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    It was Never Just Me: Neurodivergence in a Neurotypical World with Jess Farrell

    25/05/2026 | 50 mins.
    "There can be this oversimplification - ‘just unmask, just be yourself' - but that's terrifying for people. Masking is a safety strategy. You can't just stop." — Jess Farrell



    In this month’s episode, senior speech pathologist Jess Farrell returns to explore the profound emotional landscape of late-in-life neurodivergent diagnosis. Shifting away from the pathologising lens of the traditional medical model, Jess, Kizzy, and Andrew share their own lived experiences with ADHD and trauma. Together, they unpack the profound relief that comes with "the power of knowing," transforming a lifelong narrative of personal failure into a systemic understanding of what it means to survive in a world built for neurotypical brains.

    The conversation centres on a vital clinical shift for Speech Pathologists: moving past the well-intentioned but dangerous oversimplification of the "just unmask" narrative. Jess reframes masking not as a deficit to be eradicated or a compliance goal to be praised, but as a protective safety strategy. By viewing clinical cases through the lens of the Double Empathy Problem and monotropism, this episode challenges SLPs to move away from fixing the individual and focus instead on modifying the environment and building true client autonomy.

    About Jess
    Jess Farrell is a senior speech pathologist within a public multidisciplinary mental health team in Geelong, Victoria, specialising in neuro-affirming autism assessments for youth and adults. With over a decade of clinical experience spanning both public and private sectors, she is a passionate advocate for creating neuro-inclusive, accessible mental health spaces. As a late-diagnosed ADHDer and a mother of twins, Jess blends professional expertise with rich lived experience to support clients who have long felt unseen or unheard.

    In This Episode, We Unpack:
    The emotional reality of late diagnosis
    Why "Just Unmask" is a dangerous oversimplification
    Clinical curiosity vs. compliance-based goals
    Applying the double empathy problem in session
    Reimagine the SLP toolkit

    Resources Mentioned:
    Television Series: Please Like Me by Josh Thomas (recommended as a clinical tool for analysing neuro-type communication differences and perspective-taking).
    Core Concepts: The Double Empathy Problem and Monotropism.



    To Connect with Jess:
    Instagram: @neuro.inclusivecommunication
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jess-farrell-4a4b0454/ 



    The Mindful Speechies Podcast:
    Follow us on Instagram at @mindfulspeechies to connect and learn more about
    Remember to subscribe for updates on your favourite podcast platform

    Connect with Your Hosts:
    Kizzy Searle
    Website: www.attunedspeech.com.au
    Email: [email protected]
    Instagram: @attunedspeech 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kizzysearle/ 

    Andrew Watt
    Website: www.unitytherapy.com
    Email: [email protected]
    X: https://x.com/SLPAndrew 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/acwatt/
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    Understanding Co-Consciousness and Plurality with Steph Robertson

    24/03/2026 | 1h 19 mins.
    "Our brain created this incredible adaptation to allow us to get through... I don’t think we would be where we are today if it weren’t for the incredible skill our mind had in using dissociation as a coping mechanism. I’m really grateful for what our brain has done."



    In this profound episode, Kizzy and Andrew sit down with Steph Robertson, a neurodivergent Occupational Therapist, to explore the lived experience of navigating the world as a plural system (having multiple parts or alters within one mind/body). Steph provides insight into DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder), moving the conversation away from sensationalised media tropes toward a reality grounded in her experience of survival, safety, and therapeutic progress.

    The discussion bridges the gap between traditional pathology and neurodiversity affirming care, highlighting how amnesia and identity shifts exist on a spectrum rather than as rigid checkboxes. For SLPs and health professionals, this episode is a call to move toward relational, curious practice, emphasising that the most powerful tool in a clinician’s kit is the willingness to believe a client's internal reality without judgment.

    About Our Guest
    Steph Robertson is an autistic ADHD, CPTSD individual and plural system who works as a neurodivergent Occupational Therapist and advocate. With over a decade of experience, she focuses on challenging neuronormativity and supporting families through a trauma-responsive, transdisciplinary lens.

    Inside This Episode
    Redefining amnesia (it’s not always a black hole).
    The "Passenger Seat" analogy for co-consciousness.
    Why "gentle curiosity" is one of your best clinical tools.
    And so much more :)

    Resources Mentioned
    Film: Petals of a Rose
    Series: The Crowded Room
    Tools: Dialectical Behavioral Therapy for DID — The Workbook by Johanna Knyn
    Concepts: Internal Family Systems (IFS), Brainspotting, and Deep Brain Reorienting (DBR).
    Training: 
    April 2026 Webinar with Steph Robertson and Christina Keeble on Interoception as a Protective Factor: https://www.trybooking.com/events/landing/1533624 
    Wilde Consulting: https://wildeconsulting.com.au/services/training-workshops/
    Guided Healing Psychology: https://www.guidedhealingpsychology.com.au/theteam

