Digital Social Hour

What happens when a belief system doesn’t just guide you… but controls you?

In this conversation, John breaks down why active members often won’t ask for transparency, how high-control groups shape behavior through strict rules, and why the internet changed everything for modern religion. He explains Steven Hassan’s BITE Model (Behavior, Information, Thought, Emotion) in a simple way — and shows how it applies far beyond one church.

We also get into the rise of ex-member communities online, why “community” is the real driver behind happiness studies, and how institutions can make small changes while punishing the people who pushed for them.

What You’ll Learn 🎯

🧠 How the BITE Model explains control in religion, politics, and groups
🔒 Why members often avoid transparency questions (even when concerned)
📵 How high-control groups manage information + dissent
🌐 Why the internet reshaped faith communities and ex-member movements
💰 How tithing and temple access can function like a behavioral lever
🤝 Why “community” is the real driver behind religion-linked happiness
⚖️ How institutions can punish reformers while still adopting reforms

Chapters (Timestamps)

0:00 — Why members don’t ask for transparency
1:00 — “The Mormon story is the human story”
2:40 — Religion as a tool for power
3:11 — The BITE Model explained
5:04 — The internet vs. information control
5:35 — 20 years of Mormon Stories
6:31 — Decline in developed countries + growth in Africa
9:12 — The church’s wealth + land ownership
11:19 — Tithing settlement + temple access pressure
18:36 — How change happens: punish the reformer, then adjust

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At AmFest, Sean Kelly speaks with Ryan Williams (aka “Scottish Korean”) about being detained under the UK’s Schedule 7 powers, what that process looked like, and how online speech, policing, and platform bans collide in 2026.

Ryan shares his perspective on controversial posts that led to scrutiny, how authorities handled his devices/accounts, and why he believes cultural and political tensions are escalating across Europe. The conversation also touches on immigration, national identity, and why inflammatory rhetoric spreads faster than nuance online.

Chapters (timestamps)

0:00 – Opening: provocative claims + escalation in online rhetoric
0:24 – Meet Ryan Williams (“Scottish Korean”)
0:42 – What led to detainment (overview)
1:35 – UK arrests for social media posts (discussion)
2:40 – Schedule 7: what the process felt like
3:05 – Devices, passwords, and legal pressure
4:00 – “What’s the realistic approach?” (policy vs rhetoric)
6:20 – “West is too nice?” (culture clash framing)
11:16 – Australia incident mentioned (reaction + politics)
15:03 – Platform bans, mass reporting, and where to find Ryan

🎯 What You’ll Learn

🛂 What Schedule 7 detainment can involve at the border
📱 How devices/accounts become part of investigations
⚖️ Why free speech debates intensify during high social tension
📈 How rage content spreads (and why platforms react)
🧠 How to talk policy without sliding into extremist rhetoric

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At the A4M Conference, Sean Kelly sits down with Dr. Lucia Aronica (Stanford lecturer + nutrigenomics/epigenetics researcher) to break down how food “talks” to your genes — and why most people are missing the nutrients that actually run the “software.”

They debunk the cholesterol + eggs myth, explain why choline is a forgotten essential nutrient, and introduce Dr. Lucia’s practical framework for “epi-nutrition”: using specific foods to flip epigenetic switches that support brain health, metabolism, inflammation, and longevity.

🎯 What You’ll Learn

🧬 How the epigenome acts like software that turns genes on/off
🍳 Why egg yolks + cholesterol fear is mostly outdated science
🧠 Why choline matters for brain, liver, and gene regulation
🥗 How to build meals that support gene expression (protein + plants)
🧫 What fermented foods do (pre/pro/postbiotics)
⚖️ What the Stanford twin study results do and don’t prove
🔥 How weight gain creates an epigenetic “fat memory” (and how it fades)

Chapters (Timestamps)

