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• Big French Energy

  It’s halfway through the year. A lot has happened, but it feels like just the beginning. This week, Matteo and I sat down to record a chat, reflecting on Juneuary from our new, empty home in Sydney. After 15 months in living limbo, it feels wildly significant. Like a big exhale.We began the month in the South of France, our favourite pocket of the world. I was clinging to that trip like a lifeline. Matteo was carrying it like a weight. And yet, we both found it unexpectedly freeing. On the pod, we talk about how stepping away can bring you back to yourself. The confidence I found walking through Paris alone. The unexpected peace Matteo felt turning on his out of office. The perspective that distance can offer.Now that we’re back home in Sydney. The question is, how do you hold onto the feeling you found far away? How do you weave that freedom, that clarity, that spark, into your everyday life?I loved this chat. I hope you do, too.JYK 🤍Show notes:Listen to Cmon by Fred Again.. & Brian Eno.Eat a croissant from Boulangerie-Pâtisserie Terroirs d'Avenir.Listen to David Senra talk about Focus.Find your One Word.Sign up to my newsletter.For anything else email [email protected] :)

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• A Dark Room and My Imagination with Jonno Seidler

  I’ve wanted to chat to Jonno Seidler since 2022. I was standing in a queue at Palermo Airport, waiting for a flight back to London, when a friend sent me an excerpt from his memoir, It’s a Shame About Ray. I was immediately captivated by his writing, his honesty, and his bravery.I grew up around Jonno but reading his memoir, I realised there was so much I didn't know. His experience of bipolar disorder, his dad’s struggles with depression, the shame that surrounded both, and the role that music and creativity have played in helping him make sense of it all.In this episode, we talk about the pressure to succeed, the myth of the tortured artist, and how Jonno finds time to write—between a full-time job, two girls under four, and a looming book deadline.We finish with the song Jonno is listening to on repeat, which I am now obsessed with.I loved this chat. I hope you do too.JYK 🤍Episode Links:Learn more about Jonno Seidler here.Read It's A Shame About Ray and All The Beautiful Things You Love.Listen to Jonno on ABC's Conversations.Listen to Piero Piccioni's Addio, amore mio. Order a One Word Journal.For new pods, sign up to my newsletter.For anything else email [email protected] :)

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• "Hair is everything" with Madeleine Gottlieb

  This week I spoke with Madeleine Gottlieb — an award-winning director, producer, screenwriter, and one of my oldest friends.I met Mads when I was five. She was the smartest person I’d ever met, with the bluest eyes and the most commanding presence.We were a couple of drama kids. And listening back to this conversation on a walk this week, I realised, we still are.We talk about morning rituals, meditation, ADHD, therapy, why Mads’ word for 2025 scares her, and how cutting off all her hair at a roadside barber in Hobart turned out to be the best thing she ever did.I loved this chat. It’s messy and raw and it made me smile. It also made me want to be braver. To be more myself. Because over the last decade, Mads has stopped hiding. She’s learning to live, fully and honestly, as who she truly is.I hope you enjoy this chat as much as I did.JYK 🤍Episode Links:Learn more about Madeleine Gottlieb: https://www.madeleinegottlieb.comSign up to Between The Lines: https://jessicayolandakaye.substack.comRead the letter by Sol LeWitt and Eva Hesse: Letters of notePick your one word for 2025: www.myword.is

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• Going Analogue

  When Matteo and I spent two months in Puglia at the end of last year, living in a sleepy seaside town, we had a weekend ritual: a long walk by the sea, swimming and reading at Lo Scalo, spaghetti vongole and a spritz, a gelato along the promenade, and a movie on the couch.Off our phones, away from the rest of the world, we could switch off. It was incredible.I’ve been thinking about it a lot lately—less about Puglia, more about the presence we were able to cultivate there. Il dolce far niente—the sweetness of doing nothing—and how hard that is to access in the real world. A world that keeps getting faster and noisier, constantly telling us we should do more.Should we?More and more, I think definitely not.This week on the pod, we talk about that. About going analogue, content fatigue, the tyranny of should, and why I forgot—then remembered—that I’m an artist.🕊🕊🕊You can find the One Word Journal here: https://www.myword.is/journal Between The Lines Newsletter here: https://jessicayolandakaye.substack.com/subscribe 

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• Brave like Bob Dylan

  There’s a scene in A Complete Unknown I can’t stop thinking about.Bob Dylan steps on stage at the Newport Folk Festival in ’65. Thousands and thousands of people chant his name. They came to hear the songs they know. To see the Dylan they know.But Dylan has moved on.He picks up his electric guitar and plays his new music. The crowd boos. They throw things. Festival organisers try to cut the sound.It’s uncomfortable to watch. I caught myself thinking, Just give them what they want.But he doesn’t.He stands there and keeps playing. Looking forward, not back.And sitting in that dark cinema on a quiet Sunday afternoon, I realised —I want to be brave like Dylan.Lately, I’ve felt torn—between what I think I should do and what feels true.We talk about that on the pod this week.Sign up to Between The Lines newsletter for more

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