    Connect with Steph Robertson:
    Instagram: @sgroccupationaltherapy
    Email: [email protected] 
    Website: https://www.sgroccupationaltherapy.com/



    Kizzy's Webinar on Trauma-Informed Practice:
    Learn more: https://webinar.attunedspeech.com.au/registration_tip_210526


    The Mindful Speechies Podcast:Instagram: @mindfulspeechies

    Connect with Your Hosts:
    Kizzy Searle
    Website: ⁠www.attunedspeech.com.au⁠
    Email: ⁠[email protected]
    Instagram: @attunedspeech 
    LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kizzysearle/⁠ 
    Andrew Watt
    Website: www.unitytherapy.com
    Email: [email protected]
    X: https://x.com/SLPAndrew 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/acwatt/ 



    Enjoy the episode!
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    Connection Over Compliance: A Trauma-Informed Shift for SLPs and OTs with Kate Broderick

    09/02/2026 | 58 mins.
    "Kids are always trying their best, and behaviour is always telling us something about how a child's nervous system is feeling."

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    In this episode, dual-qualified therapist Kate Broderick joins Andrew and Kizzy to discuss her twenty-year evolution from a traditional, "expert-led" clinician to a neuro-affirming and trauma-informed leader. Kate reflects on how her own neurodivergence and journey as a parent to four unique children reshaped her understanding of therapy, moving her away from rigid professional boundaries toward a model centred on genuine human connection and "therapeutic use of self".

    The conversation dives deep into the practicalities of trauma-informed practice, including how to set goals that prioritise quality of life and nervous system safety over standardised "impairment" scores. Kate shares insights from her upcoming 2026 picture books, emphasising that when we view challenging moments through a relational lens - viewing behaviour as communication rather than opposition - we foster faster solutions and more resilient therapeutic alliances.

    Kate Broderick is a dual-qualified Speech Pathologist and Occupational Therapist with over 20 years of experience, serving as the neurodivergent CEO of Spot Therapy Hub. She is the creator of the NeuroWay platform for professional and parent education and is a passionate advocate for relationship-based approaches in both clinical and home settings. Kate is also the author of two upcoming 2026 picture books designed to teach trauma-informed principles to children and caregivers.

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    Connect with Kate:
    Instagram: Follow @katebroderick.official for updates on her upcoming picture books (2026).
    Podcast: Listen to the Spot Life Podcast for more insights into the intersection of OT and SP.
    NeuroWay: Access webinars and courses for parents and professionals.
    Spot Therapy Hub: For therapy services or neuro-affirming support work, visit www.spottherapyhub.com.au or follow @spottherapyhub.

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    Resources Mentioned:
    Authors and Clinicians: Dr. Ross Greene; Gordon Neufeld; Deborah McNamara; Mona Delahooke; Maggie Dent
    Outcome Measures: AusTOMs

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    The Mindful Speechies Podcast:
    Follow us on Instagram at @mindfulspeechies to connect and learn more about
    Remember to subscribe for updates on your favourite podcast platform

    Connect with Your Hosts:

    Kizzy Searle
    Website: www.attunedspeech.com.au
    Email: [email protected]
    Instagram: @attunedspeech 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kizzysearle/ 

    Andrew Watt
    Website: www.unitytherapy.com
    Email: [email protected]
    X: https://x.com/SLPAndrew 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/acwatt/
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    Using Narrative to Create Safety and Connection with Caitlyn Weber

    13/10/2025 | 38 mins.
    "My practice is completely different now. I spend a long-time building rapport and asking, 'What's that unmet need?'. How do I first meet that need before we even think about goals."

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    In today’s episode, we explore the intersection of mental health and speech therapy with Caitlyn Weber, a passionate speech pathologist who brings a trauma-informed and neuro-affirming lens to her work in both private practice and with the for-purpose organisation, ACT for Kids.

    Caitlyn is a speech pathologist dedicated to helping children and young people find their voice and use it with confidence. She is passionate about supporting kids to express their thoughts, feelings, needs, and ideas, bringing compassion, creativity, and connection to her work. Grounded in a trauma-informed and neuro-affirming foundation, she ensures each child feels respected, understood, and safe to be their authentic self. Alongside her clinical practice, Caitlyn is a member of Speech Pathology Australia's trauma and mental health advisory group and provides clinical supervision for early career speech pathologists.

    Caitlyn shares her journey from a traditional, goal-oriented clinician to a practitioner who prioritises relational safety, co-regulation, and meeting the child’s unmet needs above all else. We dive into the neurobiology of trauma, discussing how adverse experiences impact a child's sensory systems, brain development, and their ability to feel safe in the world.

    This episode is packed with invaluable insights and practical strategies, from using narrative as a core therapeutic tool to empowering children to set their own goals. Caitlyn introduces powerful analogies like the "lizard brain" and the "Coke bottle" to help clinicians, families, and children understand and manage overwhelming sensory and emotional experiences.

