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  • Bitcoin-Backed Loans Are the Future | Mike Cagney
    Mike Cagney is the Founder and Executive Chairman of Figure. (⁠https://www.figuremarkets.co/fm)⁠ In this conversation we discuss taking Figure public, how block-chain native securities unlock new markets, the rise of DeFi, bitcoin backed loans, and how Figure is modernizing financial infrastructure. ======================Pomp writes a daily letter to over 270,000+ investors about business, technology, and finance. He breaks down complex topics into easy-to-understand language while sharing opinions on various aspects of each industry. You can subscribe at: ⁠https://pomp.substack.com/⁠======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees using a global card, and make instant payments via the Lightning Network for unrivalled access and convenience. Visit ⁠https://www.xapobank.com/pomp⁠ to join.======================BitcoinOS is bringing Bitcoin into a new era. For the first time, Bitcoiners can access real DeFi across the entire crypto ecosystem, powered by revolutionary zero-knowledge technology. BitcoinOS is powered by $BOS token, which reunites all of crypto around the chain where it all began. Enter the $BOS token presale and be early to Bitcoin again.======================Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to build decentralized applications with ease. Backed by industry leaders, making it a preferred choice for big names, Polkadot stands out as a leading choice for investors seeking a reliable, future-proof solution in the growing world of Web3 technology. Learn more at https://polkadot.com/.======================TimeStamps:0:00 - Intro2:11 - Taking Figure public and why it’s good for business 5:52 - Opportunities to improve finance infrastructure 18:26 - Why it’s the “golden moment" for DeFi19:46 - Are regional banks in trouble? 21:45 - Launching a stable coin and GENIUS Act 26:39 - The regulatory shift and now having political support 30:42 - Partnerships and consolidation in the industry 39:27 - Figure is modernizing financial infrastructure 39:55 - Bitcoin backed loans and how it works 44:14 - Advice for entrepreneurs 46:08 - What Figure’s future looks like
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  • Why Bitcoin Will Crash Like Every Other 4 Year Cycle | Henrik Zeberg
    Henrik Zeberg is the Head Macro Economist at Swiss Block. In this conversation we talk about the macro outlook, K-shaped economy, inflation, a potential big tech bust coming, why the 4-year bitcoin cycle is not going anywhere, and why Henrik believes risk assets may be in trouble. ======================Pomp writes a daily letter to over 270,000+ investors about business, technology, and finance. He breaks down complex topics into easy-to-understand language while sharing opinions on various aspects of each industry. You can subscribe at: https://pomp.substack.com/======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================Bitizenship helps Bitcoin-forward investors gain EU residency and a path to Portuguese citizenship in five years while maintaining exposure to Bitcoin. Their regulated fund qualifies you for the Golden Visa through an operating company focused on Bitcoin-native innovation. Book a free strategy call at https://bitizenship.com/pomp.======================Xapo Bank, the world’s first fully licensed Bitcoin-enabled bank, offers military-grade security with an unmatched blend of physical and digital security, as well as pioneering regulatory oversight, so your funds are always protected. Beyond secure storage, they enable you to grow and use your Bitcoin. Earn daily interest in Bitcoin, spend with zero FX fees using a global card, and make instant payments via the Lightning Network for unrivalled access and convenience. Visit https://www.xapobank.com/pomp to join.======================TimeStamps:0:00 - Intro2:14 - Where are we in the macro cycle?10:41 - Are we getting a blow off top in risk assets?13:14 - Historical stock market valuations vs today26:36 - What happens in the next 12 months if we are in a bubble?30:01 - Is bitcoin 4 year cycle different this time?34:33 - Thoughts on where inflation is going38:29 - The framework for being a good investor for the next 10 years42:03 - What does the monetary reset look like?45:54 - How to prepare your investing portfolio
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  • Recession Is Cancelled: Why Bitcoin & Stocks Will Explode | Jordi Visser
    Jordi Visser is a macro investor with over 30 years of Wall Street experience. He also writes a Substack called “VisserLabs” and puts out investing YouTube videos. In this conversation we discuss Oracle going up 40%, what is going on in the stock market, what will happen with interest rates, job revision, AI, bitcoin, interest rates, and where asset prices could be headed. ===================== Markets are at all-time highs. Public equities are outperforming. And individual investors are driving it all. It’s officially the rise of the retail investor. On September 12th in NYC, I’m hosting the Independent Investor Summit — a one-day event built exclusively for self-directed investors. We’re bringing together some of the smartest public market investors I know for a full day of macro insights, market predictions, one-on-one fireside chats, and actionable investment ideas from each investor. This is going to be an absolute banger event. Join us if you like markets and think retail is two steps ahead of Wall Street.👉 TICKETS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.independentinvestor.co/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (use promo code POMPYT25)======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================This episode is brought to you by Figure ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(https://figuremarkets.co/pomp)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, the platform to Earn and Borrow. Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Figure offers Crypto-Backed Loans, allowing you to borrow against your Bitcoin or Ethereum with 12-month terms and no prepayment penalties. They have the lowest rates in the industry at 8.91%, allowing you to access instant cash or buy more Bitcoin without triggering a tax event.Your BTC collateral is protected by decentralized MPC custody. You can always see your BTC ownership in your FM account and verify holdings in your personal BTC vault on chain. Unlock your crypto’s potential today. Visit their app to apply ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠(https://figuremarkets.co/pomp)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for a Crypto Backed Loan today! Figure Lending LLC dba Figure. Equal Opportunity Lender. NMLS 1717824. Terms and conditions apply. Visit figure.com for more information. Figure Markets Credit LLC. 650 S. Tryon Street, 8th Floor, Charlotte, NC 28202. (888) 926-6259. NMLS ID 2559612. Terms and conditions apply. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://figuremarkets.com/borrow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for more information.======================Bitwise is one of the largest and fastest-growing crypto asset managers. As of December 31, 2021, the company managed over $1.3 billion across an expanding suite of investment solutions, which include the world's largest crypto index fund and other innovative products spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, DeFi, and crypto equities. Whether you’re an individual, advisor, or institution, Bitwise provides intelligent access to crypto with your unique circumstances in mind. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bitwiseinvestments.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more. Certain of the Bitwise investment products may be subject to the extreme risks associated with investing in crypto assets. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://bitwiseinvestments.com/disclosures⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more.======================TimeStamps:0:00 - Intro1:53 - Why are there massive moves in the stock market?4:32 - What’s going on with inflation and tariffs 10:19 - Is there an argument to be bearish? 13:42 - Is there a possibility of a recession? 17:16 - Humans are now competing against machines 22:13 - Job growth revised down by 911,00026:44 - Mortgage market and will homes become more affordable? 29:06 - How does US win AI race?34:52 - What is happening with interest rates? 38:52 - Takeaways from Robinhood event 43:43 - What will happen with bitcoin?
