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The Honest Money Show

Anja Dragovic
The Honest Money Show
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  • The Honest Money Show

    Your Money is Losing Value: Monetary Debasement Explained

    20/02/2026 | 57 mins.
    What is monetary debasement and why do so few people recognise it?
    In this episode of The Honest Money Show, Anja sits down with Ben Gazal to explore his journey into Bitcoin during the 2022 bear market and why education is central to financial empowerment.
    Ben shares how discovering Bitcoin reshaped his understanding of money and the modern financial system. The conversation examines how monetary debasement affects everyday Australians, why simple and relatable education matters, and how community engagement strengthens long term conviction.
    Together, they discuss market sentiment, common misconceptions about Bitcoin, and why it represents a more honest form of money compared to fiat currency. The episode highlights how individuals can take control of their financial future through education, discipline and participation in a growing bottom up movement.
    🎙️ EPISODE SUMMARY
    Anja and Ben examine the weaknesses within the current monetary system and why monetary debasement remains widely misunderstood. Ben reflects on entering Bitcoin during a bear market, the lessons he learned, and why he views Bitcoin as an opt out from traditional finance.
    They explore the importance of education in building conviction, the volatility of market sentiment, and the power of local communities and meetups in spreading awareness. The discussion reinforces that financial freedom begins with understanding money and that Bitcoin offers a pathway towards greater sovereignty and long term stability.
    🔗 FEATURED LINKS
    The Sovereign Strategy: https://app.thesovereignstrategy.com/
    Investment Calculator Tool - https://app.thesovereignstrategy.com/calculator
    Ben Gazal on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_sovereignstrategy/
    Ben Gazal on X: https://x.com/gazal37749
    🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS
    • Ben’s journey into Bitcoin began during the 2022 bear market
    • Monetary debasement is a critical but under recognised issue
    • Simple, relatable education resonates most effectively
    • Bitcoin provides an opt out from the existing financial system
    • Education builds long term conviction
    • Community engagement strengthens awareness and understanding
    • Market sentiment is volatile but discipline matters
    • Criticism of Bitcoin often stems from misunderstanding
    • Bitcoin represents a more honest form of money
    • Financial freedom becomes achievable through knowledge and consistent action
    ⏱️ CHAPTERS
    00:11 Introduction to Bitcoin and Community
    01:43 Ben’s Bitcoin Journey and Initial Impressions
    06:02 Educating Others on Monetary Debasement
    11:12 Understanding the Current Financial System
    15:52 Finding Solutions and Bitcoin as a Hedge
    20:57 Community Engagement and Local Meetups
    22:37 Market Sentiment and Conviction in Bitcoin
    27:06 The Importance of Education in Bitcoin
    30:59 Criticism and Misunderstanding of Bitcoin
    36:53 The Value of Bitcoin as Honest Money
    41:29 The Future of Bitcoin and Financial Freedom
    🔗 AFFILIATE LINKS
    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign-Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://www.hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney
    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney
    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au
    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money
    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow in Bitcoin, Keep Your Stack
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money
    📌 ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW
    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in depth conversations with builders, thinkers and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides practical, grounded insights.
    🔗 CONNECT WITH US
    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into finance, economics and financial literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok and LinkedIn at HonestMoneyShow
    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.
    #Bitcoin #MonetaryDebasement #BenGazal #FinancialFreedom #SoundMoney #PersonalFinance #CryptoEducation #BitcoinCommunity #Investing #HonestMoneyShow
  • The Honest Money Show

    How Much Bitcoin Do You Really Need to Be Financially Free?

