The 4th Wave in Therapy

• Dr Tomas Frymann

  Dr Tomas Frymann In this enlightening conversation, Peta Stapleton speaks with Dr Tomas Frymann, founder of As We Wake, about the transformative potential of psychedelic therapy. They explore Tomas's personal journey with psychedelics, the profound experiences of oneness, and the scientific underpinnings of how psychedelics can aid in mental health treatment, particularly for PTSD. The discussion emphasizes the importance of integration after psychedelic experiences and the future of psychedelics in mental health care. Dr. Tomas Frymann is the founder of As We Wake, an organization dedicated to connecting culture to Interbeing through psychedelics. He completed his Ph.D. in the Spirituality and Psychology Lab at Columbia University, is an initiate of the Bwiti tradition, and has facilitated and experienced 100’s of psychedelic ceremonies worldwide with psilocybin, ayahuasca, iboga, and 5-MeO-DMT. In his many years of psychotherapy experience he has worked with veterans, cancer patients, university students, and ICU patients. Dr. Frymann authored the first empirical measurements of Psychedelic Integration and Interbeing Identity, which have been translated into multiple languages and adopted by psychedelic facilitation centers globally. He has presented his work at major forums including the United Nations and Harvard University, and is featured on the following podcasts: Universe Within, 10 Laws Podcast, Psychedelic medicine Podcast, End of the Road Podcast. Dr. Frymann is also a former professional skimboarder and general ocean sports aficionado. Website: www.aswewake.com Instagram: @aswewake Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-tomas-frymann

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• Kerry Neilson

  Kerry Neilson In this episode, Dr. Peta Stapleton reconnects with Kerry Neilson, a quantum empowerment and transformation coach. They explore the cultural misconceptions surrounding change, the significance of personal awakening, and the interplay between science and spirituality in the transformation process. Kerry shares her profound journey of recovery from alcoholism, emphasising the importance of surrender, self-compassion, and identity change. The conversation culminates in an introduction to Kerry's course, 'Wired for Wonder,' which aims to guide individuals through their own transformation journeys. Kerry Neilson (M.Ed Studies in Guidance & Counselling, Dip. Gestalt Therapy) is a Gestalt therapist, writer, and former high school guidance counsellor and educator. With over 25 years’ experience, she specialises in helping people move through major life transitions. She is the author of the upcoming book Whole, Not Wholesome: How to Fall Apart, Wake the Hell Up and Let Your Pieces Become Power. Kerry also offers courses and webinars on spirituality, resilience, crisis, and personal transformation. Learn more at https://www.kerryneilson.com.au/ Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/kerry-neilson

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• Dr Larry Burk

  Dr Larry Burk In this episode of the Fourth Wave in Therapy podcast, Dr. Peta Stapleton interviews Dr. Larry Burk, a holistic musculoskeletal radiologist, about the mind-body connection, particularly focusing on frozen shoulder and the emotions associated with it. They discuss Larry's personal journey into holistic healing, the role of emotions like anger and grief in physical ailments, and various healing modalities including EFT and expressive writing. The conversation also touches on the medical field's evolving perspective on mind-body healing and the significance of dreams in understanding our emotional health. Larry Burk, MD, CEHP, is a retired holistic musculoskeletal radiologist who now works as an online health coach and Certified Energy Health Practitioner. He trained in hypnosis in 1990. Dr. Burk did his medical school and radiology residency training at the University of Pittsburgh and a fellowship at the University of Pennsylvania. He was an associate professor of radiology and head of the musculoskeletal section at Duke University. He was co-founder and education director of Duke Integrative Medicine and took the UCLA Acupuncture for Physicians course in 1998. Larry learned Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT) in 2002 and has taught tapping at Duke Integrative Medicine since 2016. His EFT mentors are Carol Look and Margaret Lynch Raniere. He facilitates the monthly Dream Study Group for the Rhine Research Center on Zoom. He has published three books, Let Magic Happen: Adventures in Healing with a Holistic Radiologist in 2012, Dreams That Can Save Your Life: Early Warning Signs of Cancer and Other Diseases in 2018, Frozen Shoulder Healing: Diagnostic Methods and Treatment Options in 2025. Details about his coaching practice, newsletters, blogs, and videos can be found on his website. Website: https://letmagichappen.com/. Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-larry-burk

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• Gavin Abeyratne

  Gavin Abeyratne In this episode of the Fourth Wave in Therapy podcast, Dr. Peta Stapleton interviews Gavin Abeyratne, exploring the intersection of leadership, personal development, and innovative therapeutic practices. They discuss the emergence of the fourth wave in therapy, the impact of limiting beliefs on leadership, and the importance of understanding the six forces of change that affect personal and professional growth. Gavin shares insights on the role of psychedelic-assisted therapy, the concept of integral alchemy, and practical tools for self-discovery, emphasizing the relational nature of self and the importance of community in personal development. In this engaging conversation, Gavin Abeyratne and Dr. Peta Stapleton explore themes of personal growth, visualization, and emotional balance through guided meditation techniques. They discuss the importance of social influences, the process of visualizing future successes, and the dynamics of energy flow within the body. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of acknowledging both positive and negative feelings, embracing possibilities, and trusting the timing of life transitions. The session culminates in reflections on the experience and insights gained, along with resources for further exploration. Gavin Abeyratne is an autodidactic polymath that likes big words and even bigger visions. When he's not writing about himself in the 3rd person, he's studying consciousness or spending time with his wife, two lovely daughters and cat in Melbourne, Australia. My vision is to call in the best and brightest, and synergise our collective capability to catalyse an elevation in consciousness... no big deal. Website: https://www.integralalchemy.com.au/ Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/gavin-abeyratne

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• Dr Carol Look

  Dr Carol Look In this engaging conversation, Dr. Carol Look, a founding EFT master, shares her journey from traditional psychotherapy to energy psychology, emphasising the transformative power of EFT tapping and gratitude. The discussion explores the concepts of healing, anxiety, resistance, and family patterns, while highlighting the importance of finding one's own 'yes' and the scientific benefits of gratitude practices. Carol's insights provide valuable tools for therapists and clients alike, showcasing how tapping can facilitate emotional healing and personal growth. Dr Carol Look is a psychotherapist, Founding EFT Master, international speaker, and best-selling author of 2 books: The Yes Code: Transforming Sabotage into Success. and Yes, Thank You: Tapping Into the Superpower of Gratitude. Carol combines her traditional training as a psychotherapist with clinical hypnosis and advanced applications of EFT Tapping for unprecedented results with her clients. Known for her laser-like focus and state-of-the-art approach, Carol has used EFT Tapping for over 25 years to help clients release their limiting beliefs and emotional conflicts so they can enjoy lives of exceptional success and fulfilment. Carol is a world-renowned EFT workshop presenter and has taught workshops in England, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, Ireland, Canada, Australia, and all over the United States. She is a regularly featured energy medicine expert on leading global tele-summits, and is featured as a top expert in the field’s leading documentaries. For more on Carol’s programs, visit www.CarolLook.com. Websites: www.carollook.com www.theyescode.com https://www.carollook.com/blog/ https://www.carollook.com/abundance-store/ Show notes and transcripts are on the podcast page here: https://www.evidencebasedeft.com/dr-carol-look

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