In this episode of Mindful AI, we sit down with Kirk Mitchell, a Google geospatial leader and long-time champion of diversity, equity, and inclusion, to explore what happens when AI is grounded in the physical world.Kirk traces his journey from hand-drawn cartography at RMIT to today’s planet-scale mapping systems, and explains why geospatial context is becoming a core ingredient for more reliable AI. We unpack “grounding” (connecting generative models to trusted, up-to-date maps data), and why this matters for everything from everyday navigation to reducing hallucinations in location-based queries.The conversation moves from maps as convenience to maps as human rights infrastructure, including how tools like Plus Codes can function as an address for communities that do not have formal street addressing. We also discuss what “local” really means in the Global South: two-wheel mobility, landmark-based directions, and safety-first design for riders.From there, Kirk shares some of the most compelling “AI for good” work happening right now:Project Green Light, using AI-driven recommendations to improve traffic signal timing and reduce emissions (including work in Boston).Contrail avoidance, where AI-informed routing can significantly reduce warming impacts from aviation contrails.Earth Engine, which makes large-scale Earth observation and analysis accessible for research and many noncommercial uses.We also go into the more nuanced terrain: autonomous vehicles and safety (and the second-order impacts on professional drivers), bias and perspective-taking, and Kirk’s caution that outsourcing creativity and spatial reasoning may come with hidden cognitive costs.If you’re interested in AI that is not just powerful, but situated, accountable, and human-centered, this episode offers both practical frameworks and philosophical pressure-tests.🔔 Subscribe to Mindful AI for more in-depth conversations on ethical AI and human flourishing.💬 Do you think AI will expand human creativity, or slowly replace the struggle that makes creativity meaningful? Tell us in the comments.🎙 Links from the episode:🔗 Grounding with Google Maps (Gemini / Maps grounding):🔗 Project Green Light (traffic signal optimization)🔗 Project Contrails (contrail avoidance research)🔗 Plus Codes (addresses without street addresses)🔗 Google Earth Engine
🔗 Waymo safety benchmarks (7M+ rider-only miles)
🔗 Book: The Second Machine Age (Brynjolfsson & McAfee) 🔗 Book: Could Should Might Don’t (Nick Foster):
Chapters:
00:00 Welcome, Tech Diversity Awards, and Kirk’s DEI roots
03:00 From cartography to Google: mapping at planet scale
05:34 Why AI is essential for high-definition, always-updated maps
06:17 Grounding AI in the physical world (and reducing hallucinations)
08:45 Addresses as a human right: Plus Codes and inclusion
10:05 Local navigation realities: two-wheelers, landmarks, and safety
13:11 Democratizing geospatial AI: prompts, “vibe coding,” and new builders
15:15 Earth Engine: geospatial AI for climate and sustainability
18:03 Maker tools vs autonomy: Waymo and the safety promise
23:23 Project Green Light: smarter traffic signals, lower emissions
25:12 Aviation contrails: AI-informed routing for climate impact
26:57 Mapping kelp forests: climate resilience in Australia
33:00 Bias, tribalism, and AI as a thinking partner
48:11 Practical advice: mindful AI use, diverse voices, and “shipwrecks”👉 Enjoyed this episode? Like, comment, and subscribe to support mindful, meaningful conversations on AI and ethics.