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  • Why Bitcoin’s Next Bull Run Could Be Unlike Any Other | Jeff Park
    Jeff Park is a Partner and Chief Investing Officer of ProCap BTC. In this conversation we talk about what’s going on with bitcoin, S&P500 rejecting Strategy, why bitcoin is lagging gold, should lower interest rates push bitcoin higher, how we are thinking about the bull market, evaluating Gemini & Figure IPOs, and why retail investors can’t be ignored. ===================== Markets are at all-time highs. Public equities are outperforming. And individual investors are driving it all. It’s officially the rise of the retail investor. On September 12th in NYC, I’m hosting the Independent Investor Summit — a one-day event built exclusively for self-directed investors. We’re bringing together some of the smartest public market investors I know for a full day of macro insights, market predictions, one-on-one fireside chats, and actionable investment ideas from each investor. This is going to be an absolute banger event. Join us if you like markets and think retail is two steps ahead of Wall Street.👉 TICKETS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.independentinvestor.co/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (use promo code POMPYT25)======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Core is the leading Bitcoin scaling solution, enabling you to lock in yield by locking up your Bitcoin. Simply lock it on the Bitcoin blockchain to secure the Core network, and get rewards. No bridging. No lending. Just holding. Still your keys. Still your coins. Now your yield. Start at ⁠https://stake.coredao.org/pomp⁠======================⁠BitcoinIRA⁠: Buy, sell, and swap 75+ cryptocurrencies in your retirement account. Take 3 minutes to open your account & get connected to a team of IRA specialists that will guide you through every step of the process. Go to ⁠https://bitcoinira.com/pomp/⁠ to earn up to $500 in rewards.======================TimeStamps:0:00- Intro2:04 - Thoughts from S&P 500 rejecting Strategy11:25 - Relationship between gold and bitcoin19:27 - How high could bitcoin go this bull market?29:58 - Evaluating Gemini, Figure, & crypto IPOs33:16 - “We can’t ignore retail investors”
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  • Financial Advisors Are All-In On Bitcoin Now | Ric Edelman
    Ric Edelman is the Founder of Digital Assets Council of Financial Professionals, and he is a New York Times #1 best seller of 13 different books. In this conversation we talk about why financial advisors are finally getting excited about bitcoin, conversations they are having with their clients, the death of 60/40, gold, currency debasement, and why Ric has recommended having 10-40% exposure to bitcoin. ===================== Markets are at all-time highs. Public equities are outperforming. And individual investors are driving it all. It’s officially the rise of the retail investor. On September 12th in NYC, I’m hosting the Independent Investor Summit — a one-day event built exclusively for self-directed investors. We’re bringing together some of the smartest public market investors I know for a full day of macro insights, market predictions, one-on-one fireside chats, and actionable investment ideas from each investor. This is going to be an absolute banger event. Join us if you like markets and think retail is two steps ahead of Wall Street.👉 TICKETS: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.independentinvestor.co/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (use promo code POMPYT25)======================Check out my NEW show for daily bite-sized breakdowns of the biggest stories in finance, technology, and politics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://pompdesk.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠======================BitcoinOS is bringing Bitcoin into a new era. For the first time, Bitcoiners can access real DeFi across the entire crypto ecosystem, powered by revolutionary zero-knowledge technology. BitcoinOS is powered by $BOS token, which reunites all of crypto around the chain where it allbegan. Enter the $BOS token presale and be early to Bitcoin again.======================Polkadot is a scalable, secure, and decentralized blockchain technology aimed at creating Web3. Created by Gavin Wood, co-founder of Ethereum, Polkadot empowers users to build decentralized applications with ease. Backed by industry leaders, making it a preferred choice for big names, Polkadot stands out as a leading choice for investors seeking a reliable, future-proof solution in the growing world of Web3 technology. Learn more at https://polkadot.com/.======================TimeStamps:0:00 - Intro1:14 - How financial advisors should think about bitcoin 6:24 - The best ways to get exposure to bitcoin 9:35 - The death of 60/40 and bitcoin should be 40%?18:25 - Should gold be in your portfolio? 22:22 - How to think about technology impact on financial advisors 24:18 - How financial advisors should explain currency debasement 26:45 - What do financial advisors think about other coins? 32:15 - How to think about staking 33:57 - What are the last obstacles financial advisors need to overcome? 41:33 - What is Ric’s focus for the next year? 
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