Education in the AI Age: a Teacher Rethinks Learning & Purpose, w/ Johan Falk of Graspable AI
Today Johan Falk, author, speaker, and AI analyst from Stockholm, Sweden, joins The Cognitive Revolution to discuss his work reimagining education for the AI era, exploring why teaching students to use AI responsibly is now urgent, how traditional grades and standardized tests may become obsolete, and why education systems must develop unprecedented agility to prepare students for a radically uncertain future shaped by rapidly advancing AI capabilities.
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Three Purposes of Education: Education serves to supply workforce competence, foster citizenship with values, and support personal growth.
Cultural Differences in Education: Sweden emphasizes community and common good over competition compared to the US approach.
AI's Educational Impact: The fundamental purpose of education is being questioned as AI develops, especially if Universal Basic Income becomes more prevalent.
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The Customer Service Revolution: Building Fin, with Eoghan McCabe & Fergal Reid of Intercom
Today Eoghan McCabe and Fergal Reid of Intercom join The Cognitive Revolution to discuss building their AI customer service agent Fin, exploring how they achieved a 65% resolution rate through rigorous optimization and custom model training rather than relying on base model improvements, while pioneering outcome-based pricing at $0.99 per resolution.
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00) About the Episode
(03:43) Keeping Up With AI
(09:56) Evaluating Models and Evals
(13:04) Incumbents vs. Startups
(18:54) Product Risk and Judgment (Part 1)
(19:00) Sponsors: Linear | AGNTCY
(21:34) Product Risk and Judgment (Part 2)
(23:42) The Klarna Layoff Story (Part 1)
(32:11) Sponsors: Claude | Shopify
(36:13) The Klarna Layoff Story (Part 2)
(36:14) Driving Resolution Rate
(45:00) Intelligence Isn't the Bottleneck
(50:10) Closing the Automation Gap
(56:20) Human vs. AI Accuracy
(01:01:03) The Nuance of Speed
(01:04:48) Considering Paradigm Changes
(01:09:31) Outcome-Based Pricing Model
(01:19:12) Casual Hacking and Insights
(01:26:05) AI Adoption and Ambition
(01:36:00) Outro
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Training an AI Scientist with Feedback from Reality, w- Liam Fedus & Ekin Dogus Cubuk (from a16z)
Today’s special crosspost features a16z General Partner Anjney Midha with Liam Fedus and Ekin Dogus Cubuk of Periodic Labs. They discuss experiments in training frontier AI models on real-world physics lab experiments—rather than digital reward functions—and how coupling language models with automated materials synthesis could accelerate the discovery of room-temperature superconductors and transform R&D in advanced manufacturing.
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Core innovation: Periodic Labs is creating a "physically grounded reward function" by integrating experiments directly with AI systems.
Physical lab integration: Unlike traditional AI labs, Periodic includes actual physical experimentation facilities where AI can run tests in the real world.
Novel approach to training: Periodic takes pre-trained language models and further trains them on physics and chemistry knowledge to improve performance in scientific domains.
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The Machines Are Taking Our Jobs - Thank God? Emad Mostaque’s Guide to the next 1000 Days
Today, Emad Mostaque, founder of Intelligent Internet, joins The Cognitive Revolution to discuss his book "The Last Economy" and his radical "intelligence theory" framework for reimagining economics in the AI age, exploring concepts like the abundance trap, metabolic rift, and his proposed cryptocurrency-funded system of collectively-owned AI infrastructure to prevent digital feudalism and ensure AI benefits humanity rather than just capital owners.
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Stripe's Payments Foundation Model: How Data & Infra Create Compounding Advantage, w/ Emily Sands
Today, Emily Sands, head of data and AI at Stripe, joins The Cognitive Revolution to discuss how the company built a payments foundation model that processes tens of billions of transactions into dense embeddings, exploring the technical architecture behind fraud detection improvements and the modular approach that enables rapid deployment of AI across Stripe's $1.4 trillion payment network.
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Stripe's Scale: Processes $1.4 trillion annually, serving both small businesses and large enterprises (over half of Fortune 100 companies).
"Business in a Box": There's emerging potential for AI to handle end-to-end business creation, including selection of third-party tools, payment providers, and other essential services.
AI Company Partnerships: Two-thirds of the Forbes AI 50 companies already run on Stripe, as they focus on helping AI companies monetize effectively and scale globally.
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