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CD181: FRANCIS POULIOT - BULL BITCOIN SELF CUSTODY BULL WALLET
Francis is the Founder of Bull Bitcoin, one of the best bitcoin brokerage services. They recently launched a self custody mobile wallet on ios and android: Bull Wallet. This rip was earlier today, in person, in Lugano. We are both here for the PlanB Forum.Francis on Nostr: https://primal.net/francisFrancis on X: https://x.com/francispouliot_Bull Wallet: https://wallet.bullbitcoin.comPlanB Forum: https://planb.lugano.ch/planb-forum/EPISODE: 181BLOCK: 920238PRICE: 929 sats per dollar(00:00:00) Catching up from Lugano: old rips, 2019 memories, and lore(00:01:07) Introducing Bull Wallet: goals, BDK under the hood, and UX vision(00:02:21) Lightning lessons: LDK attempts, liquidity pain, and Phoenix tradeoffs(00:04:38) Fee shocks and “just-in-time” channels: why Liquid entered the plan(00:06:24) Liquid + Boltz atomic swaps: architecture, Rootstock notes, and standards push(00:07:37) Designing for privacy and power users: Sparrow on mobile, Payjoin journey(00:12:21) Data minimization in practice: no push, no cloud leaks, strict dependencies(00:13:56) Shipping realities: iOS approval grind and cross‑platform necessity(00:15:11) Secure versus Instant: Liquid framing, hype cycles, and collaborative custody(00:19:13) The UX–compromise matrix: placing Liquid among trust models(00:21:24) Auto‑swap safety rails: keeping Liquid balances modest by default(00:24:26) Confidential transactions and buying flows: privacy wins via Liquid(00:27:24) Swap providers and resilience: Boltz today, multi‑provider tomorrow(00:31:05) Builders who ship: moving fast, potentially Ark or Spark in the future(00:32:11) Why Ark: unilateral exits, pre‑confirmed states, and costs(00:50:00) Ark tradeoffs without soft forks: watchtowers, refresh, and liveness(00:57:15) Ark vs Liquid in Bull Wallet: timelines, reckless testing, and user defaults(01:04:12) Payjoin, heuristics, and passive consolidation(01:11:01) Consolidation strategies: Liquid swaps, CT, and fee‑aware UTXO management(01:15:48) Lightning address UX with Liquid: directories, costs, and tiny payments(01:17:10) Nostr as a wallet backend: zaps, contact book, and secure comms(01:18:01) Multisig in practice: BitPay’s UX, Miniscript future, and mobile approvals(01:20:19) Operator messaging and alerts: following npubs inside the app(01:20:49) Core v30, OP_RETURN, and policy vs consensus(01:31:09) Funding open source: OpenSats, private companies, and shipping culture(01:35:15) Why open source keeps us sane: creativity, legacy, and closing notesmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
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IMAGINE IF: MAKE FREEDOM PROFITABLE KEYNOTE
My keynote presentation at the Imagine If conference in Nashville focused on how i think about scaling freedom tech.Date: September 20, 2025OpenSats: https://opensats.orgTen31: https://ten31.xyzImagine If: https://bitcoinpark.com/imagineif(01:02) ODELL takes the stage(01:23) Diagnosing the problem(02:35) Ad driven surveillance and addictive platforms(03:04) Open source and open protocols(03:49) Scaling open source: incentives and funding(04:26) OpenSats and Bitcoin powered grants(05:25) Email, an open protocol, and Gmails predatory model(06:42) Make freedom profitable: align incentives(06:54) Ten31 thesis: sustainable, user-aligned businesses(07:28) Case study: Start9 and self-hosted services(08:16) Case study: Maples private AI and open API(08:51) Case study: Primal on Nostr and Bitcoin(09:37) Case study: Strike and low switching costs(10:25) Closing call to action: profit drives scalabilityVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqs8g25llcvddu2cacsglckxks2afya2c27pt6g3qf3rh5rma3eachsg5mu8s more info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
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CUSTODY AND TREASURY SUMMIT: ADAM BACK
