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    Justine Morris: Diagnosed at 28, in Surgical Menopause at 29 - What Every Woman Needs to Hear | #161

    19/05/2026 | 47 mins.
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    She found the lump herself at 28. Was misdiagnosed. Found out seven months later it was cancer. And she started chemo dancing.


    Justine Morris is one of the most joyful people I know, and her joy is not accidental. It is a decision she makes every single day. In this conversation we talk about what it really means to live through breast cancer at 29, survive surgical menopause overnight, and then figure out how to actually live in your body after treatment ends.

    What We Explore:
    - Why the misdiagnosis happened and what every woman needs to know about advocating for her own breast health.
    - What overnight surgical menopause feels like at 29 when no one around you has any frame of reference.
    - Why the year after treatment ends is often the hardest part nobody talks about.
    - How to push back on your doctor, your insurance company, and anyone who tells you no without a written record.
    - Why knowing your baseline labs, bone density, and imaging before anything goes wrong may be the most important health move you make.
    - What choosing to live fully actually looks like in practice, not just as a phrase.

    About Justine Morris
    Justine Morris is a content creator and breast cancer advocate who shares honest, compassionate conversations about life during and after cancer. Diagnosed in her late 20s, she uses her platform to speak openly about survivorship, health, and the emotional realities that often go unspoken.
    With a background in influencer marketing and communications, Justine brings both heart and clarity to the content she creates, helping women feel informed, supported, and less alone. Her work centers on trust, transparency, and making complex health experiences feel more approachable.
    Across Instagram, TikTok, and Substack, Justine blends education with real life, partnering with brands and organizations that align with her values. She is passionate about advocating for patient awareness, thoughtful healthcare, and finding moments of joy and connection, even in uncertainty.

    Connect with Justine Morris:
    Instagram: https:/ /www.instagram.com/justinesmorris/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinemorris29/
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/justinesbooklist/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@justinesmorris

    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    02:20 Diagnosed at 28: Finding the Lump and Doing Everything Right
    05:30 Starting Chemo with a Smile
    10:40 Chemo Brain vs Menopause Brain
    13:50 Young Adult Cancer Is Rising.
    18:00 Ignoring the Internet's Opinion
    20:05 How to Advocate for Yourself
    26:00 Why Every Woman Needs a Baseline Before Something Goes Wrong
    28:45 Insurance Denials, AI Appeals, and How to Keep Pushing
    33:20 Women Advocate for Everyone Except Themselves
    36:40 The Year After Treatment Is the Hardest Part
    43:00 What Living Fully Means
    46:20 Non-Negotiable Habits After Cancer


    Start your Unbreakable journey
    Most women are never given a clear plan for how to stay strong as they age.
    The Unbreakable Lifestyle is where that changes.
    This is the home of Dr. Vonda's method — built from 20+ years of clinical work and designed for real life.
    Inside:
    - Unbreakable Assessment — know exactly where you stand
    - Training plans — build muscle, protect bone, improve performance
    - AI Dr. Vonda — get answers and guidance anytime
    - Community — women committed to staying strong and engaged
    - Exclusive education — what actually works, all in one place
    This is not another program.
    This is how you build strength — with direction.
    Join the Unbreakable Lifestyle: https://www.theunbreakablelifestyle.com/

    Build stronger bones
    Bone loss starts earlier than you think — and speeds up in midlife.
    Dr. Vonda's Unbreakable Bone Health formula supports bone density, strength, and long-term skeletal health with clinically researched ingredients.
    Foundational. Not optional.
    Shop now: https://shop.drvondawright.com/?utm_s
     
    Read the book
    Unbreakable: A Woman's Guide to Aging with Power
    A clear, science-backed roadmap to building strength, supporting your body, and taking control of how you age.
    Get your copy: https://theunbreakablebook.com?utm_so 
     
    About Dr. Vonda Wright
    Dr. Vonda Wright is an orthopedic sports surgeon and leading expert in women's health and longevity.
    For over 20 years, she has helped women build muscle, strengthen bone, and extend their health span — with science, not guesswork.
    Her mission is simple: help women age with power.
     
    Connect with Dr. Vonda
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drvondawright
    Substack: https://drvondawright.substack.com/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drvondawright
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vonda-wright-md-ms-2803374
    Website: http://www.drvondawright.com
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    Kayla Girgen: Why Women Over 50 Wake at 3AM, Lose Muscle, and Can't Lose Weight | #160

    12/05/2026 | 58 mins.
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    Your blood sugar is telling you everything. You just haven't been listening.


