The Pomp Podcast

Bill Barhydt is the founder and CEO of Abra. In this conversation, we break down why bitcoin is climbing despite rising rates and macro headwinds, where its next wave of demand will come from, and how the debt spiral drives inflation. We also discuss AI agents, the future of wealth management, tokenized yield, and how Abra is building a neo-banking stack for crypto.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Why bitcoin is rising despite macro headwinds
4:08 - Shrinking volatility & bitcoin cycle returns
9:15 - Is there a way out of the debt spiral?
15:10 - AI is turning everyone into a software engineer
20:17 - Why RIAs are falling behind
27:48 - What Abra is building with tokenized yield & lending
33:49 - Tokenization & the next generation of investors
36:30 - AI financial advisors & regulation
38:38 - The end of apps & the agentic future

Simon Dixon is an early Bitcoin investor and the co-founder and CEO of BnkToTheFuture, which backed companies like Coinbase, Kraken, and BitPay. In this conversation, we break down who really controls global capital, how Wall Street is co-opting bitcoin, and what the Coldcard hack means for self custody. We also discuss AI, surveillance, data centers, the K-shaped economy, and why sovereignty will be the most important skill of the next two decades.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at https://www.lava.xyz/POMP
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0:00 - Intro
1:09 - Simon's bitcoin journey since 2011
6:50 - Geopolitics, world order & where we disagree
10:40 - Who really runs America?
12:54 - Does bitcoin starve the system of capital?
15:49 - The Coldcard hack & the future of self custody
21:43 - The token economy & life 20 years from now
29:08 - Surveillance, privacy & sovereignty
33:36 - Data centers, the AI race & the K-shaped economy
40:17 - BlackRock, ETF flows & what would change his mind
43:39 - What the bitcoin price is telling us

Hunter Biden is an attorney, artist, writer, and the son of former President Joe Biden. In this conversation, we break down why he believes in bitcoin, the problem with money printing, and his biggest critiques of both the Biden and Trump administrations. We also discuss his recovery from addiction, AI, the launch of his Laptop token, and whether he would ever run for President.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/pomp
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0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Does Hunter Biden own bitcoin?
5:46 - Biggest critiques of the Biden & Trump administrations
8:32 - Biggest positives of each administration
10:53 - Anything nice to say about Trump?
14:29 - Staying silent through the attacks & addiction recovery
19:58 - Would Hunter Biden run for president?
23:59 - Leaving the Democratic Party & voting independent
25:50 - AI: doomer or accelerationist?
36:30 - What is the Laptop token?
42:28 - Owning "Hunter Biden's laptop"
44:31 - Rapid fire questions

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with 30+ years of experience and the author of the VisserLabs Substack. In this conversation, we break down why the macro doomers are wrong about rates, whether OpenAI and Anthropic are slowing down, and why the explosion of personal AI agents needs crypto rails. We also discuss Wall Street's growing crypto FOMO, the bitcoin setup heading into Q4, and what Jordi calls the "micron moment."
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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Need liquidity without selling your crypto? Take out a Figure Crypto-Backed Loan, allowing you to borrow against your BTC, ETH, or SOL with 12-month terms, 8.91% interest rates, and no prepayment penalties. Or check out Democratized Prime (https://figuremarkets.co/pomp) and earn ~8.5% APY on real world assets. Unlock your crypto’s potential today at Figure! https://figuremarkets.co/pomp Figure Lending LLC dba Figure (NMLS 1717824). Loans subject to approval. Crypto collateral may be liquidated. Terms apply - see full disclosures at https://figure.com/disclosures/
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GalaxyOne is a financial technology platform built for people who want their cash working harder. Open an account with promo code POMP and deposit $10,000 to earn a $1,000 bonus. See site for promotion details → https://www.galaxy.app/pomp1000 Galaxy Premium Yield is an investment note issued by Galaxy Digital LP and guaranteed by Galaxy Digital Holdings LP. It is not a bank deposit, is unsecured, and is not FDIC or SIPC insured. U.S. accredited investors only. Cash deposits held at Cross River Bank, Member FDIC. Securities products are not FDIC insured, not bank guaranteed, and may lose value. GalaxyOne Crypto is not FDIC or SIPC insured. Terms apply.
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Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at https://www.lava.xyz/POMP
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0:00 - Intro
1:02 - Why the macro doomers are wrong on rates
3:23 - Homebuilders, autos & the new economy
5:54 - Tech dominance & why AI ignores rates
11:10 - Are OpenAI & Anthropic slowing down?
22:15 - The personal AI agent explosion
26:08 - Why AI agents need crypto
29:22 - Wall Street FOMO for crypto
32:44 - Bitcoin bull trend & this week's macro data
35:52 - Why crypto wins the fourth quarter
38:14 - AI to bitcoin rotation & the VisserLabs index
45:52 - The micron moment for crypto

Dan Ives is a Partner and Senior Managing Director at Yorkville Ives. In this conversation, we break down where value is building in the AI trade, Dario's warnings about AI, regulatory capture, and whether OpenAI and Anthropic are in more trouble than people realize. We also discuss the White House AI meeting, sovereign AI, the US vs China race, and his new Ives Ultra Fund.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates investment strategies across Stocks, Commodities, ETFs and Crypto. Whether you’re rotating into AI & Gold, allocating to the S&P 500, or accumulating Bitcoin, Arch Public executes your plan 24/7 without ever taking custody of your assets or funds. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com, and start your FREE automated trading strategy!
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Lava is a global platform for bitcoin financial services. Spend with Lava Card and earn up to 5% back in bitcoin with every purchase— all with no annual fee, no FX fees, and zero spread. Plus you can borrow against your bitcoin at the lowest rates, earn yield on cash, and move fiat or stablecoins globally. Get started at ⁠https://www.lava.xyz/POMP⁠
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0:00 - Intro
1:12 - Where's the value in the AI trade?
2:32 - Dario's AI warning & regulatory capture
5:15 - Are OpenAI & Anthropic in trouble?
11:04 - Trump's White House AI meeting
13:51 - Open source vs closed source AI
15:32 - Token price war & the Anthropic IPO
22:33 - How to invest in the AI trade
25:04 - Personal AI agents & consumer AI
26:31 - Why tech is ignoring macro headwinds
30:36 - The Ives Ultra AI Fund
33:21 - Data, sovereign AI & the future of work