Neurodiversity Podcast

• Beyond Words: The Truth About Selective (Situational) Mutism

  Today, Emily Kircher-Morris and Meredith Polsky look into the complexities of selective mutism, exploring its definitions, the importance of language in understanding it, and the personal experiences that led Meredith to specialize in this area. They discuss the myths surrounding selective mutism, and its manifestation as an anxiety disorder rather than a choice or a form of shyness. Meredith shares her journey as a parent of children with selective mutism and the challenges she faced in finding appropriate treatment, ultimately leading her to become a clinician herself. They explore the challenges of diagnosis, and provide effective therapeutic techniques. This is a must-listen for adults supporting children with selective mutism. TAKEAWAYS Selective mutism is often misunderstood as a choice. Language matters in discussing selective mutism. The term 'situational mutism' is gaining popularity. Parents play a crucial role in treatment. Selective mutism is an anxiety disorder, not shyness. Pushing children to speak can increase anxiety. There is a lack of awareness among clinicians about selective mutism. Selective mutism can complicate the diagnosis of autism. Children with selective mutism may not exhibit typical anxiety responses. Effective communication strategies are crucial for children with selective mutism. Register here for a free one-hour continuing education webinar entitled The Cost of Camouflage: Exploring Masking and Burnout in Neurodivergent Clients. It’s a free service of the Neurodiversity University! Meredith Polsky, LCSW is a licensed clinical social worker specializing in Selective Mutism through her private practice, Counseling Out Loud. With a career dedicated to supporting children with diverse needs, she also serves as the Senior Director of Programs and Partnerships at Matan, Inc., an organization she co-founded in 2000 to promote inclusion in education. Meredith is the co-author of the award-winning I Have a Question children’s book series (Jessica Kingsley Publishers), which helps children—both with and without disabilities—navigate complex topics. She holds a BA in Psychology from the University of Michigan, an MA in Early Childhood Special Education from Bank Street College, an MA in Clinical Social Work from Columbia University, and a graduate certificate in Early Intervention from Georgetown University. BACKGROUND READING Counseling Out Loud, Matan, I Have a Question, LinkedIn, Selective Mutism Association

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• When Consistency is the Game Changer

  On episode 266, Emily Kircher-Morris discusses the critical role of executive functioning in education with Mitch Weathers, author of Executive Functions for Every Classroom. They explore how these skills are essential for student success, and discuss incorporating them into teaching practices, rather than treating them as an afterthought. The conversation also covers the importance of clarity, modeling, and routine in teaching these skills, and the challenges posed by the digital era. TAKEAWAYS Executive functioning is a core part of learning. Teaching executive functioning skills should be explicit and integrated into the curriculum. Clarity, modeling, and routine are essential for teaching these skills. Students need daily practice to develop executive functioning skills. The digital age may hinder the development of these skills. Organization is a transformative skill that grounds students. Self-assessment empowers students to reflect on their learning. Teachers struggling with executive dysfunction can impact their students' learning. Accountability involves collaboration between teachers, students, and families. Neurodivergent students benefit from tailored strategies and workarounds. Register here for a free one-hour continuing education webinar entitled The Cost of Camouflage: Exploring Masking and Burnout in Neurodivergent Clients. It’s a free service of the Neurodiversity University! Mitch Weathers is an educator, author, and expert in executive functioning. He is the founder and creator of Organized Binder, an evidence-based, MTSS Tier 1 universal solution designed to help students develop essential executive functioning skills such as goal setting, time management, reflective learning, and organization. His book, Executive Functions for Every Classroom, became a #1 bestseller, highlighting his structured approach to fostering academic success through clear expectations and routines. Mitch’s work emphasizes the importance of hands-on, analog strategies to build resilience and independence in students, ensuring they develop the foundational skills needed to thrive in an increasingly digital world. BACKGROUND READING LinkedIn, Facebook, X/Twitter, Instagram The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com.

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• One-Size Doesn't Fit All: Variability in Neurodivergent Brains

  Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Barbara Pape, Senior Director of the Learner Variability Project, about the concept of learner variability. The conversation touches on the importance of recognizing each student's unique strengths and challenges. They explore how educators can support neurodivergent learners through personalized instruction, they cover the role of technology in education, and talk about the need for a sense of belonging in the classroom. The discussion also touches on the barriers educators face in addressing learner variability and the evolution of educational policy to better support diverse learners. TAKEAWAYS Learner variability is the recognition that each student has unique strengths and challenges. Teaching to the middle does not effectively reach any student. Understanding learner variability allows educators to see design challenges rather than student problems. The Learner Variability Navigator is a tool for educators to understand and support diverse learners. Creating a sense of belonging is crucial for student engagement and success. Students should have agency in how their accommodations are presented to peers. Belonging in the classroom requires a whole child approach. Educational policy must evolve to provide adequate support for neurodivergent learners. Barbara Pape is the Senior Director of the Learner Variability Project at Digital Promise, where she led a national survey on learner variability, edtech, and teacher practice, authored the defining paper on learner variability, and co-developed the IEP Project, which emphasizes strength-based, whole-child approaches to writing IEPs. She also hosts a monthly edWeb webinar series and previously served as executive producer of the award-winning Teaching & Learning conference for the National Board for Professional Teaching Standards. Her background includes roles in public policy, having worked on former U.S. Senator Paul Simon’s Senate and Presidential campaign, as well as in the U.S. Senate on the Education and Labor Committee. Barbara has contributed to numerous publications and was the editor and publisher of the first electronically delivered education newsletter, The Daily Report Card. She serves on the boards of Benetech and The Riley Project and is involved in multiple education and learner variability working groups. Previously, she was an advisor for the Kennedy Center’s Intersection of the Arts and Special Education and a strategic planning committee member for Montgomery County Public Schools. She is currently pursuing a PhD at University College London, holds an EdM in reading and literacy from Harvard University’s Graduate School of Education, and began her career as a middle school language arts teacher. BACKGROUND READING Facebook, Twitter/X, LinkedIn, YouTube, The Learner Variability Project, The Learner Variability Navigator The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

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• The Double Empathy Problem in the Classroom

  On episode 264, we’re sharing our sister podcast’s conversation about the double empathy problem. In Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools, Emily Kircher-Morris and Amanda Morin explore a concept that challenges the assumption that neurodivergent individuals lack empathy, and instead highlights how misunderstandings happen between different neurotypes. They share personal stories, real-world classroom scenarios, and strategies to help educators bridge the communication gap with their neurodivergent students. TAKEAWAYS The double empathy problem—what it is and why it matters in schools. How educators can shift from assuming misbehavior to seeking understanding. The difference between cognitive empathy (perspective-taking) and affective empathy (emotional connection). Why curiosity and asking the right questions can prevent conflict and improve student-teacher relationships. Strategies for making classroom environments more emotionally safe for neurodivergent students. BACKGROUND READING The Double Empathy Problem (Damian Milton, 2012)  Neurowild by Em Hammond – Visual resources explaining neurodiversity concepts  Neurodiversity University Educator Hub: Join the Community Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported - Order here The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

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• There's Much More to OCD Than You Think

  Today, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Natalia Aíza, a therapist and advocate, to talk about the complexities of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). They debunk common myths and misconceptions, and talk about what OCD actually is. It's important to understand the OCD cycle, be able to identify the various types of OCD, and understand how it often coexists with other neurodivergent conditions like ADHD and autism. They also talk about the impact of reassurance seeking, the nuances of Just Right OCD, and the challenges of school refusal. The conversation includes insights into how parents and therapists can better support individuals with OCD, and help them on the journey towards a better life. TAKEAWAYS OCD is often misunderstood, with many believing it only relates to cleanliness. The OCD cycle involves triggers, obsessions, and compulsions that reinforce fears. Moral scrupulosity and harm OCD are common types that are often overlooked. OCD is distinct from generalized anxiety. ADHD and OCD can coexist, leading to unique challenges in diagnosis and treatment. Autism can complicate the presentation of OCD, requiring specialized understanding. Reassurance seeking can inadvertently reinforce OCD behaviors. Just Right OCD reflects a perfectionism that can manifest in various aspects of life. School refusal can be a manifestation of OCD, leading to avoidance patterns. Episode featuring Eli Lebowitz Check out our Neurodiversity University courses, including Strategies for Supporting Twice-Exceptional Students. This episode was edited to add clarity to the subject of school avoidance or refusal, to indicate they aren’t exclusive to OCD. For some neurodivergent kids, it is a matter of a lack of accommodations and supports that make educational settings traumatic environments. School avoidance or refusal is a nuanced subject, and a deeper dive is planned for an episode in the near future. Natalia Aíza, LPC, is a therapist, parent trainer, and advocate dedicated to increasing awareness and improving treatment for individuals with OCD. She co-founded Kairos Wellness Collective, a therapy center specializing in OCD and Anxiety Disorders, where she works to enhance competency among mental health practitioners and support individuals on their healing journey. In addition to her clinical work, Natalia provides free psychoeducation and advocacy through her Instagram platform, @letstalk.ocd, helping to destigmatize OCD and promote evidence-based treatment. She earned her BA in Literature from Harvard University and an MA in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Palo Alto University. BACKGROUND READING Instagram Kairos Wellness Collective The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

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