oil go?
18:19 - Bitcoin vs gold performance discussion
21:12 - Bitcoin as a global “escape hatch” asset
29:20 - Inflation vs AI-driven deflation debate
33:00 - AI disruption & labor market impact
40:48 - Software disruption & tech valuations
55:09 - Commodities, compute & future investment themes
57:08 - GPU smuggling & AI geopolitics

Bill Barhydt is the founder and CEO of Abra and a longtime leader in digital assets and crypto wealth management. In this conversation, we discuss bitcoin’s relationship to global liquidity, money printing, and geopolitical risk, as well as why retail investors still drive crypto price action. We also cover new crypto regulation and the Clarity Act, Abra’s plans to go public via SPAC, the rise of tokenized equities and real-world assets, and how AI is transforming financial services and business operations.
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0:00 - Intro
0:55 - Why bitcoin is holding up during war & market panic
5:17 - Private credit, private equity, & where cracks could show
8:40 - Crypto regulation & The Clarity Act
13:18 - Why Abra is going public via SPAC
15:30 - How wealth advisors are changing around crypto
17:51 - Tokenized portfolios & the future of digital assets
22:30 - Will AI replace financial advisors?
25:11 - How Abra uses AI internally & building AI agents
33:33 - Machine-to-machine payments & crypto
36:20 - What’s next for Abra?

Tom Sosnoff is a veteran trader and entrepreneur, the founder of LossDog, and the builder of multiple billion-dollar companies. In this conversation, we discuss why volatility creates opportunity, how he thinks about active investing across asset classes, and why he believes crypto deserves a place in every portfolio. We also talk about options trading, oil and commodity volatility, the rise of self-directed investors, prediction markets, AI’s role in portfolio construction and financial advice, and how Tom is thinking about building the next generation of investing tools.
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0:00 - Why traders stay long crypto in volatile markets
0:52 - The real problem with today’s economy & the future of investing
5:26 - Rise of the self-directed investor
8:55 - How to trade extreme market volatility
11:08 - Why everyone should own bitcoin
12:09 - Selling volatility & options strategies
20:25 - Navigating chaos in today’s macro environment
22:19 - Trader mindset vs entrepreneur mindset
24:29 - Building an AI investing platform
26:38 - Why options trading is exploding
28:30 - Thoughts around Prediction Markets 
32:46 - How AI will disrupt financial advisors
34:40 - Tom’s $1M crypto giveaway

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we discuss the growing cracks in private credit, rising oil prices, inflation pressures, and why Jordy believes the market is underestimating the risk of a broader financial shock. We also talk about bitcoin’s resilience, how AI is disrupting software and business models, what a more liquid and transparent future could look like, and why Jordi thinks the next major opportunity may come after the current wave of volatility.
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0:00 - Intro 
0:44 - Private credit risk / recession question
8:37 - Oil shock, inflation & crisis comparisons
14:21 - Modern warfare, drones & geopolitical risk
18:50 - Housing affordability & consumer pressure
23:07 - Bitcoin resilience during financial stress
30:54 - Private markets vs liquid assets debate
33:05 - AI disruption & collapsing business moats
36:05 - AI-run companies & agent economy
42:20 - How people should start using AI
45:57 - Portfolio positioning & next bitcoin opportunity

Tillman Holloway is the Founder & CEO of Arch Public. In this conversation, we discuss the rise of AI-driven investing and how autonomous agents could reshape portfolio management. We also cover Bitcoin market catalysts, investor behavior during volatility, and how institutions are positioning across crypto and emerging financial products.
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0:00 - Intro
1:03 - Is AI disruption crashing markets?
3:28 - What should AI actually automate in business?
6:43 - How investors are navigating volatility
11:43 - “Agentic investing” — letting AI manage your money
16:46 - Hedge funds, algorithms & high-frequency trading
21:41 - Crypto derivatives, perps & new financial instruments
23:18 - How Arch Public works & consumer investing trends
29:45 - What catalyst sends bitcoin back to all-time highs?
34:33 - Institutional adoption & Wall Street conviction