    13/02/2026 | 1h 16 mins.
    How much Bitcoin is actually enough to achieve financial freedom? That question sits at the centre of this episode as Rajat Soni joins The Honest Money Show to explore what it really takes for individuals and couples to build lasting wealth.
    Rajat shares his journey from traditional finance into Bitcoin education, explaining how discovering Bitcoin reshaped his understanding of money, savings, and long-term planning. The conversation breaks down practical strategies for accumulating Bitcoin, balancing debt and investing, and focusing on consistent habits that compound over time.
    Together, Anja and Rajat discuss the mindset required to think long term, the role of community in financial education, and why starting small can still lead to meaningful change. Through real success stories and actionable insights, the episode highlights how Bitcoin can serve as a tool for economic empowerment and financial independence.
    🎙️ EPISODE SUMMARY
    Anja and Rajat examine the question of how much Bitcoin is needed for financial freedom and what that goal actually means in practice. They discuss Rajat’s accidental entry into finance, the mindset shifts required to understand Bitcoin, and the importance of disciplined saving and investing. The episode emphasises education, community support, and focusing on controllable inputs while allowing time to drive financial growth.
    🔗 FEATURED LINKS
    • Rajat Soni on X: https://x.com/Rajatsoni
    • Rajat's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@rajatsonifinance
    • Rajat's 1-on-1 Coaching: https://rajatsonifinance.schedulista.com
    • Rajat's Compound Interest Calculator (Download Link):
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1er5mqjRfMFm6QIYY3LHyxdB-1-Bg5oa9z_c4v5MAyFQ/edit?gid=789620987
    🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS
    • Rajat Soni entered finance accidentally through an early interest in accounting
    • He transitioned from traditional finance to Bitcoin education and content creation
    • Financial freedom depends on lifestyle, discipline, and long-term thinking
    • Owning even a small amount of Bitcoin can be a powerful starting point
    • Bitcoin challenges traditional ideas about money and trust
    • Education and community are central to economic empowerment
    • Bitcoin can motivate higher productivity and income generation
    • Real-world success stories show the impact of consistent investing
    • A balanced approach to debt and investing is essential
    • Focusing on inputs and patience allows compounding to work
    ⏱️ CHAPTERS
    00:11 – How Much Bitcoin Is Enough?
    03:06 – Rajat’s Accidental Path into Finance
    06:32 – Mindset Shifts Required to Understand Bitcoin
    13:20 – Discovering Bitcoin’s Real Value
    19:42 – Self-Custody and Bitcoin’s Unique Features
    26:00 – Trust and the History of Money
    29:05 – Education and Building a Community
    36:31 – Success Stories from the Bitcoin Journey
    42:03 – Bitcoin and Financial Freedom
    44:35 – Balancing Debt and Investment
    50:45 – Starting from Zero and Building Wealth
    1:00:06 – Couples and Shared Financial Goals
    1:08:21 – Escaping the Rat Race
    🔗 AFFILIATE LINKS
    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign-Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://www.hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney
    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney
    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au
    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money
    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow in Bitcoin, Keep Your Stack
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money
    📌 ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW
    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary systems and personal finance to Bitcoin. Through in-depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides grounded, practical insights.
    🔗 CONNECT WITH US
    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into finance, economics, and financial literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn: @HonestMoneyShow
    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.
    #Bitcoin #RajatSoni #FinancialFreedom #PersonalFinance #WealthBuilding #FinancialIndependence #BitcoinEducation #MoneyEducation #BitcoinCommunity #HonestMoneyShow
  • The Honest Money Show

    The Debasement Trade: How to Protect Your Wealth

    06/02/2026 | 54 mins.
    Gold and silver are surging as investors respond to the growing debasement of global currencies, rising sovereign debt, and persistent inflation.
    James Lavish joins The Honest Money Show to break down what he calls the “debasement trade”, not a short-term bet, but a long-term position against the weakening purchasing power of the dollar. The conversation explores why governments are trapped in debt cycles, how inflation spreads through the economy, and why wealth disparity continues to widen into a K-shaped recovery.
    James also shares his outlook on Bitcoin as a long-term hedge in an unstable financial system, the risks of leverage, and why understanding monetary incentives is essential for navigating the years ahead.
    🎙️ EPISODE SUMMARY
    Anja and James discuss the current macroeconomic environment driving gold and silver higher, the dangers of sovereign debt contagion, and the structural forces behind inflation and currency debasement. They explore the Cantillon effect, the growing wealth gap, and why Bitcoin remains a compelling long-term investment despite volatility. The episode emphasises positioning wisely, avoiding leverage, and understanding the deeper mechanics of the financial system.
    🔗 FEATURED LINKS
    • The Informationist newsletter: https://www.jameslavish.com
    • James Lavish on X: https://x.com/jameslavish
    • The Debasement Trade Report: https://www.unchained.com/go/the-debasement-trade
    🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS
    • Gold and silver prices are surging due to the debasement trade
    • The U.S. dollar is losing purchasing power amid excessive debt and inflation
    • Investors are turning to hard assets as protection against currency debasement
    • Sovereign debt poses systemic risks and potential financial contagion
    • Wealth disparity is increasing, creating a K-shaped economy
    • The Cantillon effect benefits those closest to newly created money
    • Bitcoin is viewed as a long-term hedge despite short-term volatility
    • The financial system is showing warning signs of instability
    • Understanding monetary incentives is crucial for investors
    • Leverage in Bitcoin carries significant risk and should be approached cautiously
    ⏱️ CHAPTERS
    00:11 – Introduction to the Debasement Trade
    07:14 – Understanding the Global Economic Landscape
    20:07 – The Risks of Sovereign Debt and Contagion
    30:21 – The K-Shaped Economy and Wealth Disparity
    36:42 – Bitcoin: Current Trends and Future Predictions
    50:48 – Final Thoughts and Investment Strategies
    🔗 AFFILIATE LINKS
    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign-Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://www.hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney
    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney
    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au
    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money
    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow in Bitcoin, Keep Your Stack
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money
    📌 ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW
    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary expansion and lending markets to Bitcoin. Through in-depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides grounded, practical insights.
    🔗 CONNECT WITH US
    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into finance, economics, and financial literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn: @HonestMoneyShow
    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.
    #Bitcoin #Gold #Silver #Inflation #SoundMoney #DebasementTrade #SovereignDebt #WealthDisparity #CantillonEffect #HonestMoneyShow #JamesLavish
  • The Honest Money Show

