This week on the pod we chat with Marie Masse (pronounced ‘moss’) about special interests and creativity. Marie is part of our little ND Woman Pod team, and she has been the creative genius behind pretty much everything except the actual episodes themselves, so if you follow us on socials, or you’ve checked out our website, or you’ve downloaded one of our gorgeous PDF episode articles, you’ve definitely seen her work!  Marie is a late-identified 2e AuDHDer with two neurodivergent kids, navigating life with OCD and chronic health conditions —mostly from her creative sanctuary: a little cabin in the Blue Ridge Mountains in the USA. During a period of trauma and burnout, Marie lost access to her most sacred interest—her creative process—but has since reclaimed it, proving that healing and recovery are possible. Since 2013, she has crafted over 300 creations—articles, digital tools, guides, books, podcast episodes, and transformative programs centred around story work. Her creations invite others to stay awake to the tiny stories that shape their lives and use them as opportunities to heal, thrive, and live fully expressed.  On this episode we cover:  How Marie thinks about neurodivergence and her path to discovering her own neurodivergence. How ‘special interests’ manifest for Marie. The difference between Autistic, ADHD, and AuDHD special interests. The centrality of special interests as an ‘organising force’ for autistic folk. Marie’s experience of losing access to her creative process (her special interest). The difference between living a ‘balanced’ life for neurotypicals, versus what ‘balance’ can look like for neurodivergent people. Marie’s experience of her special interests in childhood. How the internet has made interests and interest-based connections more accessible for neurodivergent folk. Neurotypical special interests. Marie explains ‘story work’.   You can find Marie’s work through her website – www.dangerouslygoodstories.com – on Instagram @dangerouslygoodstories and @myneurodivergentjoy, or through her Substack (Live Like You Mean It).  Want polished copies of our episodes in beautiful and readable pdf article format? Grab them here.  Enjoyed the episode and want to support us further? Join our Patreon community! Patreon subscribers receive basic episode transcripts from Season 4 onwards, access to a monthly live zoom hang out, 50% off our episode articles, plus bonus monthly content (depending on subscription tier). Check out our Patreon page to support us, as we aim to make quality mental health care information accessible to everyone: www.patreon.com/ndwomanpod.  Contact us at
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