Get to know Otto Klein, a partner and founder of Summit Law Group, and a giant in public sector labor relations. Guest co-host Jamie Siegel, a mediator and hearing examiner at PERC, also joins Matt and Otto as they discuss valuable insights, tips, and stories.
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Episode 45: The Power of No in Bargaining
No might be the scariest word in negotiations where the goal is to reach an agreement where both sides can say yes. But could there be an upside to the use of No in bargaining? Join Chris and Matt as they talk about ways that a nuanced use of No can be a helpful tool in the negotiations process. References:Never Split the Difference, Chris VossStart With No, Jim CampThree Kinds of No, James Sebenius
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Episode 44: The Virtues of Active Listening in Bargaining
The virtues of active listening have long been touted for its benefit in relationship building and understanding. But modern research has examined how active listening can lead to depolarization and stronger working environments, which we explore on this episode.References:Listening to Understand: The Role of High-Quality Listening on Speakers’ Attitude Depolarization During Disagreements (various authors).Communicating for Workplace Connection: A Longitudinal Study of the Outcomes of Listening Training on Teachers’ Autonomy, Psychological Safety, and Relational Climate (various authors)
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Episode 43: Interest Arbitration – 2023 Trends and Insights
Learn how interest arbitrators decided on issues as wages in times of high CPIs, recruitment and retention in tight labor markets, drug testing in light of legalized cannabis, and scheduling challenges. What trends that might impact today's bargaining, particularly for those with interest arbitration available to them when they reach impasse. References:Interest Arbitration Report, American Bar Association Section of Labor & Employment Law, State and Local Government Bargaining and Employment Law Committee.
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Episode 42: PERColator Profile with Cathy Callahan
Loyd interviews former PERC Executive Director Cathy Callahan References:North Thurston Educational FoundationIn a Landscape
The PERColator podcast, hosted by the Washington State Public Employment Relations Commission, is a space where negotiation theory meets practice. The podcast will explore different themes related to collective bargaining and works to broaden the tools and resources the parties can use in that process to resolve conflicts and enhance labor-management relationships.