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Laura & Lyn
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    Coercive Control vs a Bad Relationship: How to Tell the Difference

    30/06/2026 | 1h
    Listen to this episode if…
    You keep asking yourself "is it me, or are they controlling?"

    The examples online always sound more extreme than what you're living

    You're walking on eggshells but second-guessing whether you're allowed to feel that way

    You've been told to "just set boundaries" but it only seems to make things worse

    You want to understand coercive control from both a psychological and a family-law angle

    Legal Disclaimer & Family Violence Warning
    This is general education – not legal advice or a psychological diagnosis. It discusses coercive control and abuse. If you're in danger, call 000. Support: 1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 | Lifeline 13 11 14.
    Episode Summary
    "Is it me, or are they controlling?" That question ran under almost every message you sent in – so we turned it into a six-part series, and this is Part 1. Laura and Lyn are joined by clinical psychologist Krasi Kirova to answer the one nearly everyone asked: is this really coercive control?
    Krasi shares her three Ds (disrespect, disempowerment, distortion), explains why coercive control is a pattern and a function rather than a list of behaviours, and how good qualities like compromise and empathy get weaponised. Lyn explains how family law treats coercive control differently from the criminal courts.
    00:00 – Is It Me, or Are They Controlling?
    03:30 – What Best Illustrates Coercive Control? 
    04:30 – The Restaurant Metaphor: Pattern, Not a Checklist
    06:00 – The 3 Ds: Disrespect, Disempowerment, Distortion
    07:30 – Psychology vs Family Law: Section 4AB
    09:00 – Family Court vs Criminal Court: Different Tests
    10:00 – When You Lose Sight of What's Reasonable 
    12:00 – How Compromise & Empathy Get Weaponised
    13:00 – When Your Ex Wasn't As "Extreme" as the Examples 
    16:00 – Is Anger & Yelling Coercive Control? 
    18:00 – Can It Exist Without Financial Control?
    19:00 – Repeated Pressure & Monopolised Decisions (
    22:00 – Stonewalling, Delay & Deflection 
    25:30 – The PA Dynamic & Exploitation 
    28:00 – Needy or Controlling? How to Tell the Difference
    30:00 – Blame-Shifting, DARVO & Perspecticide
    33:00 – Infidelity, Guilt & Trying to Leave 
    39:00 – Silent Treatment as Punishment 
    43:00 – Why He Does Less When You're Sick 
    45:00 – Emotional Abuse vs Coercive Control
    47:30 – Can the Main Breadwinner Be Controlled?
    53:00 – Why Do They Do It? Can Survivors Heal? 
    58:00 – The Anxious, Controlling Attachment Style & 
    Have Your Say – Krasi's Conference Call-Out
    📌 Have your say: Krasi is presenting on coercive control at the Australian National Psychology Conference. Share what you wish psychologists and therapists understood – anonymously, with optional audio. Link in the show notes. Entry form  https://jtwqtij4vdy.typeform.com/to/bjpm4Gy2
     Resources
    The 3 Ds of Coercive Control – the deep-dive episode with Krasi.https://youtu.be/bRmLZBRs--o?si=YZ1951oDofDe_lw7
    1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 | Lifeline 13 11 14 | Police 000

    Section 4AB, Family Law Act 1975 – definition of family violence

    Guest: Krasi Kirova, Clinical Psychologist

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    Survival Mode in Divorce: 3 Anchors to Steady Yourself

    22/06/2026 | 51 mins.
    Listen to this episode if…
    You feel like you're just reacting to whatever your ex or their lawyer throws at you

    You're exhausted, foggy, and making life-changing decisions while running on empty

    You can't tell anymore whether your choices come from your intuition or from fear

    You find it hard to speak up for yourself in mediation, in court, or even to your own lawyer

    You've lost a bit of yourself and want practical ways to feel grounded again

    You want to move from just surviving your divorce to actually flourishing through it

