Neurodiversity Podcast

• Navigating the Emotional Landscape

  Today Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Leah Kuypers, developer of the Zones of Regulation framework, to discuss self-regulation skills. They talk about the importance of emotional awareness, the practical applications of the framework in educational settings, and how it provides a common language for expressing feelings. Leah shares insights from her experience as an occupational therapist and educator, including the impact of the framework on students' ability to communicate their emotions and navigate their environments effectively. They discuss the need to move away from labeling emotions as good or bad, and explore practical strategies for implementing self-regulation tools in educational settings. TAKEAWAYS Self-regulation challenges significantly impact students' well-being and success. The Zones of Regulation framework provides a common language for expressing feelings. All zones are valid; there are no good or bad zones. Visual supports can help neurodivergent students communicate their feelings. The framework is designed to foster emotional intelligence and self-awareness. Teaching self-regulation skills can reduce reliance on punitive measures. The framework can be adapted for various age groups and needs. Emotional intelligence can be difficult to articulate, even for older students. Co-regulation with adults can help children identify and manage their emotions. Understanding the neurobiological aspects of regulation can inform better support strategies. Check out the Strategies for Supporting Twice-Exceptional Students course, and all of the others available now in the Neurodiversity University. Leah Kuypers, MA Ed., OTR/L, is an occupational therapist, autism resource specialist, and educator, dedicated to helping individuals develop self-regulation skills. While working in public schools, she recognized the profound impact that regulation difficulties had on learners’ overall well-being and daily functioning. This led her to develop The Zones of Regulation, a systematic and practical framework designed to foster emotional and sensory regulation. Since its initial publication in 2011, The Zones of Regulation has sold over 300,000 copies worldwide and has been widely adopted in educational and therapeutic settings. In 2024, Leah launched The Zones of Regulation Digital Curriculum, which has already been implemented in 40 countries. Her team trains more than 8,000 educators and practitioners annually around the globe, equipping them with tools to support learners in developing essential self-regulation skills. BACKGROUND READING Zones of Regulation Facebook Instagram YouTube The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group. For more information go to www.NeurodiversityPodcast.com

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• Gestalt Language Processing

  Today Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Gestalt language processing expert Ali Battye about the nuts and bolts of Gestalt, and why it's useful and important in understanding and supporting neurodivergent communicators. They talk about the barriers faced by Gestalt language processors, the role of augmentative and alternative communication (AAC), and the need for a strengths-based approach in communication. There are some common misconceptions about Gestalt language processing, and they explain and dispel them in this conversation. TAKEAWAYS Echolalia has become a helpful part of the learning process in Gestalt. Understanding the child's intent is crucial for effective communication. AAC can support children who struggle with verbal communication. Communication should be viewed as a connection-based approach. Misinformation about Gestalt language processing is prevalent. Real-life communication is complex and multimodal. Valuing a child's unique communication style fosters growth. Research on language acquisition should include lived experiences. Be notified when the Therapist Hub opens for new members. It's a great opportunity to transform your practice into a more neurodiversity-affirming place, using tools and methods that benefit all clients. It's also a great resource for accredited CE! Ali Battye is a highly experienced speech and language therapist with 25 years of practice in the UK and Australia. She specializes in neurodiversity-affirming therapy for autistic and neurodivergent children, with a focus on supporting Gestalt Language Processing (GLP) through Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AAC). Ali is also an accomplished author, having written books on AAC and, most recently, on GLP, advocating for joyful therapy that prioritizes genuine connection. Ali’s expertise is rooted in her extensive clinical experience and commitment to creating inclusive, supportive therapeutic practices that empower neurodivergent individuals. BACKGROUND READING Instagram Ali Battye’s book

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• The Barrier-Breaking Evolution of Whole Body Regulation

  Today we're discussing the concept of whole body listening, and its evolution to whole body regulation. Elizabeth Sautter joins Emily Kircher-Morris to talk about that evolution, and what it means to neurodivergent people and those who support them. They discuss emotional regulation and co-regulation, the role of educators and parents in modeling emotional awareness, and the impact of shame on neurodivergent learners. Also, the complexities of vulnerability, and the significant difference between calling someone out, and calling them in. TAKEAWAYS The shift from whole body listening to whole body regulation is crucial. Co-regulation is foundational for emotional regulation. Adults must model emotional awareness for children. Understanding individual needs is key to effective learning. Shame can hinder the learning process for neurodivergent kids. Brene Brown's work highlights the importance of discussing vulnerability and shame. Calling in promotes understanding and change more effectively than calling out. The stages of grief can be applied to the process of unlearning harmful practices. Self-reflection is essential for educators and parents to shift their approaches. Be notified when the Therapist Hub opens for new members. It's a great opportunity to transform your practice into a more neurodiversity-affirming place, using tools and methods that benefit all clients. It's also a great resource for accredited CE! Listen to Emily's other podcast, Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools, co-hosted by Amanda Morin. Elizabeth A. Sautter, MA, CCC, is a speech-language pathologist, speaker, author, and trainer, with expertise in social communication, emotional regulation, and executive functioning. She is the author of Make Social and Emotional Learning Stick! Practical activities to help your child manage emotions, navigate social situations & reduce anxiety, along with many other resources, including an online course and community for parents. Elizabeth collaborates with the Zones of Regulation team as a trainer and is a coauthor of the Zones children’s books, card decks, and games. BACKGROUND READING Elizabeth Sautter’s website Instagram Facebook

