Summation (formerly World of DaaS)

Martin Shkreli is the co-founder of DL Software, the parent company of Godel Terminal, a Bloomberg competitor for financial data. He previously founded the biotech companies Retrophin and Turing Pharmaceuticals and the hedge fund MSMB Capital Management. 
In this episode of Summation, Martin and Auren discuss:
The structural reasons fintech is less competitive than other industries
How drug discovery actually works (and doing it from prison)
Why AI labs are now out-recruiting hedge funds
What Martin learned from being "the most hated man in America"
You can find Auren Hoffman on X at @auren and Martin Shkreli on X at @MartinShkreli

World of DaaS is now Summation with Auren Hoffman. While we’re proud of our roots in the data world, our conversations have evolved. Summation better reflects our obsession with finding the non-obvious ideas that shape our world.
What’s changing? Just the name. You’ll still get the same insights from the world’s most influential founders, investors, and thinkers. 
If you’re already a subscriber, you’re all set. If you’re new here, welcome. Hit subscribe and join us! Our first episode as Summation drops this Wednesday.
Thanks for the support, and welcome to the next chapter. 
Auren is CEO of NQB8, GP at Flex Capital, Chairman of Dialog; former CEO of SafeGraph and LiveRamp (NYSE: RAMP).

Jonathan Siddharth is the founder and CEO of Turing, a $2.2 billion AI company that provides coding and reasoning data to train frontier models for OpenAI, Google, Meta, Anthropic and more. Turing’s mission is to accelerate superintelligence to drive economic growth.
In this episode of World of DaaS, Jonathan and Auren discuss:
How Turing creates expert data for frontier models
Why SaaS is dying in the age of AI agents
Disrupting the $30 trillion market for digital knowledge work
Building a stage five company culture

You can find Auren Hoffman on X at @auren and Jonathan Siddharth on X at @jonsidd.
Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com)

Cobi Blumenfeld-Gantz is the co-founder and CEO of Chapter, an AI-powered Medicare navigation platform valued at $1.5 billion that helps seniors navigate coverage and enrollment.
In this episode of World of DaaS, Cobi and Auren discuss:
Why medicare fraud costs over $100 billion annually
How 24,000 medicare plans create impossible choices for seniors
Why government tech keeps failing with Accenture contracts
Provider network data accuracy and AI solutions
You can find Auren Hoffman on X at @auren and Cobi Blumenfeld-Gantz on X at @CobiBGantz.
Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com)

Hans Swildens is a partner and Head of Industry Ventures at Goldman Sachs. Industry Ventures is one of the pioneers in the secondary market for venture capital, managing several billion in assets across LP stakes, direct secondaries, and primary fund investments. In October of 2025, Goldman Sachs announced they were acquiring Industry Ventures in a deal worth over $900 million dollars. 
In this episode of World of DaaS, Hans and Auren discuss:
The evolution of secondaries from distressed deals to 70% of VC exits 
Why Goldman Sachs paid almost $1 billion to acquire Industry Ventures 
How Industry Ventures uses data from 700+ fund LP positions as a competitive edge 
The future of venture fund structures and permanent capital vehicles

You can find Auren Hoffman on X at @auren and Hans Swildens on X at @hansswildens.
Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com)