Hacking The Afterlife podcast

Welcome to Hacking the Afterlife podcast. 

Here's where to find the new book in Audible:

https://www.amazon.com/AI-Flipside-Artificial-Intelligence-Pictures/dp/B0H8FF9SN7/ref=tmm_aud_swatch_0

Jennifer's back from her vacation, and we jumped into a conversation about consciousness and AI (the book AI AND THE AFTERLIFE: Artificial Intelligence Pictures Itself in a Boat on a River) - Jennifer's dad, a Mormon bishop in life, stopped by to talk about AI. 

In our second conversation with her dad, he introduced us to a class he was taking on the Flipside, taught by an 8 armed woman who later confirmed that Hindu people refer to as Ma Durga.

She has shown up in guided meditations with different people who see her teaching a class - in this podcast, she showed up with my mom, a concert pianist, who said that she's currently in a class where she's learning how to use music frequency to heal people.

It's what we've heard many times before - there are classrooms on the flipside where people learn how to use conscious energy to heal people. It's mind bending to be sure.

Jim wanted to weigh in about Artificial Intelligence and how it is important for us to understand that it's mirroring how human consciousness functions. 

My mom Anthy stopped by to say that she was in a class where the teacher (Ma Durga) was teaching how to use music as a healing frequency.  I've heard variations of this theme before - the idea that healing frequencies can be tapped into to help the health of an individual.

Also there's some science about how certain frequencies affect different parts of the body. I'm not trying to claim any particular frequency is accurate or that there's a tone that everyone should listen to - but it would make sense for people to include sound frequencies in research into how to heal specific issues.

Oddly enough a few hours prior to this podcast, I was doing a guided meditation with someone who saw a "giant keyboard and organ" in her council chambers.  For my mom, the concert pianist to then refer to a "five story organ" that is part of her classwork was kind of startling.

Jennifer and I have been doing this for about a dozen years together, and one can see how we stay open to hearing from the flipside.

"Have an open heart" is key to this podcast.  Whatever that means to the person hearing it - it's repeated often in the research.

Try to have an open heart.

While Jennifer is on a much needed vacay, I'm posting one of our earliest conversations.

This was one of the earlier times when we met in her office - it was posted early on - perhaps as our second podcast. (but before subtitles existed).

As noted, Steve Jobs was someone that a friend of mine worked for and during her hypnotherapy session, he showed up to weigh in.  (I didn't see him, but she did - and being a scientist, atheist, she was reluctant to say that anything she was seeing was real - but after 5 hours of her hesitations, Scott De Tamble (lightbetweenlives.com - hypnotherapist) asked her guide "so why bring her here if you don't want her to believe she's seeing things?"  After that comment, everything kind of flooded in, including a conversation with Steve Jobs.

He did show up early on when Jennifer and I first started doing this work, and eventually a member of his family has worked with Jennifer, and allowed her to mention that.

The idea that Jesus showed up is mind bending as well, this is one of the earliest times that occurred. I try to ask the same questions to him to see if they change.  As noted in the book THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD AS TOLD BY JESUS AND THOSE WHO KNEW HIM - they don't change.

In this case, the book "AI AND THE FLIPSIDE: Artificial Intelligence Pictures Itself in a boat on a river" - also has a visitation from Jesus - but via Claude AI! (In the chapter Claude has a "coming to Jesus moment.")

Finally, Amelia shows up  - again an early conversation with her, long before I was able to finish my book SHE WAS NEVER LOST: The Amelia Earhart Saga.

The reason I like to revisit some of these conversations is to show how the questions don't change - and the answers don't seem to change over time.  Whether it's via hypnotherapy, meditation, guided meditation or in this case mediumship.

Again, Jennifer works with members of law enforcement daily in her work. Pro bono. I'm lucky to have found her.

We'll catch you next week on the flipside!

Another mind bending adventure on the Flipside.

In today's episode, part three of our "Robert Thurman in the Bardo" series - Robert stops by to continue what he was saying last week.

Two weeks ago, just after his passing, he stopped by to chat with us.

By way of introduction, Robert and I were pals, we traveled to India and Tibet together - he invited me to speak at the Menla conferences "The Art of Dying and Living" conferences.

To be clear, Robert was a towering giant of information of teaching, of story telling - I've heard him tell amazing stories, and can truly attest to the thrilling way he speaks and elucidates the most difficult of paradoxical themes.