    This podcast is general information only  it is not legal advice. This episode touches on coercive control and post-separation abuse. If you or someone you know is in danger, call 000. For confidential support: 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732).
    If you're feeling stuck in survival mode reacting to every email, every legal letter, every move your ex makes this episode is the deep breath you've been needing. Laura is joined by Sonia Bestulic, award-winning author, speaker and wisdom teacher, whose book Flourish for Mums found Laura right in the middle of her own divorce. Together they unpack what survival mode actually is, why so many of us get stuck in it, and how to gently move out of it.
    00:00 – Are You Stuck in Survival Mode During Your Divorce?
    01:00 – Meet Sonia Bestulic: Author, Speaker & Wisdom Teacher
    03:50 – "I Just Burnt Out": How Survival Mode Shows Up
    05:30 – Why Your Mindset Can Affect Your Case as Much as the Law
    07:00 – What Survival Mode Really Is (Fight, Flight, Freeze)
    08:00 – The Lion Metaphor: A Fuel System Built for Short Bursts
    09:30 – The Warning Signs You've Been in Survival Mode Too Long
    10:50 – When Post-Separation Abuse Is Designed to Exhaust You
    11:40 – The Three Anchors & Building Your Support Team
    12:40 – Anchor One: Nourishing Your Intuition (Your Sacred GPS)
    14:50 – Coercive Control & Learning to Trust Yourself Again
    15:40 – The Morning Body Scan: 15 Minutes That Reset Your Day
    18:30 – How to Tell the Difference Between Fear and Intuition
    21:30 – Anchor Two: Energetic Integrity & Energy Hygiene
    23:30 – Inner Boundaries: What's Mine to Carry and What's Theirs?
    25:30 – Choosing When to Read That Email From Your Ex
    26:40 – The Power of Nature to Recalibrate Your Nervous System
    28:50 – Gratitude: The Highest-Frequency Circuit Breaker
    30:00 – The Gratitude Candle & the Kindness Squirrel
    32:50 – Anchor Three: Sacred Self-Advocacy
    34:50 – Speaking Your Truth Without the Fight Energy
    36:40 – Why Energy Speaks First (Even in the Witness Box)
    40:40 – Daily Practices: Dance, Laughter, Music & Breath
    43:50 – The Cup of Gratitude Ritual
    45:40 – The Roots Metaphor: The Deeper the Roots, the Taller We Grow
    48:40 – The One Thing You Can Start Today
    49:50 – Where to Find Sonia & Her Books
     
    1800 RESPECT — 1800 737 732 (24/7 DV support)

    Lifeline — 13 11 14

    Police — 000 (immediate danger)

    The Divorce Course — www.thedivorcecourse.com.au

    The Divorce Course Empowerment Playlist — on Spotify

    Sonia Bestulic — books Flourish for Mums and Raising Empowered Humans: Unlocking Kids' Self-Leadership and Lifelong Flourishing (Amazon, global delivery). https://soniabestulic.com.au/
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    7 Banking Myths That Are Costing You in Separation

    17/06/2026 | 55 mins.
    🎧 Listen if…
    - You've been told you "can't touch anything" until property settlement is finalised
    - You're scared opening your own account will start a fight
    - You're watching money vanish from the joint account and can't stop it
    - You're the lower earner, worried about being left with nothing while you wait
    - You're paying for everything and scared of being called financially abusive if you stop
    - You've got a kids' savings or education account and don't know where it fits
    Disclaimer: General information and education only, not legal advice. Please consult a family lawyer about your situation.
    🛟 Discusses financial abuse & coercive control.

