Strength in Numbers

Strength in Numbers continues its conversation from the National Security Data and Policy Institute’s (NSDPI) annual conference by analyzing how the United States’ and China’s distinct industrial policies are shaping the AI arms race. How are the decision-making and regulatory styles of these two countries shaping this technological competition?

Host Jennifer Strong was joined on stage by panelists Philip Potter, Neil Wiley, and Lukas Filler. Potter is NSDPI’s executive director, Wiley is a former U.S. intelligence officer, and Filler is an NSDPI senior fellow and China analyst.

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The Chinese Communist Party’s Layered Artificial Intelligence Strategy


Artificial Intelligence Knowledge Supply Chain — National Security Data and Policy Institute


Breaking Defense Interviews Dr. Potter on the Future of AI Competition — National Security Data and Policy Institute

Strength in Numbers was recently recorded live at the annual conference of the National Security Data and Policy Institute (NSDPI). The conference hosted discussions on several of the topics we’ve covered this season—critical minerals, supply chains, the AI arms race with China—and we wanted to bring a flavor of those conversations directly to you.

Host Jennifer Strong was joined on stage by panelists Philip Potter, Neil Wiley, and Lukas Filler. Potter is NSDPI’s executive director, Wiley is a former U.S. intelligence officer, and Filler is an NSDPI senior fellow and China analyst.

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China’s AI/ML Data Environment

The Social Foundations of China’s Artificial Intelligence Policies

Is the United States in an artificial intelligence arms race with China? How are policymakers assessing possible economic and national security threats? How should China be understood as a potential peer competitor? And who’s likely to win?

China experts Dean Cheng and Lukas Filler join Strength in Numbers to discuss. Cheng is formerly of the Heritage Foundation and the author of Cyber Dragon: Inside China’s Information Warfare and Cyber Operations. And Filler is a national security strategist at the National Security Data and Policy Institute.

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Deeper Questions Raised by DeepSeek

DeepSeek’s Achievements and the Implications for Policy

China’s AI/ML Data Environment

Much has been said about the United States and China’s approach to artificial intelligence, but another key player in the AI race is Europe. How are its regulators, political leaders, and industry approaching this new technology? Gabriele Mazzini, the lead architect on the EU’s landmark AI Act , joins host Jennifer Strong to discuss how this landmark legislation was brought into being—and what could now change.

The episode also features University of Virginia School of Law’s Vice Dean Ashley Deeks to discuss how AI and emerging technologies are being used for defense and what guardrails should be in place.

Additional reading:

Artificial Intelligence Knowledge Supply Chain

Tracking Advances in Multimodal AI for Time Series Analysis

DeepSeek’s Achievements and the Implications for Policy

​​How are policymakers assessing future security challenges and what is being done to mitigate those threats? George Foresman, a senior advisor at the National Security Data and Policy Institute (NSDPI), shares his experience as the first undersecretary of preparedness at the U.S. Department of Homeland Security with host Jennifer Strong.

Former Deputy National Security Advisor Anne Neuberger also joins the series to recount how the U.S. government responded to the most ambitious cybercrime to date: Salt Typhoon.

Finally, NSDPI’s research associate Nathan Timbs shares how open-source data is helping to track illicit networks and bring them into the open. 

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