    In this episode, I sit down with registered dietitian and certified personal trainer Kayla Girgen, one of the first clinicians to bring continuous glucose monitoring to everyday women who do not have diabetes. If you have ever eaten well, exercised hard, and still felt like your body was working against you, this conversation will change the way you see your metabolism forever.


    What We Explore:
    - How a CGM reveals what food, stress, sleep, and exercise are doing to your blood sugar in real time.
    - Why pre-diabetes is one of the most under-treated diagnoses in women's health.
    - Why fasting insulin is the number you actually need.
    - What your blood sugar crashing at 3am has to do with why you cannot get back to sleep.
    - How to eat enough protein without overhauling your entire routine overnight.
    - Why rucking is one of the most practical tools for building strength, improving body composition, and boosting bone density.

    About Kayla Girgen
    KAYLA GIRGEN, RD, LD, CPT, is a registered dietitian, certified personal trainer, and founder of Sugar + Strength Academy—an online wellness community helping women balance blood sugar and build strength, one step at a time. She blends real-life tools, such as continuous glucose monitoring (CGM), with accessible movement, like rucking, to help clients break free from diet extremes and feel strong—both physically and mentally. Kayla's approach centers on progress over perfection and creating results that work in real life. Her upcoming book Ruck Fit shares how rucking became a catalyst for reclaiming her physical and mental health, proving that fitness doesn't have to be complicated to be life-changing.

    Connect with Kayla Girgen:
    Website: https://kaylagirgenrd.com/
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kaylagirgenrd/ 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaylagirgen/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kaylagirgenrd
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kaylagirgenrdld
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kaylagirgenrd

    Book - RUCK FIT: Build Strength and Endurance by Walking with Weight
    Available here: https://a.co/d/06vLg5nR

    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro
    03:30 How Stress Shows Up on Your Blood Sugar
    09:30 Why Pre-Diabetes Is a Five-Alarm Fire
    13:00 Glucose Typing: Are You a Compensator or a Spiker
    16:25 What to Do If Your Blood Sugar Spikes and Crashes
    20:40 How Long Should You Actually Wear a CGM
    24:00 How to Calculate Your Daily Protein Goal
    29:10 GLP-1s and the Changing Weight Loss Landscape
    34:50 Why Eating Too Little Is the Biggest Mistake Midlife Women Make
    37:00 Rucking: What It Is and Why It Works for Women
    40:00 How Adding Weight Increases Your Training Load by 10 Percent
    45:00 The Top Three Priorities for High-Achieving Women Feeling Stuck
    51:20 Rapid Fire: CGM, Carnivore, and Habits

    Start your Unbreakable journey
    Most women are never given a clear plan for how to stay strong as they age.
    The Unbreakable Lifestyle is where that changes.
    This is the home of Dr. Vonda's method — built from 20+ years of clinical work and designed for real life.
    Inside:
    - Unbreakable Assessment — know exactly where you stand
    - Training plans — build muscle, protect bone, improve performance
    - AI Dr. Vonda — get answers and guidance anytime
    - Community — women committed to staying strong and engaged
    - Exclusive education — what actually works, all in one place
    This is not another program.
    This is how you build strength — with direction.
    Join the Unbreakable Lifestyle: https://www.theunbreakablelifestyle.com/

    Build stronger bones
    Bone loss starts earlier than you think — and speeds up in midlife.
    Dr. Vonda's Unbreakable Bone Health formula supports bone density, strength, and long-term skeletal health with clinically researched ingredients.
    Foundational. Not optional.
    Shop now: https://shop.drvondawright.com/?utm_s
     
    Read the book
    Unbreakable: A Woman's Guide to Aging with Power
    A clear, science-backed roadmap to building strength, supporting your body, and taking control of how you age.
    Get your copy: https://theunbreakablebook.com?utm_so 
     
    About Dr. Vonda Wright
    Dr. Vonda Wright is an orthopedic sports surgeon and leading expert in women's health and longevity.
    For over 20 years, she has helped women build muscle, strengthen bone, and extend their health span — with science, not guesswork.
    Her mission is simple: help women age with power.
     
    Connect with Dr. Vonda
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drvondawright
    Substack: https://drvondawright.substack.com/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drvondawright
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vonda-wright-md-ms-2803374
    Website: http://www.drvondawright.com
  • The Dr Vonda Show

    Gabby Reece: Why Midlife Women Who Refuse to Be Frail Train, Think, and Live Differently | #159

    05/05/2026 | 50 mins.
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    Clear. Practical. No noise.
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    What does it look like to refuse to age into frailty?