    Can you really not touch any money until property settlement? Mum and I unpack what you can and can't do with your bank accounts after separation: the difference between managing day-to-day finances and dividing property, what happens to accounts in your own name versus joint accounts, and how to handle it whether your ex is amicable, high conflict, or controlling. We cover opening a new account, freezing joint accounts, what to do if it's emptied, kids' accounts, child support myths, and the warning signs of financial abuse.
    ⏱️ CHAPTERS
    00:00 – Banking Through Separation: The Questions Everyone's Afraid to Ask
    02:00 – Education Only & Why Your Lawyer Comes First
    03:00 – The Two Big Myths: "Freeze Everything" vs "Take Everything"
    03:30 – Power Dynamics & Who Makes the Early Money Decisions
    04:00 – Managing Day-to-Day Finances vs Dividing Property
    05:30 – What Happens to Your Bank Accounts When You Separate
    06:00 – "It's Yours": Accounts in Your Own Name
    07:00 – Joint Accounts & Why You Can Take Your Share
    09:30 – Amicable Divorce: Take It, Then Tell Them
    11:00 – High Conflict: Don't Stay Beholden to Your Ex
    12:30 – Manipulative & Controlling Exes & the Groceries Analogy
    13:30 – Is Taking the Money Financial Abuse? Section 4AB Explained
    14:00 – Spousal Maintenance & the Joint-Account "Time Bomb"
    15:30 – Post-Separation Spending, Wastage & Gollings & Scott
    17:30 – Opening Your Own Bank Account (Yes, You Can)
    18:30 – Why You Should Choose a Completely Different Bank
    20:30 – "Will My Ex Find Out?" Tech Abuse, Passwords & Disclosure
    22:30 – Where Should Your Wages Go?
    23:00 – Coming Up: A Coercive Control Q&A With Krazi Kirova
    23:30 – When Your Ex Won't Move Out or Pay the Bills
    24:30 – Reasonableness & How a Judge Will See It
    26:00 – Giving Notice, Justifying It & Part N of the Financial Statement
    27:00 – The Two People This Goes Badly For
    28:30 – Talking to the Bank & Their Limits
    29:00 – How to Freeze a Joint Account (Two to Sign)
    31:00 – Stopping Large Withdrawals & ATM Limits
    32:00 – When the Account Gets Emptied: Spousal Maintenance Options
    33:00 – Urgent Spousal Maintenance Orders Explained
    35:00 – Protect vs Punish: Two Money Mindsets in Divorce
    36:00 – Homework: Talk to Your Bank Anonymously
    37:30 – Splitting the Cash 50/50: Does It Lock In Your Settlement?
    39:00 – How to Document It (A Text Message Is Enough)
    40:30 – Kids' Bank Accounts: Who Controls Them?
    41:30 – Splitting Kids' Accounts & Trustee Options
    42:30 – Using the Kids' Money to Live On (If You Have To)
    43:30 – Kids' Accounts Are Part of the Property Pool & Disclosure
    44:00 – Child Support Myths: The "Every Dollar for the Kids" Trap
    45:30 – The "Basket of Goods" Approach & Living to Your Means
    47:30 – Warning Signs of Financial Abuse
    49:30 – Real-Time Spend Alerts, Passwords & Your Safety
    50:45 – Day-to-Day Finances vs Property Settlement: The Recap
    51:30 – Get on the Mailing List So You're Not Blindsided
    52:00 – Final Homework: Go Open That New Bank Account
    53:30 – Crochet Corner & Sign Off
    54:30 – Commonwealth Bank Next Chapter & Banking Support
    🎧 EPISODES 
    Technology Abuse / Tech Safety – passwords, devices & safety checklist: https://youtu.be/rc8b27R_k9k
    Balancing the Power Dynamic – when one party stalls while the other pushes for settlement: https://youtu.be/coWlWcIq180

    1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732 | Lifeline 13 11 14 | Police 000
    Web: www.thedivorcecourse.com.au/blog
    Q&A questions: thedivorcecoursepodcast@gmail.com
    CommBank Next Chapter – financial abuse support.
    Helped you feel less stuck about your money? Follow, rate, review and share so others can find it too.
    All our best,
    Laura & Lyn
    Your Guides By Your Side
    Co-Hosts of THE DIVORCE COURSE PODCAST
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    Can Kids Decide Where They Live After Separation? How Children's Wishes Actually Count in Family Law

    10/06/2026 | 55 mins.
    🎧 Listen If…
    Your child has said they don't want to go to the other parent's house

    Your ex keeps saying "once they turn [a certain age] they can choose"

    You're worried your child is being pressured, coached, or caught in the middle

    You're hearing two completely different stories from your kids at handover

    You're amicable and thinking of just "letting the kids decide" (please listen first)

    You want to understand how children's views actually reach the court

    General information only not legal advice. Always consult a qualified family lawyer about your situation.🛟 Discusses family violence & coercive control. In danger: 000. Support: 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732), Lifeline 13 11 14.
    About This Episode
    Mum and I unpack what the Family Law Act actually how children's views really reach a judge (family reports, child impact reports, ICLs), and how kids' wishes play out across the four divorce personality types. 
    ⏱️ Timeline
    00:00 Can a Child Choose Which Parent to Live With? 
    02:00 Why the Family Court Won't Ask Kids to Choose 
    06:27 The Best Interests of the Child Test (Section 60CC) 
    09:06 What Age Can a Child Decide Where to Live?
    11:34 How a Child's Wishes Are Actually Heard in Family Law 
    13:25 Child-Inclusive Mediation Explained 
    15:22 Therapy, Family Reports & Expert Evidence 
    19:48 How to Get a Family Report Outside of Court 
    22:35 How Family Violence Changes Parenting Decisions 
    27:22 2024 Family Law Reforms & Common Custody Myths 
    28:29 Can You Force a Teenager to Follow Parenting Orders? 
    31:58 The Reality of Enforcing Orders With Teens 
    33:03 How to Future-Proof Your Parenting Orders 
    34:03 Why Older Teens Have More Say in Where They Live 
    34:35 The Manipulative & Controlling Ex: Hidden Motives 
    36:42 How to Spot Coercion & Coaching Tactics 
    39:04 Love Bombing, Bribery & When the Mask Slips 
    41:54 High-Conflict Exes: Kids Caught in the Middle 
    45:20 The Avoidant Parent & Parentification 
    49:02 Amicable Co-Parents: Why You Still Shouldn't Let Kids Decide 
    51:07 Key Takeaways: Voice Heard, Not Decision Made 
    54:43 Closing Notes & Legal Disclaimer
    🎧 Episodes Mentioned
    Decoding the Child's Best Interests Referenced when discussing the full 60CC best-interests factors https://youtu.be/k4-QTbfW8XM?si=4ltIq0y0ceoMQWym