A conversation with Adam Back at Bitcoin Park's Custody and Treasury Summit in Nashville, TN. We discuss the current state of bitcoin custody and how it applies to individuals, small businesses, and public companies.Date: September 18, 2025Adam on Nostr: https://primal.net/adamback Adam on X: https://x.com/adam3us Bitcoin Park on Nostr: https://primal.net/parkBitcoin Park: https://bitcoinpark.com/ (00:00) Teaser(01:07) Not your keys, not your coins(01:49) Why self custody matters: seizure and asset protection(03:06) Early Bitcoin legal fears and Obama’s Swiss bank quote(03:54) Individuals adopt self custody; shift to business treasuries(04:22) Custody advice for small businesses and dentists(05:34) Multisig basics, redundancy, and vendor diversity(06:45) Single sig vs multi sig usability and learning curve(07:32) Practical setups: single sig cold storage and backups(08:24) Keeping multiple backups(09:06) Fireproof steel backups and moving to treasury topics(09:30) Public companies using custodians: risks and drivers(10:48) Collaborative custody among custodians and decaying multisig(12:10) Balancing third party risk vs operational self custody risk(12:43) Finality, time locks, and covenant based safety nets(13:59) Why multisig is essential for large organizations(14:56) Industry pushback and the case for proof of reserves(16:20) Adoption of proof of reserves and hybrid treasury strategies(16:51) Closing and audience Q&A introVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsxtltftjfavnlg8ysjvnn9504l40ykq8hdw25pcmaljwdx0xp9wyswev5e3 more info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
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CD180: MILJAN - PRIMAL
Miljan is the Founder and CEO of Primal. Bitcoin is an open protocol for money, nostr is an open protocol for speech, Primal brings the power of both into an easy to use interface for everyone.Search Primal in your favorite app store!Miljan on Nostr: https://primal.net/miljanEPISODE: 180BLOCK: 917284PRICE: 842 sats per dollar(00:00) Ten31 retreat(01:02) Retreat impressions and collaboration(01:32) How many bitcoiners(03:01) Estimating self custody users and real audience sizes(05:09) Stalled growth and focusing Primal on Bitcoiners(06:07) Curated "Getting Started" invite packs(09:14) Solving empty feeds: recommendations vs. decentralization(12:02) Improving follow discovery(14:53) Retention over onboarding: first-touch UX matters(16:11) Empowering users with tools, not surveillance models(18:08) Aligning incentives: Primal’s user-paid model(19:42) Live streaming on Nostr: open spec meets clean UI(22:20) Not competing with TikTok: high-signal over dopamine(25:06) Platform risk for streamers and Nostr’s modular freedom(28:05) Unified chat, zaps, and the magic of interoperable apps(29:25) Nostr’s organic growth(31:06) Creators’ final destination(34:50) AI in social: open models, features, and roadmap thoughts(41:05) Deepfakes, authenticity, and signed content value(46:02) Keys, key-rotation, and building resilient identity tools(49:28) Practical key management: tradeoffs from phone to multisig(53:12) Closing thoughtsmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
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CD179: SETH FOR PRIVACY QUARTERLY UPDATE
Seth is VP of Cake Wallet, a self custody bitcoin wallet available on ios, android, and desktop. We discuss their new offline companion app, Cupcake, and variety of other privacy related topics.Seth on Nostr: https://primal.net/sethforprivacySeth on X: https://x.com/sethforprivacyCake Wallet: https://cakewallet.com/EPISODE: 179BLOCK: 916494PRICE: 909 sats per dollar(00:00:01) UK Digital ID Dystopia(00:01:02) Happy Bitcoin Friday(00:03:01) Samourai arrests fallout and Ashigaru vs Wasabi vs JoinMarket(00:06:49) Coordinator trust, liquidity, and taint/frozen funds(00:12:10) Cake Wallet updates and unveiling Cupcake signer(00:15:36) How Cupcake works: air-gapped signer, BCUR/BBQR, threat models(00:19:01) Travel, opsec, and device choices for Cupcake(00:21:30) Cupcake’s scope vs hardware wallets(00:25:21) Multisig discussions, open standards, and future features(00:29:43) Single sig and practical custody advice(00:30:29) Recent Monero Attack(00:36:21) ASIC resistance debate and Monero reorg analysis(00:41:02) Wild idea: switch Monero to Litecoin’s Scrypt ASICs(00:43:19) Lightning in Cake Wallet: evaluating Ark vs Spark(00:49:37) Spark’s pragmatism, privacy concerns, and operators(00:56:40) Strike/Primal, Cashu, and custodial vs self-custodial tradeoffs(00:58:56) Hands-on with Spark in Wallet of Satoshi beta(01:05:02) Bitcoin privacy outlook: Silent Payments, PayJoin, Lightning(01:06:14) Silent Payments UX: Frigate server model and performance(01:09:17) Run your own node for privacy and practical setups(01:09:51) Closing reflections: builders vs discourse, optimismVideo: https://primal.net/e/nevent1qqsqmytsgrtq3s8zeqt6cgfsw4vlemyfrz5z02ylhkp7tm08ztuc2ysryw55xmore info on the show: https://citadeldispatch.comlearn more about me: https://odell.xyz
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