    Gabby Reece is 56, trains six days a week, and hasn't relied on willpower once. Here's how she actually does it.


    In this conversation, Gabby and I talk through the real mechanics of a well-designed life. We cover discipline versus willpower, how two strong people build a thriving relationship, and the simple daily practices that keep Gabby strong, grounded, and fully present.

    What We Explore:
    - How discipline and willpower are completely different, and why confusing the two keeps most people stuck.
    - Why Gabby builds personal scaffolding around her real life instead of chasing someone else's routine.
    - How two high-performing partners can lead a relationship rooted in service, mutual respect, and flow.
    - What Gabby's weekly training schedule actually looks like, from land HIIT to pool workouts and Sunday rucks.
    - Why morning sunlight and quiet time are the anchors that make every other habit easier to sustain.
    - How Gabby thinks about nutrition without obsessing over macros or chasing perfection.
    What it takes to stop comparing yourself to your peak athletic self and start building new goals.

    About Gabby Reece
    Gabby Reece is a former professional beach volleyball champion, New York Times bestselling author, entrepreneur, and host of The Gabby Reece Show. She co-founded XPT with her husband Laird Hamilton and has spent decades exploring what it means to live and age with genuine strength.


    Connect with Gabby Reece:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gabbyreece/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@gabbyreeceofficial
    Website: https://gabriellereece.com
     
    Timestamps


    00:00 Intro
    02:50 How Core Values Stay Constant as Life Changes
    05:30 Willpower vs. Discipline: What Biology Actually Says
    09:00 Why Physical Strength Is About More Than Your Body
    12:15 How Two Strong People Build a Thriving Relationship
    18:00 Why Choosing Flow Over Being Right Actually Wins
    23:00 The Morning Ritual That Keeps a Marriage Strong
    27:00 How to Protect Your Energy With Smarter Boundaries
    30:20 How to Eat Well Without Tracking Macros
    34:00 Why You Need New Goals After Peak Performance
    36:50 The Daily Habit Order That Makes Everything Easier
    41:10 Accountability and Grace: How to Balance Both
    43:45 How to Design the Life You Actually Want
    47:50 Simplicity as a Longevity Strategy

    Start your Unbreakable journey
    Most women are never given a clear plan for how to stay strong as they age.
    The Unbreakable Lifestyle is where that changes.
    This is the home of Dr. Vonda's method — built from 20+ years of clinical work and designed for real life.
    Inside:
    - Unbreakable Assessment — know exactly where you stand
    - Training plans — build muscle, protect bone, improve performance
    - AI Dr. Vonda — get answers and guidance anytime
    - Community — women committed to staying strong and engaged
    - Exclusive education — what actually works, all in one place
    This is not another program.
    This is how you build strength — with direction.
    Join the Unbreakable Lifestyle: https://www.theunbreakablelifestyle.com/

    Build stronger bones
    Bone loss starts earlier than you think — and speeds up in midlife.
    Dr. Vonda's Unbreakable Bone Health formula supports bone density, strength, and long-term skeletal health with clinically researched ingredients.
    Foundational. Not optional.
    Shop now: https://shop.drvondawright.com/?utm_s
     
    Read the book
    Unbreakable: A Woman's Guide to Aging with Power
    A clear, science-backed roadmap to building strength, supporting your body, and taking control of how you age.
    Get your copy: https://theunbreakablebook.com?utm_so 
     
    About Dr. Vonda Wright
    Dr. Vonda Wright is an orthopedic sports surgeon and leading expert in women's health and longevity.
    For over 20 years, she has helped women build muscle, strengthen bone, and extend their health span — with science, not guesswork.
    Her mission is simple: help women age with power.
     
    Connect with Dr. Vonda
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drvondawright
    Substack: https://drvondawright.substack.com/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drvondawright
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vonda-wright-md-ms-2803374
    Website: http://www.drvondawright.com
  • The Dr Vonda Show

    You Won't Take Care of Your Body Until You Believe You Are Worth It" | Dr. Arnold Gilberg | #158

    28/04/2026 | 49 mins.
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    Clear. Practical. No noise.
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    At 89 years old, Dr. Arnold Gilberg still feels 40. That is not a metaphor, it is a philosophy. I sat down with this Beverly Hills psychiatrist, ordained rabbi, and author of The Myth of Aging, trained by one of Sigmund Freud's own colleagues, to talk about the one enemy more dangerous than getting older: disengagement.