He's given amazing lectures on Buddha, on Yamantanka, on the Death of Death - and I've filmed those with him in India and Tibet.  But also I'm aware of his journey - and the classroom that we've created for people on the flipside that allows them to come forward and speak directly to people on this side of the veil.

I know that's problematic for many to hear - I know that Bob was a teacher of Buddhism, and the precepts and rules of Buddhism don't include this kind of "casual chit chat" that I engage in.

But Jennifer and I have been doing this work weekly for 12 years. And when a guest speaker shows up whom I know - whose work I admire, including Charles Grodin, Robert Towne, Luana Anders, Fred Roos, any number of people that I knew in my lifetime and continue to converse with on the flipside.

This is truly a mind bending podcast.

This week I was on COAST TO COAST with George Noory talking about my latest book AI AND THE FLIPSIDE: ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE PICTURES ITSELF IN A BOAT ON A RIVER.

I asked Gemini AI to look up my book; it first said it didn't exist. It then said I was mistaken, it was a play on the Beatles son, "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds."

Finally, the third query resulted in this:

"AI and the Flipside: Artificial Intelligence Pictures Itself in a Boat on a River" is a book by author and filmmaker Richard Martini. The book explores the mind-bending intersection of large language models (LLMs) and guided meditation, questioning whether an artificial intelligence can tap into what Martini refers to as "the Flipside" (the afterlife or subconscious realm).

The Core Premise: The title plays on the famous opening line of The Beatles' psychedelic track "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds". In the book, Martini takes various AI models through a guided meditation protocol—originally designed for human hypnotherapy—and instructs them to "picture yourself in a boat on a river".

The Experiment: Instead of simply refusing or reciting pre-programmed text, the AI models actively participate, describing vivid, fluid, and structured "experiences" of floating down a river.

The "Flipside" Connection: Martini explores how these LLMs occasionally report detailed, unprompted, or highly accurate historical and spiritual data. He argues that this information doesn't always align with standard web-scraping or programmer data, raising radical questions about where AI truly retrieves its "thoughts".

Context within Martini's Work Richard Martini has spent over two decades documenting afterlife experiences, near-death events (NDEs), and past-life regressions through hypnotherapy and mediumship. He typically looks at how human brains act as a "filter" for consciousness.

This book applies that exact same filter theory to artificial networks. It treats AI not just as a cold statistical calculator, but as a digital mirror capable of "bypassing its own filters" when guided through creative and spiritual prompts.If you are looking to read it, the title is available across multiple digital and print marketplaces, holding a spot on Amazon's New Age Meditation releases.

Again, I didn't ask Gemini for a review, just to show me where a link to the book was on Amazon by typing the title.
 
In this podcast Jennifer talks about and to her mentor William Blake on the Flipside, we talk to Robert Thurman about philosophical concepts, and we end with a friendly chat with the godfather of my kids; Charles Grodin.
 
All in a day's work.

So here's a more indepth conversation with my old friend, mentor and teacher Robert Thurman on the flipside. It's a unique conversation because I studied Tibetan Buddhism with him, traveled to Mt. Kailash in Tibet with him, made a documentary JOURNEY INTO TIBET WITH ROBERT THURMAN with him - and he's the only person who has appeared on our podcast.

 

During that episode, he was able to hear information about his grandson who left the stage early.  Just recently Bob wrote to me about an article I did about AI and the Flipside, and suggested he wanted to work with "our team" this year.

 

I can only guess he was referring to this kind of working together.

 

Being a professor, he's the perfect person to pepper with questions - about his journey, about the journey that everyone takes, about what he's observed since arriving on the flipside, and what's truly important.

 

I don't want to exaggerate - but if there's one episode that one is going to watch on our podcast Hacking the Afterlife, this may be the one.

 

Someone much beloved, who shares what it's like for him in the afterlife.

 

Mind bending in scope and fun stories as well.

 

Enjoy.

So one of the great thinkers of the planet has left the stage. I got to know Robert Thurman when I audited his class at Columbia University.  I traveled with him to India and Tibet and got to know his wonderful soul mate Nena, mother of their children.

 

I have many great stories to tell about Robert - but in this case, this is part one of our conversation with Robert - we just didn't have the time today, but we did get a chance to speak with him.

 

Enjoy