19 episodes
Frances Brennan on growing up undiagnosed neurodivergent and being the "naughty" kid to overachieving and speech pathology
14/10/2026 | 1h 7 mins.Growing Up Neurodivergent, Being the “Naughty Kid” and Connection Before Correction
Frances Brennan is a speech pathologist and Director of The Speech Tree who grew up as an undiagnosed autistic and ADHD child — experiences that now shape the way she works with children, families and schools.
Frances shares what it was like to be a bright, capable student who struggled with organisation, executive functioning and school expectations, only to have those difficulties interpreted as behavioural problems. She talks about being labelled the “naughty kid”, later learning to mask and overachieve, and the struggles that remained hidden underneath.
Now working closely with neurodivergent children and schools, Frances advocates for “connection before correction” — looking beyond behaviour to understand what might actually be happening for a child.
Growing up with undiagnosed autism and ADHD
Being labelled the “naughty kid”
Masking, anxiety and appearing to cope
Connection before correction
What meaningful school accommodations look like
Building better relationships between parents and teachers
What to look for when choosing a school for a neurodivergent child
Supporting children through school transitions
Frances Brennan is a speech pathologist and Director of The Speech Tree in Montrose. Alongside her professional experience, Frances brings the perspective of an autistic and ADHD adult who received her diagnosis later in life.
Through her work with children, families and schools, Frances supports neurodivergent young people to engage more successfully with learning, while helping educators better understand and accommodate diverse learners.
Frances and the Speech Tree is a sponsor of Melbourne Schools.Character development, challenge and community service at Woodleigh School with Char Palmer
15/09/2026 | 49 mins.Char Palmer, winner of the Woodleigh Prize at Woodleigh School in 2025 shares their love of their journey through school. They talk about how Woodleigh helps students build character and find interests outside of academics. In this fun chat we talk about the physical and mental challenge of "Hada", the variety of Activities offered and the emphasis on giving back.Psychological assessments - What's involved, when to get them and what to do with them
12/08/2026 | 52 mins.Hayley Jennings ( Chin ) is a psychologist and founder of Step By Step Psychology and one of the sponsors of Melbourne Schools.
In this interview, she guides us through different kinds of psychological assessments available for children and adolescents. We speak about when is the best time to do them, how they are done, what is the benefit and what can be done with the reports.
If you've ever considered a learning difficulties assessment of neurodiversity assessment for your child, this interview may help.- Madeleine, the high-achieving 2025 ex–Vice Captain at MLC, shares her school journey after joining midway through secondary school. We discuss her decision to pursue the IB over the VCE, how she balanced a demanding schedule of extracurriculars alongside her studies and leadership role, and her experience at Marshmead in Year 9. She also reflects on her time at MLC and outlines her plans for the future beyond school.
- There's a lot of mystery and anxiety around waitlisting and admissions into Melbourne private schools. In this podcast, I chat to Paul Walsh who was Director of Admissions and Community Engagement in a co-ed private school for 15 years. We talk about the waitlisting process, if you should be honest in your application as well as the role that NAPLAN might play in school admissions.
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I'm Crystal, a regular Melbourne mum trying to choose a secondary school in Melbourne for my daughter. I’m a firm believer that there is more to choosing the best school for your child than rankings and numbers on a table. In this podcast, I speak with parents, students, education experts and even principals to get a better understanding of schools and the education system in Melbourne.
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