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In today’s episode, Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley discuss HEICO and TransDigm, two dominant players in the aerospace components industry known for their pricing power and resiliency. They’ll compare how each company grows through acquisitions and organic expansion, how they approach debt and capital allocation, and what gives each business its durable competitive advantages. The discussion also covers the risks facing both companies, including regulatory scrutiny and reliance on continued aerospace demand, as well as potential sources of future growth.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

(00:00:00) Intro

(00:06:41) How TransDigm built its sole-source pricing power model

(00:10:12) How HEICO competes by underpricing original equipment manufacturers

(00:16:14) Why the aerospace industry has such high barriers to entry

(00:19:35) Why both companies rely heavily on acquisitions to grow

(00:29:33) How each company’s approach to debt differs sharply

(00:33:26) Why regulators have started scrutinizing TransDigm’s acquisition strategy

(00:46:20) What gives HEICO and TransDigm such durable competitive advantages

(00:54:08) How ownership and incentive structures shape each management team

(01:07:30) What risks could disrupt either company’s long runway of growth

(01:11:33) Where future growth could come from for both businesses

(01:16:44) Valuation discussion

(01:19:19) Intrinsic value of HEICO

(01:20:07) Whether Kyle & Shawn will add HEICO or TransDigm to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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In today’s episode, Kyle Grieve and Shawn O’Malley discuss Walmart and how it grew from Sam Walton’s small-town five-and-dime into a retail giant. Today, it also makes money from e-commerce, a marketplace, advertising and memberships. They cover the scale advantages behind Walmart’s everyday low prices, how its suppliers end up financing its inventory, and why its power over those suppliers continues to draw antitrust scrutiny. They also look at Walmart’s capital allocation, management, growth levers and the biggest risks facing the business.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

(00:00:00) Intro

(00:02:12) How Sam Walton’s early franchise lessons shaped Walmart’s strategy

(00:11:10) Why trading margin for volume remains core to Walmart

(00:15:21) How Walmart makes money beyond traditional brick-and-mortar retail

(00:28:56) Why everyday low prices built lasting customer trust

(00:34:48) How negative working capital supports Walmart’s free cash flow

(00:38:01) What the PepsiCo case reveals about Walmart’s supplier power

(00:41:19) How Walmart splits capital between buybacks, dividends and reinvestment

(00:53:25) Why the Jet.com acquisition was a good acquisition despite the write-down

(01:05:52) Where Walmart’s future growth may come from

(01:10:14) How agentic AI shopping could threaten Walmart’s customer relationships

(01:15:27) Valuation discussion of Walmart

(01:16:58) Walmart's intrinsic value

(01:19:43) Whether Kyle & Shawn will add Walmart to the Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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In this episode, Stig Brodersen speaks with David Fagan about Total Wealth Performance and why someone with average investment returns can still build a meaningful net worth. They discuss why saving is the first step in wealth creation, why financial independence is a matter of intention rather than luck, and how idle cash quietly becomes one of the most expensive decisions investors ever make.

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(00:04:20) Why David has been a saver ever since he blew his entire net worth on a Hot Wheels racetrack at age eight

(00:12:34) Why money decisions that look odd are often rational given someone's lived experiences

(00:13:56) Why financial independence is not luck but small habits that compound

(00:17:47) What Total Wealth Performance is, and why the return on your broker statement is not your real return

(00:22:29) How Stig thinks about financial independence

(00:29:34) The ABCs of front-end performance: availability, behavior, and configuration

(00:37:55) Why idle cash is one of the most expensive decisions an investor can make

(00:45:00) Why net worth beats portfolio returns as a scorecard during the accumulation phase

(00:54:13) How and why tax is a real expense

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Listen to our interview with David Fagan about investing like a business owner.

Listen to our interview with David Fagan about Buffett's favorite business book.

Connect with David on LinkedIn or through mbf Chartered Professional Accountants.

Stig's blog post on his portfolio and track record since 2014.

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Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley revisit Meta Platforms (NASDAQ: META), the advertising machine behind Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp that reaches 3.6 billion people every day — over 40% of the world’s population — and just grew ad revenue 27% to a nearly $240 billion annual run rate. Yet the stock trades more than 20% below its highs, because the money is going out even faster than it’s coming in: operating margins fell from 43% to 31% in a single year, quarterly free cash flow collapsed from $8.5 billion to $784 million, and capex guidance now sits at $130–145 billion this year — with analysts penciling in $200 billion for next.

Daniel and Shawn dig into what all that spending actually buys. Is this Mark Zuckerberg’s third failed attempt to turn Meta into a platform — after the FarmVille-era Facebook apps and a $100 billion metaverse — or does AI finally make the vision real, whether through AI glasses, a personal agent, a budding cloud business, or an ad engine where every pixel becomes sellable inventory? They also cover Meta’s $17 billion settlement with 47 states over teen safety, the special purpose vehicles keeping tens of billions of data-center debt off Meta’s balance sheet, why Apple is quietly taking the opposite side of Meta’s bet, and why Wall Street rewards Google for the same capex it punishes Meta for. In the end, Daniel rebuilds his valuation model from scratch and decides whether Meta finally earns a spot in The Intrinsic Value Portfolio.

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(00:00:00) Intro

(00:01:54) About Zuckerberg’s Platform Dream

(00:11:52) Why Meta was sued and how it settled

(00:25:18) What the regulatory risk means for Meta’s future

(00:30:56) What Meta’s AI vision looks like

(00:39:00) How AI could revolutionize Meta’s Ads Business

(00:42:02) About the optionality of WhatsApp

(00:53:21) Why AI could make Meta glasses a success

(01:06:58) How Meta is planning to build a Cloud Business

(01:22:46) Meta's valuation discussion

(01:26:29) How much Meta's stock is actually worth

(01:26:51) Whether META will be added to The Intrinsic Value Portfolio

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In this episode, William Green speaks with Rob Vinall, an English hedge fund manager with a terrific track record. Since launching his Business Owner Fund in 2008, he’s racked up stellar annualized returns of 15.5%. Rob almost never gives interviews but speaks in depth here about the principles & practices that have driven his success in the 20 years since he founded his firm, RV Capital—not least, his habit of betting on CEOs who view their business as their life’s work.

IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:

(00:00:00) Intro

(00:03:54) How Rob Vinall vaulted himself out of humble circumstances

(00:14:26) Why he disliked working at Goldman Sachs

(00:17:12) How he taught himself to invest during the dotcom crash

(00:24:20) How Berkshire Hathaway’s annual meeting changed his life

(00:27:39) How he launched a fund with no staff, no office & no track record

(00:41:22) What he learned from Warren Buffett’s relationship with Ajit Jain

(00:50:19) What qualities Rob looks for in outlier CEOs

(01:01:03) Why he admires Mark Zuckerberg & disagrees with Meta’s critics

(01:03:21) How Rob’s thinking about business moats has evolved

(01:04:47) Why he’s betting a third of his assets on out-of-favor Chinese stocks

(01:20:41) Why today’s momentum-driven market is ideal for long-term investors

(01:32:12) How he survived the most traumatic year of his life

(01:42:07) What drives him after 20 years of investment success

(01:48:54) How to handle being rich without wrecking your kids

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William Green’s podcast episode with Terry Smith.

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