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Making Cents

Frances Cook
Making Cents
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  • Making Cents

    The 4 money personalities that shape how you save, spend, and fight about money

    11/02/2026 | 21 mins.
    Money fights aren’t really about money. They’re about expectations, and how differently we respond to them.

    In this episode of Making Cents, I’m breaking down the four money personalities that shape how you save, spend, budget, and argue about money. Get ready to finally understand why financial advice works brilliantly for some people and completely falls apart for others.

    Based on Gretchen Rubin’s Four Tendencies framework, these personalities explain why:

    You can know what to do with your money… and still not do it

    Your partner’s approach makes perfect sense to them, but drives you mad

    Discipline isn’t the issue, but mismatched systems are.

    You’ll learn how the Upholder, Questioner, Obliger, and Rebel money personalities actually behave with money, where each one thrives, where it goes wrong, and what strategies genuinely work for each type.

    We also dig into how different money personalities clash (and connect) in relationships. Why money is such a common source of tension, and how to design shared systems that don’t leave one person feeling controlled, rushed, unsupported, or sabotaged.

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    This podcast was filmed & produced by Fanaticals

    Video editing & content production by Lana Byrne

    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

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    Chapters

    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:03:11 The upholder: the goody two shoes who follow all the rules
    00:05:58 The questioner: research everything, customize everything
    00:10:54 The obliger: brilliant for others, terrible at prioritizing themselves
    00:13:51 The rebel: identity over obligations
    00:17:33 Why most money advice is written for upholders
    00:18:27 Money personalities in relationships: why couples fight about expectations
    00:20:49 Wrapping up: stop fighting yourself and design systems that fit
    00:21:08 Outro
  • Making Cents

    What's going on with markets? Shares, gold, crypto, and the wild ride ahead with RNZ's Jim Mora

    09/02/2026 | 19 mins.
    From the real risks behind AI hype and whether we're heading for a crash, to the surprising weakness hiding inside Big Tech's profits, and why digital advertising might be the canary in the coal mine that nobody's watching… it’s time to make sense of the chaos.

    Fast Money with Jim Mora on RNZ’s Sunday Mornings, it’s time for the money update you need.

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    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

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  • Making Cents

    NZ Mortgage Myths That Cost You Years On Your Mortgage: With Aaron Cattell (The Mortgage Man)

    08/02/2026 | 45 mins.
    There is a lot of mortgage advice out there that is confidently wrong.

    And the cost of following it isn’t just money, it’s time. Sometimes years of your life spent under pressure you didn’t actually need.

    In this episode of Making Cents, we’re cutting through the biggest mortgage myths that trip people up both before they buy a home and long after they’ve signed the papers.

    From “cleaning up” bank statements and chasing the lowest interest rate, to misunderstood rules around deposits, credit scores, extra repayments, and offsets, this is the stuff that sounds smart on paper, but can cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars over time.

    Mortgage Man Aaron Cattell is a mortgage adviser on the front lines, working with real borrowers, real numbers, and real lending rules, and he’s ready to let you peek behind the curtain.

    We break down:

    What banks actually care about when approving a mortgage (and what they don’t)

    Common mortgage-ready myths that no longer apply in New Zealand

    Why loan structure matters more than chasing the cheapest interest rate

    The simplest ways to cut years off your mortgage, without needing a windfall

    When extra repayments, lump sums, offsets, or revolving credit actually make sense

    The tactics that sound clever, but Aaron would ban tomorrow

    If you’re buying your first home, refixing soon, or just want more control over the biggest debt most people will ever take on, this episode will help you avoid mistakes that quietly steal time from your future.

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    This podcast was filmed & produced by Fanaticals

    Video editing & content production by Lana Byrne

    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

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    Chapters

    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:02:37 Meet Aaron Kital: the mortgage man on the front lines
    00:04:00 Busting the deposit myth: you don't need 20 percent
    00:05:30 The clean bank statements myth and what banks actually care about
    00:09:25 Auctions, valuations, and the first-time buyer obstacle course
    00:12:40 Is buying your own home actually a good investment?
    00:15:00 Myths from overseas: credit scores and payment frequency
    00:19:03 Should you pay off your mortgage early or invest elsewhere?
    00:23:48 Three ways to smash your mortgage faster
    00:26:06 Offset accounts and revolving credits: when they work and when they don't
    00:34:42 Fixed versus floating: why structure beats interest rates every time
    00:41:24 When mortgages keep you awake at night: hardship options
    00:43:43 The easy win: one simple change that saves years
    00:44:14 Outro
  • Making Cents

    How to fix your finances in February before you fall off the wagon

    05/02/2026 | 8 mins.
    If you're feeling the February slump and wondering how to get back on track without starting from scratch, this one's for you!

    A replay of Frances Cook's column for 1 News, read here with permission, on 7 science-backed ways to get your money back under control.

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  • Making Cents

    7 mental traps to avoid when you’re investing

    04/02/2026 | 13 mins.
    This episode was originally part of the Market Memo newsletter, where you learn about sharemarket investing every week. You can subscribe to that, here https://marketmemoweekly.substack.com/

    It’s never been easier to start investing. And that’s both brilliant, and part of the problem.

    Between constant headlines, market swings, hot takes on social media, and apps that let you trade with a swipe, investing has turned into a psychological minefield.

    Now, for most people, the biggest risk to their money isn’t the market. It’s their own brain.

    In this episode of Making Cents, it’s the seven common mental traps that trip investors up.

    We’ll cover:

    Why losses hurt so much more than gains (and what that makes people do)

    How herd behaviour and FOMO sneak into otherwise sensible decisions

    Why sticking to what feels familiar can cost you real growth

    The mental shortcuts that make short-term noise feel more important than long-term plans

    And the simple systems that help emotions stop driving the car

    This episode isn’t about suppressing your feelings or becoming some emotionless investing robot.

    It’s about understanding how your brain works, and putting smart guardrails in place so it doesn’t sabotage your future.

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    This podcast was filmed & produced by Fanaticals

    Video editing & content production by Lana Byrne

    Audio engineering by Tash Chittock

    #MakingCents #FrancesCook #InvestingPsychology #BehaviouralFinance #MoneyPsychology #InvestorMindset #MentalTraps #Investing

    Chapters

    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:02:18 Loss aversion: the pain hits harder than the pleasure
    00:03:31 Overconfidence bias: the 'I can time the market' illusion
    00:05:21 Herd behavior and FOMO: when everyone's buying, beware
    00:07:13 Home bias: comfort can cost you
    00:08:31 Confirmation bias: the echo chamber effect
    00:09:39 Recency bias: thinking yesterday predicts tomorrow
    00:10:48 Present bias: the 'now' trap
    00:12:19 Wrapping up: stop emotions from driving the car
    00:13:00 Outro

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About Making Cents

The podcast for people who want financial freedom, without giving up their coffee. That means it's time to make the money world make cents. Join Frances Cook, best-selling author and award-winning journalist, to talk about the proven ways to invest your way to financial independence, buy your first home, or just get your spending under control. Every Monday we have the week's feature interview, with someone who's done something interesting with their money. From paying off a mountain of debt, or investing for financial independence, or starting a new business, these are the ordinary people making the extraordinary possible. On Thursday we have Ask the Experts, where industry insiders answer your questions on the money world. From earning more in your career, to investing, or sticking to a budget, they'll help make money simple. Every now and then you'll get a bonus episode too, but the fun of those is that you never know when they're coming!
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