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    Connect with Caitlyn:
    Website: speakeasytherapyservices.com
    Email: [email protected]

    Caitlyn runs her private practice, Speakeasy Therapy Services, and works as a speech pathologist in the Integrated Therapy Service team for the for-purpose organisation, ACT for Kids, in Adelaide.

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    Resources Mentioned:
    Black Sheep Press resources by Becky Shanks
    Story Champs
    Jenny Baker (WA) and the "story mountain" concept
    Yellow Ladybugs Conference
    Dan Hughes' PACE model
    Caitlyn's clinical bite, "Keeping your practice trauma informed," is available on the Speech Pathology Australia Learning Hub

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    The Mindful Speechies Podcast:
    Follow us on Instagram at @mindfulspeechies to connect and learn more about
    Remember to subscribe for updates on your favourite podcast platform

    Connect with Your Hosts:
    Andrew Watt
    Website: www.unitytherapy.com
    Email: [email protected]
    X: https://x.com/SLPAndrew 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/acwatt/ 

    Kizzy Searle
    Website: www.attunedspeech.com.au
    Email: [email protected]
    Instagram: @attunedspeech 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kizzysearle/
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    A Lived Experience Education on FND with Erica Tilley

    26/09/2025 | 57 mins.
    “This is such an exciting time to talk about FND… researchers are finally acknowledging they’ve been too slow to listen to people with lived experience and use that to inform practice and future research.”
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    Note: this episode contains sensitive information including experiences of restrictive practices. If this episode brings up feelings of distress, please reach out to your support network or call Lifeline on 13 11 14. If you or someone else is at immediate risk of harm, please dial 000. (These numbers apply within Australia; if you’re listening elsewhere, please contact your local crisis service.)

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    In today’s episode, we explore the intersection of mental health and speech therapy with Erica Tilley, a neurodivergent (Autism, FND, ABI) Quality Auditor with prior clinical experience as a Speech Pathologist.

    Erica has worked in clinical practice, research, and compliance - contributing to allied health guidelines, publishing on atypical parkinsonism and delirium, and presenting at conferences, including the 2015 Speech Pathology Australia conference. After her own health challenges, including a brain tumour and developing Functional Neurological Disorder (FND), she brings a valuable perspective that combines professional expertise with lived experience.

    This episode is an opportunity to hear directly from someone living with FND - an area where lived experience has too often been ignored or dismissed due to misinformed guidelines and misconceptions. Erica’s insight invites us to consider how listening more closely to lived experience of FND can broaden understanding, reduce stigma, and shift how care is thought about and delivered.

    In this conversation, Erica shares:
    What FND is and how it presents
    Common misconceptions and challenges in current guidelines
    The role of lived experience in shaping therapy and research
    Stigma, invalidation, and systemic barriers
    Personal experiences of restrictive practices (content note: restrictive practices are discussed)

    This is not just a story about one person - it’s an invitation to reflect on how lived experience can guide more compassionate and effective care for people with FND.

    Erica will be joining us again for a part 2 where she shares lived experience informed recommendations and principles of care for FND. This episode will be recorded on 5th November 2025. She welcomes questions beforehand, you can submit these to:
    [email protected]
    Or DM us via our instagram @mindfulspeechies  

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    Connect with Erica Tilley:

    Email: [email protected]

    Erica is available for paid Zoom/online meetings and presentations. Erica has created FND resources on lived experience informed and affirming support for FND, which will be shared as part of the second episode with her.

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    Resources & Links Mentioned:
    Paper review, inc. Professor Mark Edwards: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/brb3.70168  
    Janet Baker: https://neurosymptoms.org/en/symptoms/fnd-symptoms/functional-speech-swallowing-symptoms/
    Sonny J Wise:
    Neurodiversity paradigm: https://lnkd.in/gYSUbs54
    Services: https://www.livedexperienceeducator.com/services
    Neurodiversity affirming checklist
    Dr Katherine Gill: 
    Website: https://fndaus.org.au/about/ 
    Commissioned Report on FND

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    Separate to this episode, there’s currently an open petition calling for FND to be formally recognised by the NDIS. The petition closes on 3 October 2025: https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN7833 

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    The Mindful Speechies Podcast:Instagram: @mindfulspeechies

    Andrew Watt
    Website: www.unitytherapy.com
    Email: [email protected]
    X: https://x.com/SLPAndrew 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/acwatt/ 

    Kizzy Searle
    Website: www.attunedspeech.com.au
    Email: [email protected]
    Instagram: @attunedspeech 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kizzysearle/ 

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    Thank you for listening :)
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About Mindful Speechies
The Mindful Speechies Podcast with Kizzy Searle and Andrew Watt explores the intersection of speech pathology and mental health. Each episode features honest conversations with fellow speech therapists about their experiences, challenges, insights, and the importance of mental health and wellbeing in clinical practice and personal life. This podcast aims to share practical insights, discuss real clinical situations, and build a community that supports both SLPs and their clients. Follow The Mindful Speechies on Instagram @mindfulspeechies for updates and join the conversation.
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