    Bitcoin Exposes Fake Conviction

    30/01/2026 | 46 mins.
    Most people don’t fail Bitcoin because they sell too early. They fail because they never had conviction in the first place.
    British Hodl explains why last year was the real stress test separating tourists from true holders, why sentiment is always darkest before adoption accelerates, and why becoming a whole coiner is more psychological than financial.
    This is a conversation about volatility, belief, holding through noise, and why Bitcoin forces you to think in decades not months.
    🎙️ EPISODE SUMMARY
    British Hodl joins Anja to break down what drives Bitcoin sentiment, why social media exaggerates fear, and why conviction is the most underrated investing skill. They compare Bitcoiners to gold and commodities investors, discuss why holding is harder than buying, and explore Bitcoin’s role as a long-term escape from broken monetary incentives.
    🔗 FEATURED LINKS
    • British Hodl on X: https://x.com/BritishHodl
    • British Hodl on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@britishhodl23
    🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS
    • Conviction is built during drawdowns not bull markets
    • Most investors borrow beliefs instead of developing their own
    • Bitcoiners think long term while gold investors stay stuck in doom
    • One Bitcoin is becoming an aspirational lifetime asset
    • The simplest strategy remains buy Bitcoin and hold
    • Volatility is the cost of admission for generational upside
    • Understanding money vs currency changes everything
    • Credit markets explain how wealth is actually created
    • Ignore sentiment cycles focus on ownership
    • Holding forever is the real unlock
    ⏱️ CHAPTERS
    00:11 Introduction to British Hodl
    00:48 Market Sentiment and Conviction
    04:11 The Culture of Gold vs Bitcoin
    05:41 Insights from Michael Saylor's WBD Interview
    09:09 The Future of Bitcoin Holdings
    10:47 The Most Underrated Investing Skill
    12:55 Bitcoin's Volatility and Market Maturity
    17:46 The Aspirational Goal of One Bitcoin
    21:46 Holding Bitcoin Forever
    24:38 Bridging TradFi and Bitcoin
    25:37 Understanding Currency vs Money
    26:57 The Role of Credit Markets in Wealth
    28:32 Facing Criticism in the Bitcoin Space
    34:07 Adapting Investment Strategies
    37:57 Why Choose iBit Over Bitcoin
    40:47 Assessing Risks in the Financial Landscape
    46:36 Final Thoughts and Wealth Building Strategies
    🔗 AFFILIATE LINKS
    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign-Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://www.hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney
    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney
    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au
    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money
    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow in Bitcoin, Keep Your Stack
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money
    📌 ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW
    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary expansion and lending markets to Bitcoin. Through in-depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides grounded, practical insights.
    🔗 CONNECT WITH US
    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into finance, economics, and financial literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram X TikTok and LinkedIn @HonestMoneyShow
    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.
    #Bitcoin #BritishHodl #WholeCoiner #MarketVolatility #FinancialLiteracy #TradFi #HonestMoneyShow #Conviction #WealthBuilding
  • The Honest Money Show

