"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis

• OpenAI's Identity Crisis: History, Culture & Non-Profit Control with ex-employee Steven Adler

  In this episode, former OpenAI research scientist Steven Adler discusses his insights on OpenAI's transition through various phases, including its growth, internal culture shifts, and the contentious move from nonprofit to for-profit. The conversation delves into the initial days of OpenAI's development of GPT-3 and GPT-4, the cultural and ethical disagreements within the organization, and the recent amicus brief addressing the Elon versus OpenAI lawsuit. Steven Adler also explores the broader implications of AI capabilities, safety evaluations, and the critical need for transparent and responsible AI governance. The episode provides a candid look at the internal dynamics of a leading AI company and offers perspectives on the responsibilities and challenges faced by AI researchers and developers today. Amicus brief to the Elon Musk versus OpenAI lawsuit: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.433688/gov.uscourts.cand.433688.152.0.pdf Steven Adler's post on 'X' about Personhood credentials (a paper co-authored by him) : https://x.com/sjgadler/status/1824245211322568903 Steven Adler's substack post on "minimum testing period" for frontier AI : https://substack.com/@sjadler/p-161143327?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 Steven Adler's substack post on TSFT Model Testing: https://substack.com/@sjadler/p-159883282?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 Steven Adler's Substack: https://stevenadler.substack.com/ Upcoming Major AI Events Featuring Nathan Labenz as a Keynote Speaker https://www.imagineai.live/ https://adapta.org/adapta-summit https://itrevolution.com/product/enterprise-tech-leadership-summit-las-vegas/ PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing CHAPTERS: (00:00) About the Episode (05:15) Joining OpenAI: Early Days and Cultural Insights (06:41) The Anthropic Split and Its Impact (11:32) Product Safety and Content Policies at OpenAI (Part 1) (19:21) Sponsors: ElevenLabs | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) (21:48) Product Safety and Content Policies at OpenAI (Part 2) (22:08) The Launch and Impact of GPT-4 (32:15) Evaluating AI Models: Challenges and Best Practices (Part 1) (33:46) Sponsors: Shopify | NetSuite (37:10) Evaluating AI Models: Challenges and Best Practices (Part 2) (55:58) AGI Readiness and Personhood Credentials (01:05:03) Biometrics and Internet Friction (01:06:52) Credential Security and Recovery (01:08:05) Trust and Ecosystem Diversity (01:09:40) AI Agents and Verification Challenges (01:14:28) OpenAI's Evolution and Ambitions (01:22:07) Safety and Regulation in AI Development (01:35:53) Internal Dynamics and Cultural Shifts (01:58:18) Concluding Thoughts on AI Governance (02:02:29) Outro

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• AI Control: Using Untrusted Systems Safely with Buck Shlegeris of Redwood Research, from the 80,000 Hours Podcast

  In this episode, we share a fascinating conversation from the 80,000 Hours Podcast between Rob Wiblin and Buck Shlegeris, CEO of Redwood Research. Buck dives deep into the emerging field of AI Control strategies for safely working with powerful AIs even if they’re not fully aligned. They explore innovative techniques like always-on auditing, honeypotting, re-sampling, and factored cognition to monitor and manage AI behaviors. This discussion highlights both the promise and challenges of controlling increasingly autonomous AI systems in today’s fast-evolving landscape. Tune in for a thoughtful, first-principles look at how we might secure useful outcomes from AIs we can’t fully trust. Original source: https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/buck-shlegeris-ai-control-scheming/ Upcoming Major AI Events Featuring Nathan Labenz as a Keynote Speaker https://www.imagineai.live/ https://adapta.org/adapta-summit https://itrevolution.com/product/enterprise-tech-leadership-summit-las-vegas/ SPONSORS: ElevenLabs: ElevenLabs gives your app a natural voice. Pick from 5,000+ voices in 31 languages, or clone your own, and launch lifelike agents for support, scheduling, learning, and games. Full server and client SDKs, dynamic tools, and monitoring keep you in control. Start free at https://elevenlabs.io/cognitive-revolution Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle Cloud Infrastructure offers next-generation cloud solutions that cut costs and boost performance. With OCI, you can run AI projects and applications faster and more securely for less. New U.S. customers can save 50% on compute, 70% on storage, and 80% on networking by switching to OCI before May 31, 2024. See if you qualify at https://oracle.com/cognitive Shopify: Shopify powers millions of businesses worldwide, handling 10% of U.S. e-commerce. With hundreds of templates, AI tools for product descriptions, and seamless marketing campaign creation, it's like having a design studio and marketing team in one. Start your $1/month trial today at https://shopify.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.ai Twitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcast Twitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenz LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/ Youtube: https://youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcast Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk

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• Blueprint for AI Armageddon: Josh Clymer Imagines AI Takeover, from the Audio Tokens Podcast

  In this episode of the Cognitive Revolution, an AI-narrated version of Joshua Clymer's story on how AI might take over in two years is presented. The episode is based on Josh's appearance on the Audio Tokens podcast with Lukas Peterson. Joshua Clymer, a technical AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, shares a fictional yet plausible AI scenario grounded in current industry realities and trends. The story highlights potential misalignment risks, competitive pressures among AI labs, and the importance of government regulation and safety measures. After the story, Josh and Lukas discuss these topics further, including Josh's personal decision to purchase a bio shelter for his family. The episode is powered by ElevenLabs' AI voice technology. SPONSORS: ElevenLabs: ElevenLabs gives your app a natural voice. Pick from 5,000+ voices in 31 languages, or clone your own, and launch lifelike agents for support, scheduling, learning, and games. Full server and client SDKs, dynamic tools, and monitoring keep you in control. Start free at https://elevenlabs.io/cognitive-revolution Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle Cloud Infrastructure offers next-generation cloud solutions that cut costs and boost performance. With OCI, you can run AI projects and applications faster and more securely for less. New U.S. customers can save 50% on compute, 70% on storage, and 80% on networking by switching to OCI before May 31, 2024. See if you qualify at https://oracle.com/cognitive Shopify: Shopify powers millions of businesses worldwide, handling 10% of U.S. e-commerce. With hundreds of templates, AI tools for product descriptions, and seamless marketing campaign creation, it's like having a design studio and marketing team in one. Start your $1/month trial today at https://shopify.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing CHAPTERS: (00:00) About the Episode (04:31) Interview start between Josh and Lucas (11:00) Start of AI story (Part 1) (24:37) Sponsors: ElevenLabs | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) (27:05) Start of AI story (Part 2) (Part 1) (40:50) Sponsors: Shopify | NetSuite (44:15) Start of AI story (Part 2) (Part 2) (01:20:09) End of AI story (02:01:20) Outro

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• Fiverr Goes All-In on AI: Empowering Creators, Not Replacing Them, with Micha Kaufman, CEO of Fiverr