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• Dyscalculia & Math: A Teacher's and Parent's Guide

  On this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris and Dr. Daniel Ansari discuss the complexities of math education, including the anxiety it can cause in students, the challenges of teaching methods, and the importance of understanding learning difficulties like dyscalculia. They talk about the importance of explicit instruction in math, the role of neuroscience in understanding how children learn math, and the significance of working memory and attention in math learning. Educators and parents will also get suggestions for practical strategies that will help them support students struggling with math. TAKEAWAYS Math anxiety affects both children and adults. Explicit instruction is crucial for teaching math. Dyscalculia is often misunderstood and underrecognized. Teaching methods should align with children's developmental levels. Neuroscience reveals links between spatial and numerical processing. Math anxiety does not equate to a lack of ability. Timed practice should be engaging, not competitive. Working memory plays a significant role in math learning. Multisensory approaches can enhance math instruction. Parents should seek community and resources for support. Assisting Students Struggling with Mathematics from the Institute of Education Sciences The Think Inclusive Podcast episode Emily talked about - Saving ED: Why the U.S. Department of Education is Essential for Students with Disabilities This episode is sponsored by The Council for Exceptional Children, getting ready for their Convention & Expo in Baltimore, March 12-15th. Go to cecconvention.org to register! Dr. Daniel Ansari is a Professor and Canada Research Chair in Developmental Cognitive Neuroscience & Learning at Western University. He leads the Numerical Cognition Laboratory, where his research focuses on how children develop numerical and mathematical skills, as well as the cognitive factors contributing to difficulties in learning mathematics. Dr. Ansari and his team are dedicated to bridging the Science of Learning with K-12 education, working to translate research findings into classroom practice. He has authored over 150 peer-reviewed research articles and is a Fellow of the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research (CIFAR), recognized for his contributions to the field of developmental cognitive neuroscience. BACKGROUND READING The Numerical Cognition Laboratory The Neurodiversity Podcast is available on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you can also join our private Facebook group.

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• What it Takes to Connect With Today's Students

  Effective teaching involves more than just what happens formally in the classroom, and on this episode, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes educator and author Adam Meyersieck to talk about it. They discuss the need for engaging teaching methods that connect with students emotionally and socially. They discuss collaboration between parents and educators to support neurodivergent learners, and the significance of strengths-based approaches in teaching. They cover sustainability of the teaching profession, the use of multiple communication modalities, and managing visual clutter to enhance learning environments. TAKEAWAYS Teaching should focus on the process, not just the end result. Collaboration between parents and educators enhances student support. Strengths-based assessments can bridge the gap between home and school. Visual aids can clarify expectations for neurodiverse students. Processing time is crucial for student understanding. Simplicity in instructions aids neurodivergent learners. Sustainable teaching practices lead to better educator retention. Explicit instruction benefits all learners, not just neurodivergent ones. Engaging multiple modalities helps all students retain information better. Providing written instructions fosters independence in learners. Managing visual clutter reduces distractions and enhances focus. Get the newsletter and keep up-to-date about the Emily and Amanda's new book, Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported, and the new podcast, Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools. This episode is sponsored by The Council for Exceptional Children, getting ready for their Convention & Expo in Baltimore, March 12-15th. Go to cecconvention.org to register! Adam Meyersieck is a school district leader, consultant at Legacy Education Group, and educator with nearly two decades of experience in special and inclusive education, professional learning, and neurodiversity teaching strategy. He has trained thousands of educators and school leaders in the US and Great Britain, helping them create inclusive, strength-based learning environments that truly support neurodiverse students. He is also the author of Universal Best Practices for All Learners: Discover Your Teaching Strengths, a book designed to help educators leverage their strengths and make teaching more sustainable while meeting the needs of all learners. Adam is passionate about helping school leaders and teachers better connect with their students, ensuring that education is both effective and equitable. BACKGROUND READING Adam’s website Facebook LinkedIn The Neurodiversity Podcast is on Facebook, Instagram, BlueSky, and you’re invited to join our Facebook Group.

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