    Child-Inclusive Mediation Referenced when discussing how children's views are gathered out of court. https://youtu.be/HrEU6dFc0Ko?si=xvSAyfnMJ9oEfXnN

    Handover Hell – When Your Child Refuses to Go Referenced at the end for listeners dealing with handover-day resistance https://youtu.be/YphzOPZmC3k?si=Wf1RwzJMf-ix4N4K

    Support & Resources
    📞 1800 RESPECT 1800 737 732  |  Lifeline 13 11 14  |  Police 000
    The Divorce Course → https://www.thedivorcecourse.com.au
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    All our best, Laura & Lyn – Your Guides By Your Side
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    When & How Can You Make a Settlement Offer in Divorce for Parenting or Property - Step by Step

    03/06/2026 | 55 mins.
    🎧 Listen if you're wondering when you can make an offer, you've received one that floored you, you feel pressured to "be the reasonable one," your ex is high-conflict or controlling, or you've been told you have to go to mediation first.
    ⚠️ General information only, not legal advice Australian family law. Always consult a family lawyer.
    🛟 Discusses coercive control & legal/financial abuse.  Support: 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732). ⏱️ Episode Timeline
    00:00 – What Is an Offer in a Divorce? 
    01:50 – What an Offer Really Is (and What Counteroffers Are)
    02:30 – Do You Need a Lawyer to Make an Offer?
    03:30 – Why Emotional, People-Pleasing Offers Backfire
    04:30 – What You Need Before You Make an Offer: Your Property Pool
    05:00 – Future Needs, Super vs Cash 
    06:00 – Knowing What You're Giving Up With Eyes Wide Open
    07:00 – Rushed & Blindsided Offers:
    08:00 –  Buying Time Before You Agree
    09:00 – Can You Get Out of Something You Signed Under Pressure?
    10:30 – When Can You Make an Offer? Anytime You're Informed
    12:30 – The Best Time to Make Your First Offer & Saving Legal Fees
    13:50 – The Mediation Myth: You Don't Have to Go
    15:40 – Why People Only Get Realistic at Mediation
    17:00 – Time-Limited Offers: Pressure, Deadlines & the Downside
    20:00 – Standing Offers: 
    22:00 – Do Offers Work in Parenting 
    24:30 – Calderbank Offers & Section 114UB Explained
    25:50 – Offer Strategy for an Avoidant Ex
    28:30 – Offer Strategy for a High-Conflict "Yeah, But" Ex
    31:20 – Offer Strategy for an Amicable Ex & Collaborative Law
    36:20 – Can You Offer Directly to Your Ex While Lawyers Are Engaged?
    37:00 – Making Offers to a Narcissistic or Controlling Ex
    39:00 – Don't Feed the Reaction: Grey Rock & Shuttle Negotiation
    41:50 – What to Do When You Get a Bad Offer
    42:50 – Ambit Claims & the Central Practice Direction
    44:00 – Ask for the Authorities: Turning a Bad Offer to Your Advantage
    46:30 – The Consequences of Refusing a Reasonable Offer
    48:50 – Genuine Steps, Compulsory Offers & Costs Protection
    50:00 – Why Offers Stay Hidden From the Judge Until the End
     
     
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The Divorce Course Podcast is hosted by mother–daughter duo Laura Furiosi and family law specialist Lyn Galvin. Together, they break down the complex world of separation and divorce into clear, practical, and empowering conversations. From property settlements and parenting arrangements to dealing with difficult exes, finances, and family court, the podcast gives listeners the knowledge, tools, and confidence to navigate divorce without feeling lost or alone.
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