    What we explore:
     
    - How disengagement, not aging itself, is the true driver of physical and mental decline.
    - Why curiosity is the master key to staying mentally alive as you grow older.
    - How self-forgiveness unlocks behavioral change that willpower alone never can.
    - Why psychiatry's drift toward medication alone is leaving patients behind.
    - Why gratitude, practiced daily, is one of the most powerful tools for vitality.
    - How giving yourself grace, not perfection, finally allows people to act on what they know.
    - What happiness really looks like across a lifetime, and why expecting constant joy backfires.
    - Why vulnerability between doctor and patient, not clinical distance, is what heals.

    About Dr. Arnold Gilberg:
    Arnold L. Gilberg, MD, PhD, received his bachelor's degree in political science and Doctor of Medicine degree from the University of Illinois. He interned at the Los Angeles General Medical Center. He is the last person alive trained by Franz Alexander, MD, a distinguished colleague of Sigmund Freud. His psychiatric training took place at the Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where he was chief psychiatric resident. He also has a doctorate in psychoanalysis from the Southern California Psychoanalytic Institute. 
     
    Dr. Gilberg is a Distinguished Life Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, the former Clinical Chief of Psychiatry at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, and an associate clinical professor at UCLA School of Medicine (honorary). He served for ten years under three different governors on the Medical Board of California for LA County, and has treated thousands of patients in his Los Angeles-based practice.

    📖 Get Dr. Arnold Gilberg's Book:
    The Myth of Aging: A Prescription for Emotional and Physical Well-Being
    https://a.co/d/06sz328q

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    01:46 Disengagement: The Real Enemy of Aging
    05:00 Curiosity as the Key to Staying Mentally Alive
    10:30 Inside The Myth of Aging
    13:00 Vulnerability in the Doctor-Patient Relationship
    18:00 The Gap Between Knowing and Doing
    24:00 Grace, Perfectionism, and What My Teenager Taught Me
    31:00 His Fitness Journey: Starting at 30, Still Going at 89
    36:00 Happiness Is a Rollercoaster, Not a Destination
    43:00 Authenticity Over Performance: The Real Work of Aging Well

    Start your Unbreakable journey
    Most women are never given a clear plan for how to stay strong as they age.
    The Unbreakable Lifestyle is where that changes.
    This is the home of Dr. Vonda's method — built from 20+ years of clinical work and designed for real life.
    Inside:
    - Unbreakable Assessment — know exactly where you stand
    - Training plans — build muscle, protect bone, improve performance
    - AI Dr. Vonda — get answers and guidance anytime
    - Community — women committed to staying strong and engaged
    - Exclusive education — what actually works, all in one place
    This is not another program.
    This is how you build strength — with direction.
    Join the Unbreakable Lifestyle: https://www.theunbreakablelifestyle.com/

    Build stronger bones
    Bone loss starts earlier than you think — and speeds up in midlife.
    Dr. Vonda's Unbreakable Bone Health formula supports bone density, strength, and long-term skeletal health with clinically researched ingredients.
    Foundational. Not optional.
    Shop now: https://shop.drvondawright.com/
     
    Read the book
    Unbreakable: A Woman's Guide to Aging with Power
    A clear, science-backed roadmap to building strength, supporting your body, and taking control of how you age.
    Get your copy: https://www.theunbreakablelifestyle.com/unbreakable-book 
     
    About Dr. Vonda Wright
    Dr. Vonda Wright is an orthopedic sports surgeon and leading expert in women's health and longevity.
    For over 20 years, she has helped women build muscle, strengthen bone, and extend their health span — with science, not guesswork.
    Her mission is simple: help women age with power.
     
    Connect with Dr. Vonda
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drvondawright
    Substack: https://drvondawright.substack.com/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drvondawright
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vonda-wright-md-ms-2803374
    Website: http://www.drvondawright.com
  • The Dr Vonda Show

    Dr. Dan Ginader: Your Glutes Don't Fire and Your Kegels Are Wrong - What Midlife Women Need to Know | #157

    21/04/2026 | 48 mins.
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    Each week, Dr. Vonda shares science-backed guidance on strength, bone health, muscle, and longevity — the same way she speaks to her patients.
    Clear. Practical. No noise.
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    Resting your pain away is not a strategy. It is how women lose strength, mobility, and years of active life.