    Your Government Wants You Broke, Bitcoin Changes That

    23/01/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    Many Australians are rethinking entrepreneurship, housing, and long-term opportunity in today’s economic and political environment.
    Adam Hudson, Australian entrepreneur and Bitcoiner, joins The Honest Money Show to discuss his 30+ years of experience in business, his journey into Bitcoin, and why he believes Bitcoin represents both an economic breakthrough and a moral choice.
    The conversation explores housing affordability, government policy, democracy, and the responsibility individuals have to educate themselves and engage in political discourse. Rather than focusing on price or speculation, the episode approaches Bitcoin as a framework for long-term thinking, personal agency, and navigating uncertainty.
    🎙️ EPISODE SUMMARY
    Anja and Adam discuss Adam’s entrepreneurial background, how his understanding of Bitcoin evolved, and why he views it as both an investment and a moral choice. They examine housing affordability in Australia, the role of government, political disillusionment, and the importance of speaking honestly while maintaining perspective. The conversation also highlights community, education, and finding balance amidst uncertainty.
    🔗 FEATURED LINKS
    • Adam Hudson: https://www.adamhudson.com
    • Adam Hudson on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/adamhudsonofficial/?hl=en
    • Unemployable Media: https://www.youtube.com/@UCGx7dY-60ZcFiT-S8EDQERw 
    • Bitcoin Bush Bash: https://bitcoinbushbash.info 
    🔑 KEY TAKEAWAYS
    • Adam Hudson has over 30 years of entrepreneurial experience
    • Bitcoin can be understood as both an investment and a moral choice
    • Bitcoin offers a unique long-term economic perspective
    • Housing affordability is a major challenge in Australia
    • Government policy has significant impact on economic outcomes
    • Democracy and political discourse are under increasing strain
    • Young Australians may benefit from exploring opportunities abroad
    • Grassroots community plays a key role in Bitcoin adoption
    • Education is essential to understanding money and incentives
    • Finding balance and peace is important amid global uncertainty
    ⏱️ CHAPTERS
    00:11 – Introduction to Adam Hudson
    01:18 – Adam’s Entrepreneurial Journey
    03:23 – The Evolution of Bitcoin Understanding
    06:43 – The Economic Perspective on Bitcoin
    11:31 – The Moral and Ethical Side of Bitcoin
    14:21 – Political Perspectives on Housing Affordability
    17:26 – Conspiracy Theories and Political Disillusionment
    20:42 – The State of Democracy in Australia
    27:51 – Advice for Young Australians on Investment
    34:17 – The Burden of Taxes in Australia
    35:47 – Living Abroad for Personal Growth
    36:13 – Perceptions of Australia and Entitlement
    37:45 – Concerns Over Government Policies
    39:51 – The Role of Bitcoin in Financial Freedom
    42:30 – Taxation and Leaving Australia
    44:19 – The State of Australia’s Government and Society
    46:04 – The Need for Change in Australia
    48:07 – Criticism of Those Considering Leaving Australia
    50:54 – The Importance of Speaking Up
    56:36 – Navigating Uncertainty in the World
    59:17 – Educating Yourself About Bitcoin
    🔗 AFFILIATE LINKS
    Buy Bitcoin in Australia With a $10 Sign-Up Bonus
    HARDBLOCK: https://www.hardblock.com.au/join/honestmoney
    Learn to Acquire, Secure, and Manage Your Bitcoin
    MINERACKS: https://www.mineracks.com/honestmoney
    Shop Signing Devices, Bitaxes, Nodes, Apparel, and More
    SHOP BITCOIN AUSTRALIA: https://shopbitcoin.com.au
    Collaborative Security, Inheritance Planning, and Retirement Strategies
    THE BITCOIN ADVISER: https://content.thebitcoinadviser.com/honest-money
    Reached Terminal Bitcoin? Borrow in Bitcoin, Keep Your Stack
    LOAN MY COINS: https://www.loanmycoins.com/honest-money
    📌 ABOUT THE HONEST MONEY SHOW
    The Honest Money Show explores the forces shaping our financial world, from monetary expansion and lending markets to Bitcoin. Through in-depth conversations with builders, thinkers, and educators, the show challenges mainstream narratives and provides grounded, practical insights.
    🔗 CONNECT WITH US
    Subscribe for weekly deep dives into finance, economics, and financial literacy.
    Follow us on Instagram, X, TikTok, and LinkedIn: @HonestMoneyShow
    ⚠️ DISCLAIMER
    This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only and is not financial, legal, or tax advice. The views expressed by the host and guest are their own and do not represent any organisation or regulatory body. Financial markets are volatile and speculative. You should seek independent professional advice before making any financial decisions. By listening, you accept that all actions taken are your own responsibility, and neither the host, guest, nor the podcast accept liability for any loss or damage.
    #Bitcoin #Australia #HousingAffordability #Entrepreneurship #FinancialEducation #Democracy #MoralMoney #HonestMoneyShow #AdamHudson

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About The Honest Money Show

The Honest Money Show is your guide to understanding what money really is — and why today’s system isn’t working. Hosted by Anja Dragovic, this show cuts through the noise to explore how money shapes our lives, where it’s gone wrong, and what a better future could look like. Along the way, you'll discover how Bitcoin fits into the bigger picture — not as hype, but as a serious response to a broken system. Whether you're curious, skeptical, or already down the
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