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It’s Not What You Think

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It’s Not What You Think
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  • It’s Not What You Think

    Group Chat: Has the stigma around OCD actually decreased?

    26/07/2026 | 39 mins.
    For the last episode of season 3, Penny and Ange are joined by Alison Cosker. Together they discuss:

    What’s next for the podcast

    Why they decided to run an event in Melbourne and what happened when they did

    Whether they think stigma around mental illness, and OCD in particular, has lessened now that more and more people are talking about it

    Their favourite lesson or moment from this season 

    Links:
     
    Help us record another season!
  • It’s Not What You Think

    Nathan Dowling: The Bergen 4 Day Treatment (B4DT)

    19/07/2026 | 39 mins.
    There is a real buzz surrounding a treatment method originating in Norway. Clinical Psychologist and Founder of Melbourne Mindcare, Nathan Dowling joins Penny and Angie to talk about this intensive but gentle method, which is now being piloted in Australia.
    They discuss:

    What the Bergen 4 Day Treatment (B4DT) method is and how it differs from other methods of treatment

    The origins of the treatment method in Norway  

    How Nathan and others in Melbourne were trained by the Norwegian specialists

    Why Nathan and others are so excited about the promising results of the pilot program in Melbourne 

    What the four days look like 

    Some of the initial results of the program 

    What the future of the B4DT looks like in Australia 

    Melbourne Mindcare
    OCD program at Melbourne Clinic

    More info about the B4DT
  • It’s Not What You Think

    Dr Leila Masson: What parents must know about PANS/PANDAS

    12/07/2026 | 49 mins.
    Paediatrician Dr Leila Masson joins Penny and Angie to talk about PANS/PANDAS, a medical condition in which the body’s immune system mistakenly attacks brain cells and can lead to sudden, severe symptoms of OCD. 
    Doctors often mistake PANS/PANDAS for other conditions and it can be extremely difficult for parents to get a diagnosis for their kids. 
    Dr Masson, a medical doctor who also specialises in environmental and nutritional health discusses:
    - Why kids get PANS/PANDAS
    - what the signs and symptoms are 
    - how it is diagnosed 
    - why it can be so hard to receive a diagnosis 
    - how it can be treated 
    - how to look after your kids’ immune systems to try to avoid conditions like PANS/PANDAS 
     
    LINKS 
    Dr Masson’s online parents course for PANS/PANDAS
    Children’s Health A to Z by Dr Leila Masson
    PANDAS Network
    Family media plan
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    Jo Gray: 'Living Proof' that you can get on top of your OCD

    05/07/2026 | 51 mins.
    A few years ago, Jo’s OCD was so crippling that she needed to be hospitalised and completed two stints at The Melbourne Clinic. OCD had completely taken over her life in every way. 
    Jo joins Penny and Angie for a beautiful conversation about what she found the most helpful in her recovery and how she ended up turning her pain into a way to help so many others, through her counselling practice called Living Proof Therapy.
     
    The Melbourne Clinic OCD Program
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    Tess Murphy: B(F)RB, pulling my hair out

    28/06/2026 | 58 mins.
    Tess very generously talks to Penny and Angie about:

    when her hair pulling symptoms began

    her religious upbringing and the intense feelings of shame and perfectionism

    the various treatments she’s tried in order to stop pulling out her eyelashes

    accepting how life pans out (regardless of the condition)

    what she wishes people knew about trich

    what she'll do if her kids show signs
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About It’s Not What You Think
OCD, it’s really not what you think. This is a podcast about the horrors and hilarities of living with OCD, hosted by author and mental health advocate Penny Moodie and CEO of Stand Up Events, Angie Greene.Both Penny and Angie have lived with OCD for as long as they can remember and they have had enough of the misconceptions about OCD that can cause so much damage. They want to share what it’s really like to live with OCD so that other people feel more understood and less alone. Each week they will speak to an expert or someone with lived experience to delve into the raw and often confronting reality of living with this often debilitating illness. Penny and Angie are on a mission to shine a light on something that is so often shrouded in shame so that everyone can feel less alone. So if you have OCD, or you know someone who has OCD, take a listen!INSTAGRAM: instagram.com/itsnotwhatyouthink_pod
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