  In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Micha Kaufman, founder and CEO of Fiverr, about the company's new AI suite called Fiverr Go. Kaufman shares his unique values-based approach to AI implementation, which aims to empower human creators rather than replace them in the freelance marketplace. The conversation explores how Fiverr is attempting to build an AI-human hybrid model that maintains the incentives for human creativity while providing freelancers with tools to work more efficiently and monetize their distinctive styles, positioning itself as a counterpoint to AI platforms that devalue human creative work. OpenAI's SWE-Lancer benchmark: https://openai.com/index/swe-lancer/ Upcoming Major AI Events Featuring Nathan Labenz as a Keynote Speaker https://www.imagineai.live/ https://adapta.org/adapta-summit https://itrevolution.com/product/enterprise-tech-leadership-summit-las-vegas/ SPONSORS: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle Cloud Infrastructure offers next-generation cloud solutions that cut costs and boost performance. With OCI, you can run AI projects and applications faster and more securely for less. New U.S. customers can save 50% on compute, 70% on storage, and 80% on networking by switching to OCI before May 31, 2024. See if you qualify at https://oracle.com/cognitive Shopify: Shopify powers millions of businesses worldwide, handling 10% of U.S. e-commerce. With hundreds of templates, AI tools for product descriptions, and seamless marketing campaign creation, it's like having a design studio and marketing team in one. Start your $1/month trial today at https://shopify.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing CHAPTERS: (00:00) About the Episode (06:33) Introduction and AI Wake-up Call (08:26) New Standards for Work (14:43) Freelancers vs Full-time Workers (19:12) Fiverr Marketplace Evolution (Part 1) (22:35) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Shopify (25:46) Fiverr Marketplace Evolution (Part 2) (27:10) AI Impact on Marketplace (32:46) Future Belongs to Hackers (Part 1) (42:30) Sponsors: NetSuite (43:58) Future Belongs to Hackers (Part 2) (43:58) Why People Hire Others (45:10) Philosophy Behind Fiverr Go (55:35) Changing Internet Experiences (01:00:08) Fiverr Go Product Suite (01:06:59) AI Model Compatibility Challenges (01:13:12) Future of Human Creation (01:21:43) Tasks Humans Should Delegate (01:27:24) AI Improving Market Liquidity (01:29:31) Leadership in AI Transition (01:35:04) Hiring in the AI Age (01:40:04) Optimism for the Future (01:41:08) Outro

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• Securing Superintelligence: National Security, Espionage & AI Control with Jeremie & Edouard Harris

  In this thought-provoking episode of The Cognitive Revolution, host Nathan Labenz speaks with Jeremy and Edouard Harris, founders of Gladstone AI and authors of "America's Superintelligence Project." The conversation explores a critical dilemma facing US policymakers: balancing the race to develop advanced AI ahead of China against the risks of losing control of increasingly powerful systems. Drawing from their extensive research with intelligence officials and technical experts, the Harris brothers detail the vulnerabilities in US critical infrastructure that would need to be addressed for a Manhattan Project-style AI initiative, while raising profound questions about the security compromises and centralization of power such a project would entail. Nathan offers his perspective that international cooperation might be preferable to an AI arms race, inviting listeners to consider whether humanity's shared interests might ultimately outweigh geopolitical rivalries in the development of superintelligent systems. Upcoming Major AI Events Featuring Nathan Labenz as a Keynote Speaker https://www.imagineai.live/ https://adapta.org/adapta-summit https://itrevolution.com/product/enterprise-tech-leadership-summit-las-vegas/ America’s Superintelligence Project: https://superintelligence.gladstone.ai SPONSORS: Box AI: Box AI revolutionizes content management by unlocking the potential of unstructured data. Automate document processing, extract insights, and build custom AI agents using cutting-edge models like OpenAI's GPT-4.5, Google's Gemini 2.0, and Anthropic's Cloud 3.7 Sonnet. Trusted by over 115,000 enterprises, Box AI ensures top-tier security and compliance. Visit https://box.com/ai to transform your business with intelligent content management today Shopify: Shopify powers millions of businesses worldwide, handling 10% of U.S. e-commerce. With hundreds of templates, AI tools for product descriptions, and seamless marketing campaign creation, it's like having a design studio and marketing team in one. Start your $1/month trial today at https://shopify.com/cognitive NetSuite: Over 41,000 businesses trust NetSuite by Oracle, the #1 cloud ERP, to future-proof their operations. With a unified platform for accounting, financial management, inventory, and HR, NetSuite provides real-time insights and forecasting to help you make quick, informed decisions. Whether you're earning millions or hundreds of millions, NetSuite empowers you to tackle challenges and seize opportunities. Download the free CFO's guide to AI and machine learning at https://netsuite.com/cognitive Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle Cloud Infrastructure offers next-generation cloud solutions that cut costs and boost performance. With OCI, you can run AI projects and applications faster and more securely for less. New U.S. customers can save 50% on compute, 70% on storage, and 80% on networking by switching to OCI before May 31, 2024. See if you qualify at https://oracle.com/cognitive PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing

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