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It’s Not What You Think

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It’s Not What You Think
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  • It’s Not What You Think

    Dr Leila Masson: What parents must know about PANS/PANDAS

    12/07/2026 | 49 mins.
    Paediatrician Dr Leila Masson joins Penny and Angie to talk about PANS/PANDAS, a medical condition in which the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks brain cells and can lead to sudden, severe symptoms of OCD. 
    Doctors often mistake PANS/PANDAS for other conditions and it can be extremely difficult for parents to get a diagnosis for their kids. 
    Dr Masson, a medical doctor who also specialises in environmental and nutritional health discusses:
    - Why kids get PANS/PANDAS
    - what the signs and symptoms are 
    - how it is diagnosed 
    - why it can be so hard to receive a diagnosis 
    - how it can be treated 
    - how to look after your kids’ immune systems to try to avoid conditions like PANS/PANDAS 
     
    LINKS 
    Dr Masson’s online parents course for PANS/PANDAS
    Children’s Health A to Z by Dr Leila Masson
    PANDAS Network
    Family media plan
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    Jo Gray: 'Living Proof' that you can get on top of your OCD

    05/07/2026 | 51 mins.
    A few years ago, Jo’s OCD was so crippling that she needed to be hospitalised and completed two stints at The Melbourne Clinic. OCD had completely taken over her life in every way. 
    Jo joins Penny and Angie for a beautiful conversation about what she found the most helpful in her recovery and how she ended up turning her pain into a way to help so many others, through her counselling practice called Living Proof Therapy.
     
    The Melbourne Clinic OCD Program
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    Tess Murphy: B(F)RB, pulling my hair out

    28/06/2026 | 58 mins.
    Tess very generously talks to Penny and Angie about:

    when her hair pulling symptoms began

    her religious upbringing and the intense feelings of shame and perfectionism

    the various treatments she’s tried in order to stop pulling out her eyelashes

    accepting how life pans out (regardless of the condition)

    what she wishes people knew about trich

    what she'll do if her kids show signs
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    Gryff Connah: Taboo OCD and saying the quiet parts out loud

    21/06/2026 | 42 mins.
    In this episode Penny and Ange are joined by young emerging performer and theatre-maker, Gryff Connah. He talks to them about how intrusive thoughts and compulsions have woven their way throughout his life and how his dad helped him to identify what was really going on. Together they discuss:

    the early signs of OCD as a young kid

    the obsessive thoughts intensifying during lockdown when Gryff was a teenager

    the validation and relief that came with a diagnosis

    some of the more taboo themes of OCD that are so common but rarely talked about

    the play ‘Flicker’ that Gryff is involved with producing for the Melbourne fringe festival, which delves into the complex themes of OCD
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    Group Chat: Parenting with OCD

    14/06/2026 | 30 mins.
    Do you find it tough to parent whilst drowning in OCD overwhelm? Well, Penny and Ange do, so they sat down for a candid chat about it. 
    They talk about their own experiences as parents to young kids and read out anonymous comments that listeners sent in describing what parts they find the toughest. They also talk about some of the silver linings and include some practical tips for parents who might be struggling with their mental health. 

     
    Shownotes: 
    This Way Up: https://thiswayup.org.au/
    The Brain Forest https://www.dymocks.com.au/the-brain-forest-by-sandhya-menon-and-kushla-ross-9780646856094
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About It’s Not What You Think
OCD, it’s really not what you think. This is a podcast about the horrors and hilarities of living with OCD, hosted by author and mental health advocate Penny Moodie and CEO of Stand Up Events, Angie Greene.Both Penny and Angie have lived with OCD for as long as they can remember and they have had enough of the misconceptions about OCD that can cause so much damage. They want to share what it’s really like to live with OCD so that other people feel more understood and less alone. Each week they will speak to an expert or someone with lived experience to delve into the raw and often confronting reality of living with this often debilitating illness. Penny and Angie are on a mission to shine a light on something that is so often shrouded in shame so that everyone can feel less alone. So if you have OCD, or you know someone who has OCD, take a listen!INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/itsnotwhatyouthink_pod
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