    I sat down with Dr. Dan Ginader, DPT and Clinic Director of Mims Method Physical Therapy in Manhattan, to unpack the real root causes behind common aches and why movement, not rest, is almost always the answer.


    What we explore:
    - How resting after injury creates the very weakness that leads to the next one
    - Why pain is more often a signal of weakness than structural damage
    - How the Musculoskeletal Syndrome of Menopause affects every tissue as estrogen declines
    - Why frozen shoulder demands a stage-based approach; forcing it only backfires
    - How glute weakness drives most "itises" in active women
    - Why the pelvic floor is the hidden key to glute activation and pain-free movement
    - Why it is never too late to start; it does require more consistency and patience

    About Dr. Dan Ginader:
    Dan Ginader is a Doctor of Physical Therapy based in Midtown Manhattan, New York City. He is widely recognized for his popular social media content, where he explains the common causes of aches and pains and offers simple, actionable ways to address them. With millions of followers across various platforms, Dan remains deeply committed to his in-person practice, where he treats a diverse range of patients, including professional dancers and Broadway performers. Over nearly a decade of experience, he has worked with manual laborers, corporate professionals, athletes, singers, and actors. This broad expertise enables Dan to connect with and provide effective care to people from all walks of life.

    Connect with Dr. Dan Ginader:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.dan_dpt/ 
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danginader/ 
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsXbGLEiQGSFFd9Klj3oufw 
    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dr.danptdpt/ 
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr.dan_dpt

    Book: The Pain-Free Body: Simple Stretches and Exercises for Common Aches and Pains https://www.amazon.com/dp/1628606134
     
    Timestamps
    00:00 Intro: Why rest is rarely the answer to pain
    01:46 The injury-rest-atrophy cycle explained
    03:13 Rebuilding confidence through progressive movement
    05:27 Injury pain vs. workout discomfort
    09:41 Menopause and the musculoskeletal system
    12:00 Osteoporosis, bone loss, and active women
    15:02 How PT adapts for midlife women
    20:26 Frozen shoulder: the two-phase approach
    24:08 Glute tendonitis: weakness is the real culprit
    30:47 Pelvic floor PT and why Kegels often backfire
    33:33 The posture reset habit that actually works
    40:00 Is it ever too late to start?
    40:58 Myth-busting: foam rolling, stretching, heat vs. ice
    44:10 Best recovery tool after heavy lifting

    Start your Unbreakable journey
    Most women are never given a clear plan for how to stay strong as they age.
    The Unbreakable Lifestyle is where that changes.
    This is the home of Dr. Vonda's method — built from 20+ years of clinical work and designed for real life.
    Inside:
    - Unbreakable Assessment — know exactly where you stand
    - Training plans — build muscle, protect bone, improve performance
    - AI Dr. Vonda — get answers and guidance anytime
    - Community — women committed to staying strong and engaged
    - Exclusive education — what actually works, all in one place
    This is not another program.
    This is how you build strength — with direction.
    Join the Unbreakable Lifestyle: https://www.theunbreakablelifestyle.com/

    Build stronger bones
    Bone loss starts earlier than you think — and speeds up in midlife.
    Dr. Vonda's Unbreakable Bone Health formula supports bone density, strength, and long-term skeletal health with clinically researched ingredients.
    Foundational. Not optional.
    Shop now: https://shop.drvondawright.com/?utm_s
     
    Read the book
    Unbreakable: A Woman's Guide to Aging with Power
    A clear, science-backed roadmap to building strength, supporting your body, and taking control of how you age.
    Get your copy: https://theunbreakablebook.com?utm_so 
     
    About Dr. Vonda Wright
    Dr. Vonda Wright is an orthopedic sports surgeon and leading expert in women's health and longevity.
    For over 20 years, she has helped women build muscle, strengthen bone, and extend their health span — with science, not guesswork.
    Her mission is simple: help women age with power.
     
    Connect with Dr. Vonda
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drvondawright
    Substack: https://drvondawright.substack.com/
    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drvondawright
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vonda-wright-md-ms-2803374
    Website: http://www.drvondawright.com
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About The Dr Vonda Show
The Dr Vonda Show is all about staying strong, resilient, and feeling good as you age. Hosted by orthopedic sports surgeon and women's healthy-aging expert Dr. Vonda Wright, the podcast breaks down how movement, muscle, bone health, and mindset impact your life at every stage. Through real conversations with athletes, doctors, and everyday women, Dr. Vonda shares practical, science-backed advice you can actually use to protect your health and keep doing what you love.
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