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• 645. Is the Air Traffic Control System Broken?

  Flying in the U.S. is still exceptionally safe, but the system relies on outdated tech and is under tremendous strain. Six experts tell us how it got this way and how it can (maybe) be fixed. (Part one of a two-part series.) SOURCES:Dorothy Robyn, senior fellow at I.T.I.F.Ed Bastian, C.E.O. of Delta Airlines.John Strong, professor of finance and economics at the William and Mary School of Business.Kenneth Levin, retired air traffic controller.Polly Trottenberg, former deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Transportation. RESOURCES:"Brand New Air Traffic Control System Plan," (Federal Aviation Administration, 2025).The Air Traffic Controller Workforce Imperative: Staffing Models and Their Implementation to Ensure Safe and Efficient Airspace Operations, by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (2025)."Annual Aviation Infrastructure Report: 2025," by Marc Scribner (Reason Foundation, 2025)."New air traffic academy died in Congress despite dire need for more staff," by Lori Aratani (The Washington Post, 2025)."The Real Problem With the FAA," by Dorothy Robyn (The Atlantic, 2025)."How Much Do Jet Aircraft Pay into the Airport and Airway Trust Fund to Fly from Dallas to D.C.?" by Ann Henebery, (Eno Center for Transportation, 2018).Managing the Skies, by John Strong and Clinton Oster (2016). EXTRAS:"Freakonomics Radio Takes to the Skies," series by Freakonomics Radio (2023)."In Praise of Maintenance," by Freakonomics Radio (2016).

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• 644. Has America Lost Its Appetite for the Common Good?

  Patrick Deneen, a political philosopher at Notre Dame, says yes. He was a Democrat for years, and has now come to be seen as an “ideological guru” of the Trump administration. But that only tells half the story ... SOURCES:Patrick Deneen, professor of political science at the University of Notre Dame. RESOURCES:"The Ideological Gurus Battling for the Soul of Trump World," by Joshua Chaffin and Zusha Elinson (Wall Street Journal, 2025)."Why the MAGA-DOGE coalition will hold," by Patrick Deneen (UnHerd, 2025)."‘I Don’t Want to Violently Overthrow the Government. I Want Something Far More Revolutionary,’" by Ian Ward (POLITICO, 2023).Regime Change: Toward a Postliberal Future, by Patrick Deneen (2023).Why Liberalism Failed, by Patrick Deneen (2018). EXTRAS:"In Search of the Real Adam Smith," series by Freakonomics Radio (2022).

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• Extra: A Modern Whaler Speaks Up (Update)

  Bjørn Andersen has killed hundreds of minke whales. He tells us how he does it, why he does it, and what he thinks would happen if whale-hunting ever stopped. (This bonus episode is a follow-up to our series “Everything You Never Knew About Whaling.”) SOURCES:Bjørn Andersen, Norwegian whaler. RESOURCES:"Digestive physiology of minke whales," by S.D. Mathiesen, T.H. Aagnes, W. Sørmo, E.S. Nordøy, A.S. Blix, M.A. Olsen (Developments in Marine Biology, 1995)."Norway Is Planning to Resume Whaling Despite World Ban," by Craig Whitney (New York Times, 1992)."Commission Votes to Ban Hunting of Whales," by Philip Shabecoff (New York Times, 1982). EXTRAS:"Everything You Never Knew About Whaling," series by Freakonomics Radio (2023).

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• What Can Whales Teach Us About Clean Energy, Workplace Harmony, and Living the Good Life? (Update)

  In the final episode of our whale series, we learn about fecal plumes, shipping noise, and why Moby-Dick is still worth reading. (Part 3 of "Everything You Never Knew About Whaling.") SOURCES:Michele Baggio, professor of economics at the University of Connecticut.Mary K. Bercaw-Edwards, professor of maritime English at the University of Connecticut and lead foreman at the Mystic Seaport Museum.Hester Blum, professor of English at Washington University in St. Louis.Eric Hilt, professor of economics at Wellesley College.Kate O’Connell, senior policy consultant for the marine life program at the Animal Welfare Institute.Maria Petrillo, director of interpretation at the Mystic Seaport Museum.Joe Roman, fellow and writer-in-residence at the Gund Institute for Environment, University of Vermont. RESOURCES:Eat, Poop, Die: How Animals Make Our World, by Joe Roman (2023).“Racial Diversity and Team Performance: Evidence from the American Offshore Whaling Industry,” by Michele Baggio and Metin M. Cosgel (S.S.R.N., 2023).“Why 23 Dead Whales Have Washed Up on the East Coast Since December,” by Tracey Tully and Winston Choi-Schagrin (The New York Times, 2023).“Suspected Russia-Trained Spy Whale Reappears Off Sweden’s Coast,” by A.F.P. in Stockholm (The Guardian, 2023).“International Trade, Noise Pollution, and Killer Whales,” by M. Scott Taylor and Fruzsina Mayer (N.B.E.R. Working Paper, 2023).“World-First Map Exposes Growing Dangers Along Whale Superhighways,” by the World Wildlife Fund (2022).“Lifting Baselines to Address the Consequences of Conservation Success,” by Joe Roman, Meagan M. Dunphy-Daly, David W. Johnston, and Andrew J. Read (Trends in Ecology & Evolution, 2015).“Wages, Risk, and Profits in the Whaling Industry,” by Elmo P. Hohman (The Quarterly Journal of Economics, 1926).Moby-Dick, by Herman Melville (1851). EXTRAS:“Why Do People Still Hunt Whales? (Update)” by Freakonomics Radio (2025).“How Much Does Discrimination Hurt the Economy?” by Freakonomics Radio (2021).

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• Why Do People Still Hunt Whales? (Update)

  For years, whale oil was used as lighting fuel, industrial lubricant, and the main ingredient in (yum!) margarine. Whale meat was also on a few menus. But today, demand for whale products is at a historic low. And yet some countries still have a whaling industry. We find out why. (Part 2 of “Everything You Never Knew About Whaling.”) SOURCES:Jay Alabaster, doctoral student at Arizona State University’s Walter Cronkite School of Journalism.Bjorn Basberg, professor emeritus of economic history at the Norwegian School of Economics.Eric Hilt, professor of economics at Wellesley College.Kate O’Connell, senior policy consultant for the marine life program at the Animal Welfare Institute.Paul Watson, environmental activist and founder of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. RESOURCES:“The Soviet Union Killed an Appalling Number of Whales. I Wanted to Know Why,” by Ryan Tucker Jones (Slate, 2022).“Behind the Smile: The Multi-Billion Dollar Dolphin Entertainment Industry,” by World Animal Protection (2019).“Japan to Resume Commercial Whaling, Defying International Ban,” by Daniel Victor (The New York Times, 2018).“Why Is There Not More Outrage About Japan’s Barbaric Practice of Whaling?” by Boris Johnson (The Telegraph, 2018).“Margarine Once Contained a Whole Lot More Whale,” by Sarah Laskow (Gastro Obscura, 2017).“3 Million Whales Were Killed in the 20th Century: Report,” (N.B.C. News, 2015).“The Spectacular Rise and Fall of U.S. Whaling: An Innovation Story,” by Derek Thompson (The Atlantic, 2012).In Pursuit of Leviathan: Technology, Institutions, Productivity, and Profits in American Whaling, 1816-1906, by Lance E. Davis, Robert E. Gallman, and Karin Gleiter (1997).“Norway Is Planning to Resume Whaling Despite World Ban,” by Craig R. Whitney (The New York Times, 1992). EXTRAS:“The First Great American Industry,” by Freakonomics Radio (2023).

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