0:00 – The cholesterol myth (eggs aren’t the villain)
0:32 – Meet Dr. Lucia Aronica at A4M
0:53 – DNA hardware vs epigenome software
1:28 – “Epi-nutrition”: nourishing genes with food
2:24 – The “usual suspects”: protein + colorful plants + fermented foods
4:30 – Why animal protein matters (B12 + choline)
5:09 – Choline: the forgotten essential nutrient + the “4-yolk formula”
9:59 – Microplastics, salmon, and the 80/20 approach
12:04 – Stanford data: dietary cholesterol vs blood cholesterol
14:07 – Twin study takeaways + long-term vegan caveats (B12/choline)

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Dr. Lucia Aronica, Lucia Aronica, nutritional epigenetics, nutrigenomics, epigenome, gene expression, choline, egg yolks, cholesterol myth, Stanford study, twin study, You Are What You Eat, A4M conference, Sean Kelly Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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This one gets chaotic fast.

In this debate on Digital Social Hour, Gary and 607 Unc go head-to-head in a heated, unfiltered clash that jumps from numerology and “God code” to religion, simulation theory, masculinity, discipline, and what “real spirituality” even means.

The conversation turns into a tug-of-war over truth vs performance, faith vs self-belief, and whether you can actually help people through systems like numerology—or if it’s all just entertainment.

It’s intense, unpredictable, and weirdly revealing: two totally different worldviews colliding in real time, with moments of insight buried inside the chaos.

⏱️ Chapters

0:00 — 607 Unc’s “God code” + frequency worldview
0:40 — Gary returns and the tension starts immediately
2:10 — Status, “respect,” and the flex turning into a clash
4:20 — Identity arguments and reality vs narrative
7:30 — IQ vs awareness: what matters more?
10:00 — Reset after the ad break
12:10 — Masculinity/femininity + relationships + “spiritual” rules
21:10 — Prayer vs commanding outcomes (self-belief vs faith)
33:00 — Teaching vs entertainment: who is this really for?
52:30 — Wrap + Part 3 teased on 607 Unc’s channel

🎯 What You’ll Learn

🧠 Why “systems” (numerology, astrology, religion) pull people in
⚡ How ego derails debates even when both sides share values
🎭 The difference between being entertaining vs being useful
🗣️ How conversations spiral when respect disappears
🔥 Why polarizing personalities still win attention online

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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joins us at AmFest for a rapid-fire conversation on the biggest power fights happening right now: big tech, big pharma, censorship, data privacy, and the limits of federal authority.

Paxton explains why he believes tech platforms shape elections through algorithms, how Section 230 protects platforms while they still “curate,” and why he says states have to step in when Washington won’t. He also talks about lawsuits involving Meta and biometric data, his broader legal battles with past administrations, and why he thinks the next wave of conflict is over control of information.

We also touch on the cultural tension on campuses, the role of faith and purpose for young people, and why Paxton believes political movements often grow after major national tragedies.

🎯 What You’ll Learn

📺 How smart TVs allegedly monetize viewing behavior (and why lawsuits follow)
🧠 How algorithms can shape what people see—and what they don’t see
⚖️ Why Section 230 keeps coming up in big tech legal battles
🧬 What “biometric data” means (and why states sue over it)
🏛️ Why states vs. federal power is the core fight in many lawsuits
🎓 Why campus culture is becoming a political battleground
🗳️ How Paxton frames Texas politics heading into elections

⏱️ Chapters (timestamps)

0:00 — “You’re being watched through TV screens”
0:22 — Ken Paxton joins us at AmFest
0:52 — The message he plans to speak about
1:15 — Why young people became the mission
1:52 — “Education is misguided” (his view)
2:30 — Threats, safety, and continuing to show up
3:10 — “My job is to protect Texans”
3:38 — Lawsuits vs. Obama & Biden administrations
5:29 — “Most corrupt industry?” Big tech + big pharma
8:43 — Meta, biometrics, and the data privacy fight

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Ken Paxton, Texas Attorney General, AmFest, Turning Point, big tech, Section 230, censorship, algorithms, data privacy, biometric data, Meta lawsuit, big pharma, Pfizer, smart TV tracking, surveillance, free speech, elections, states rights, Texas politics Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com
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